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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:26 am

James S Saint wrote:
mr reasonable wrote:The french revolution would have never gotten off the ground in the modern US. That's because we're a better country that actually lets people compete and get rewarded for the good things they do, instead of being a country that punishes those who generate wealth by handing it all out to the do-nothings.



...your weed puffing puck ass...



I will take this as your concession.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby LaughingMan » Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:43 am

mr reasonable wrote:The french revolution would have never gotten off the ground in the modern US. That's because we're a better country that actually lets people compete and get rewarded for the good things they do, instead of being a country that punishes those who generate wealth by handing it all out to the do-nothings.


Do nothings like the banksters that your puppet and chief bailed out?

Do you even have a consistent position or beliefs that you defend?

At first you came off as a neoliberal where now you're switching tactics trying to come off as a state crony capitalist. WTF?

At least have some consistency for fuck's sake.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:02 am

I'm a real-worldist. That means that I probably seem as inconsistent to you as the real world does. Or something like that. Everyone has a position. Best way to defend it is to force the other person to have to extrapolate it from a random set of behaviors and things one might say. Once you figure it out, then you can challenge it, then you can maybe defeat or alter it in some way. But the fact remains that no one's given any argument here to show that what I've said about the poor is false. And I've presented evidence that it's their fault. So as it stands, in this debate at least it's the poor people's fault that they're poor.

Also..."my president in chief"? You're reaching with that one. I'm not all that into politics. I voted for the guy because the healthcare act would bring in subsidies that substantially reduce my student loan burden over time. It's just economics man. Same reason that's good for me, is the same reason that it's good for a homeless person to whore themselves, panhandle, stop spending money on hotels and all until they have enough capital to get into the game. Shit man, you could probably pass a bad check for a few grand and by the time they run you down plead it out and pay the money back and court costs, and if you were wise enough with the windfall then you'd still be able to turn a profit or at least stay ahead.

You can't expect hard working people to just give you a life instead of saving for their children's college so that you can waste time discovering yourself or thinking about philosophy or whatever you please. Those people gave up their time so that they could have more, and for you to want to take it instead of earning your own way is to steal thier time, their lives, and their work from them.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby iambiguous » Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:09 am

James S Saint wrote:Bigus, go back to the rant or off topic sections where you belong.


I take it then that you won't actually be responding to the point I raised. Rather, you make me the point instead. In other words, anything to keep RM and the world we actually live in as far removed as possible.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Simms » Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:09 pm

mr reasonable wrote:I'm a real-worldist. That means that I probably seem as inconsistent to you as the real world does. Or something like that. Everyone has a position. Best way to defend it is to force the other person to have to extrapolate it from a random set of behaviors and things one might say. Once you figure it out, then you can challenge it, then you can maybe defeat or alter it in some way. But the fact remains that no one's given any argument here to show that what I've said about the poor is false. And I've presented evidence that it's their fault. So as it stands, in this debate at least it's the poor people's fault that they're poor.

Also..."my president in chief"? You're reaching with that one. I'm not all that into politics. I voted for the guy because the healthcare act would bring in subsidies that substantially reduce my student loan burden over time. It's just economics man. Same reason that's good for me, is the same reason that it's good for a homeless person to whore themselves, panhandle, stop spending money on hotels and all until they have enough capital to get into the game. Shit man, you could probably pass a bad check for a few grand and by the time they run you down plead it out and pay the money back and court costs, and if you were wise enough with the windfall then you'd still be able to turn a profit or at least stay ahead.

You can't expect hard working people to just give you a life instead of saving for their children's college so that you can waste time discovering yourself or thinking about philosophy or whatever you please. Those people gave up their time so that they could have more, and for you to want to take it instead of earning your own way is to steal thier time, their lives, and their work from them.


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Re: What should we debate?

Postby LaughingMan » Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:10 pm

mr reasonable wrote:I'm a real-worldist. That means that I probably seem as inconsistent to you as the real world does. Or something like that. Everyone has a position. Best way to defend it is to force the other person to have to extrapolate it from a random set of behaviors and things one might say. Once you figure it out, then you can challenge it, then you can maybe defeat or alter it in some way. But the fact remains that no one's given any argument here to show that what I've said about the poor is false. And I've presented evidence that it's their fault. So as it stands, in this debate at least it's the poor people's fault that they're poor.

Also..."my president in chief"? You're reaching with that one. I'm not all that into politics. I voted for the guy because the healthcare act would bring in subsidies that substantially reduce my student loan burden over time. It's just economics man. Same reason that's good for me, is the same reason that it's good for a homeless person to whore themselves, panhandle, stop spending money on hotels and all until they have enough capital to get into the game. Shit man, you could probably pass a bad check for a few grand and by the time they run you down plead it out and pay the money back and court costs, and if you were wise enough with the windfall then you'd still be able to turn a profit or at least stay ahead.

