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Re: Unite Against Racism

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:35 am

Gloominary wrote:
Concerning freedom and individual liberty and democracy, this is something which has existed in very many cultures, to exemplary degrees in Native American tribes. In fact it is thought that the first American caucuses were inspired by native tribe meetings.

That's not a fact, it's hotly contested in academia, look into it.

I recommend "1491", which overthrows a lot of what was thought by Europeans about the Americas before they arrived. As Promethean posts illustrates, it shouldnt logically be so hotly contested, as it is simply an opportunistic system that is perfectly natural except when you have extraordinary large populations. I think thats the issue here.

Democracy and freedom is largely a European thing.

The philosophical concept of it may indeed be European. So is are the concepts of Marxism, the concept of fascism, of course - a lot of concepts. But what is really practiced?
Scandinavia, the Netherlands as well as Greece are traditionally individualistic, democracy-prone.. France, Germany, Spain, Italy, are not.
Concepts like individual liberty arose in Europes great naval powers.

As for formal logic and math, while some Non-Europeans like Arabs and Hindians made major contributions to them, none more so than Europeans.

Per capita certainly, if we go by continents. But without the Arabs we would not even have the concept of zero. We wouldn't have been able to surpass the Greeks.
This was the limit to the Greek mathematical mind, they almost thad the zero on various occasions, or so my mathematical source (my father) says, but never explicitly formulated it. That in itself is probably one of the best indicators of their nature.
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Re: Unite Against Racism

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:39 pm

Fixed Cross wrote: I recommend "1491", which overthrows a lot of what was thought by Europeans about the Americas before they arrived. As Promethean posts illustrates, it shouldnt logically be so hotly contested, as it is simply an opportunistic system that is perfectly natural except when you have extraordinary large populations. I think thats the issue here.
1491 is a great book.

Much of what was first thought about NAs was based on the experience of NA communities that had already been radically devastated by the various diseases brought over. When you lose large numbers of a group, parenting gets messed up, mediation and other social mitigation practices get messed up, inter group violence and distrust increase, violence increases and so on. Then ideas about the race involved and the cultures involved are treated as timeless and objective evaluations.

Poaching elephants led to rogue young male elephants commiting all sorts of not seen before violence, both against other elephants and, get this, the raping of rhinos. IOW social mammal societies if there is a systematic set of deaths and casualties WILL lead to degeneration.

Then the racists or animal species haters can draw conclusions that, not coincidentally, make them feel better about themselves.
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Re: Unite Against Racism

Postby Fixed Cross » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:51 pm

Yes, and it is just so entirely logical.
But people who have not suffered such humiliation simply never know, and can not really be made to understand, what it does.

Very nice that you read 1491 as well. Its an amazing book, with many unthinkable scenes of beauty. Also the notion of how the prairies were created and cultivated, including that scene of a boat on the Hudson with the two banks in flames - and the invention of the wheel in South America even though they had no use for it and only used it in what look to be toys - many quite mind boggling stories.
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Re: Unite Against Racism

Postby Fixed Cross » Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:10 pm

From here:
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I always thought him [Molyneux] exorbitantly pretentious and hollow, and take offence to his claim of being a philosopher. Nonetheless I was a bit shocked to read his youtube channel has been deleted.

I then read some articles on it, and came to the discovery that the dude is actually a foul racist, and an advocate of children disowning their parents. I.e. breaking their lineage with their ancestry, i.e. killing their souls.

Read this article.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate ... n-molyneux
Below all these sickening racist quotes there is also the part about 'reclaiming your True Self from the destructive prison we know as "childhood."'

Im like Badger, to Jesse when he throws out the meth, on account his customers supposedly are going to have certain standards, yo.

Badger: what... wh- you, WHAT???


Good riddance. Id hate to be associated with a scumbag like this. And to be fair I already thought his influence was bad in 2017, when he was gloating over how the US is so far superior to Europe, how fucked Europe is compared to the US. We can see just ow accurate he was there.

But such people as him give Trump a bad name. They're just as bad as the black supremacists who now intensify racial hatred in the world.

Possibly it is a matter of time before my own work is deleted from youtube on account of not being sufficiently hateful of my ancestry, and Im not defending the owners of these sites here, I remember youtube before it was bought by google, you could actually get views if you weren't an idiot then. But still. Molyneux now laments that due to his channel having been deleted, "the worlds largest philosophical discussion ever has been silenced".... Okey. That comment alone warrants in retrospect the destruction of his channel.
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Re: Unite Against Racism

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:50 pm

Fixed cross, I hate to be the bearer of bad news:

Trump is an asshole. Of course he grabbed the pussies of 14 year olds and raped his wife, but it’s even worse.

There was a peaceful protest in front of the White House ... he decided to gas all of them! But even more, after gassing them, he crossed the street and stood in front of a church, held the Bible in his hand upside down (inverted cross) and had a photo op.