You can't expect hard working people to just give you a life instead of saving for their children's college so that you can waste time discovering yourself or thinking about philosophy or whatever you please. Those people gave up their time so that they could have more, and for you to want to take it instead of earning your own way is to steal thier time, their lives, and their work from them.


Ah, I see. I know your personality type very well. The absolute opportunist that has no loyalties to anyone or anything. Probably sell your own grandmother if you were offered enough money to do it. :wink:

I very much disagree with you concerning the poor. We can debate it if you like in another thread.

The wealthy do none of their own stealing? :lol:
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Mr Reasonable » Sun Jun 08, 2014 6:24 pm

The wealthy stealing doesn't prevent the poor from stealing too does it?
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby LaughingMan » Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:28 pm

mr reasonable wrote:The wealthy stealing doesn't prevent the poor from stealing too does it?


Create the debate thread. Make your points. :D
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Mr Reasonable » Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:43 pm

I like how you said, "my personality type" instead of attacking my points.

Dude you know I'm being the devil's advocate here. And to be quite frank, you guys aren't doing too well in the name of justice.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby LaughingMan » Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:14 am

mr reasonable wrote:I like how you said, "my personality type" instead of attacking my points.

Dude you know I'm being the devil's advocate here. And to be quite frank, you guys aren't doing too well in the name of justice.


I don't believe in the concept of justice. I do believe in freedom and independence however.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Mr Reasonable » Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:46 am

Me too. I believe that I should have the freedom and independence to gather as much money as I want, which is why I'm glad I live in America. I think it's terrible though, that some people in this country want to take that freedom away from me, and reduce my independence by forcing me to pay out cash to people who refuse to earn it. I mean, if a homeless guy wants to wipe my ass and rub my feet then I wouldn't mind giving him a little something, but most of them are too egotistical to recognize their place in society and do what they should to come up. They all just want something free from someone who earned it, which is the same thing as stealing.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby LaughingMan » Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:30 am

I believe in the freedom and independence to rob or steal from the so called powerful.

I believe in the freedom and independence to burn their dwellings into the ground.

That whole knowing your place never sat well with me.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Mr Reasonable » Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:34 am

Nah man, sound like you know your place is on top. So start burning, or start whoring and you'll get there soon enough.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby LaughingMan » Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:39 am

mr reasonable wrote:Nah man, sound like you know your place is on top. So start burning, or start whoring and you'll get there soon enough.


The difference between you and me is that I have a sense of humility.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Mr Reasonable » Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:42 am

So which is it? Are you destined to burn your way to the top? Or are you humbly waiting your turn?
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby LaughingMan » Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:47 am

mr reasonable wrote:So which is it? Are you destined to burn your way to the top? Or are you humbly waiting your turn?


Oh, I will certainly burn my way to the top but I'll never forget where I came from either.

I sympathize with the unfortunate. It's the people that have everything of whom I despise that I have no problem with slaughtering.

I'm old school of a more Robinhood type perception.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Mr Reasonable » Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:54 am

Didn't robin hood bleed out?
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby LaughingMan » Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:57 am

mr reasonable wrote:Didn't robin hood bleed out?


No. He lived the rest of his days as an outlaw fucking Maid Marian.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Mr Reasonable » Mon Jun 09, 2014 6:43 pm

I think that's the new version. It used to be that he bled out. I think they changed it to trick the masses.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby LaughingMan » Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:50 am

mr reasonable wrote:I think that's the new version. It used to be that he bled out. I think they changed it to trick the masses.


Proof? I'm quite the fan of the literary Robinhood. The alleged historical one also.

At any rate, let's create a thread of debate that you so desperately want to initiate. It could be fun. :)
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Mr Reasonable » Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:03 am

I already said that I'm so in favor of deregulation that I can't even submit to the rules of debate.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Mr Reasonable » Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:03 am

You see...a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby LaughingMan » Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:05 am

mr reasonable wrote:I already said that I'm so in favor of deregulation that I can't even submit to the rules of debate.


Who said there had to be any rules?

We're both a bunch of vulgar and decadent social deviants. Like either one of us would follow rules to begin with anyways. 8)
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby Mr Reasonable » Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:06 am

Exactly.
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Re: What should we debate?

Postby LaughingMan » Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:07 am

mr reasonable wrote:https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=robin%20hood%20bled%20to%20death


Meh, there's no proof other than folklore.

The story of Robinhood's death was published in 1917. There is no concrete evidence to support any of that. :-k
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