Now, I hate Christians! But I would NEVER do that shit!
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Re: Unite Against Racism

Postby promethean75 » Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:14 pm

"held the Bible in his hand upside down"

Are you sure it was upside down?

Oh snap shit just got deep, bro. That couldn't have been by accident.

The seals have been broken... the antichrist has come. But why does the antichrist have to have hair like that? Seriously, orange hair? Shirley the antichrist would be a brunette, no?
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Re: Unite Against Racism

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:24 pm

promethean75 wrote:"held the Bible in his hand upside down"

Are you sure it was upside down?

Oh snap shit just got deep, bro. That couldn't have been by accident.

The seals have been broken... the antichrist has come. But why does the antichrist have to have hair like that? Seriously, orange hair? Shirley the antichrist would be a brunette, no?


I was the Anti-Christ shithead.

Trump is just a douche. He thinks he’s profound in that way that Hollywood celebrities think they are profound by doing the circle to forefinger (the all seeing eye) while the other three fingers make 666.

If it was up to these morons, they’d all be sent to hell. I’m the one fucking being right now in existence that states, “you’re too mentally fucking retarded to be sent to hell.”

Are you really going to fuck with me?

Even the Obama administration called the presidential car, “the beast”.
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Re: Unite Against Racism

Postby Fixed Cross » Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:27 pm

Whenever two leftos get in a conversation, we are in tikki-tokki-land within a few lines thrown back and forth.
Dudes.
Get yours acts together.

On the right, you get a completely homogenized ball of dull agreement. No act to get together, it is all already together, but not in a place it wants to be.

Trump teargassed protesters who came onto the lawn of the White House threatening to kill him. Oh no, his hair is orange too. Thats literally it. Go away from politics, you lack all consciousness of reality and proportion, and all psychological and historical knowledge of Human-kind.

You are, as they say, too good for this world.
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Re: Unite Against Racism

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:47 pm

I know people need some sliver of hope.

That’s why they think the conservative and liberal agendas are opposed. That’s why they think trump is an outsider rescuer of them.

These people don’t know basic facts. These people really believe that elections in the US have mattered in the last 30 years! If trumps was selected and not elected, they’d lose all hope!

I’m here to tell you, straight forward, as long as you think these are elections where your votes are EVER counted, you are the problem, not the solution!
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Re: Unite Against Racism

Postby promethean75 » Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:54 pm

https://youtu.be/TG-3lhGrsR8

I toldja. Didn't I tell em? Tell em I told em, Ec.
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Re: Unite Against Racism

Postby Fixed Cross » Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:54 pm

Fact:
Trump is the first president ever who is not overtly backed by the other side of the aisle in times of crisis.
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Re: Unite Against Racism

Postby Fixed Cross » Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:58 pm

promethean75 wrote:https://youtu.be/TG-3lhGrsR8

I toldja. Didn't I tell em? Tell em I told em, Ec.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kAEoCHANYY
We can see the current state of play reflects his chastity.
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Re: Unite Against Racism

Postby Ecmandu » Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:01 am

Fixed Cross wrote:Fact:
Trump is the first president ever who is not overtly backed by the other side of the aisle in times of crisis.


You actually believe the drama over the facts. Presidents are selected because of the drama!

Bush: lost the electoral college but was elected by the Supreme Court on a split decision

Obama: bush 2.0 the first black president

Trump: douchebag president, lost by 2 million popular votes. (When basically nobody votes anymore)

You’re into the drama, not the facts. That’s what they want you to think!
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Re: Unite Against Racism

Postby Ecmandu » Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:13 am

Ecmandu wrote:
Fixed Cross wrote:Fact:
Trump is the first president ever who is not overtly backed by the other side of the aisle in times of crisis.


You actually believe the drama over the facts. Presidents are selected because of the drama!

Bush: lost the electoral college but was elected by the Supreme Court on a split decision

Obama: bush 2.0 the first black president

Trump: douchebag president, lost by 2 million popular votes. (When basically nobody votes anymore)

You’re into the drama, not the facts. That’s what they want you to think!


I’m going to tell you trumps ‘accomplishments’...

He deregulated US industry

He hired Supreme Court justices who will overturn roe v. Wade

He made tax loopholes for the extremely rich national law.

His only promise to the American people was to “build the wall”

Let’s think about his ONLY campaign promise!!!

When he took office, he had the ENTIRE Congress with a republican majority!! Without even trying, he could have passed to build that wall no matter how many people were pissed off - he didn’t. This means he doesn’t give a fuck about to he wall!

He claims to have 10 billion dollars! The wall only costs 5 billion!! He could have paid for the wall out of his own pocket and STILL been one of the 1000 richest people on earth!! Again, he doesn’t give a fuck!

Donald Trump has ZERO excuse for not building that wall! His ONLY campaign promise (besides sending Hilary to prison for life). LOL
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Re: Unite Against Racism

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:56 am

Dude you are losing it again.

I don't share your values. Don't yell at me presuming I do.

From where I stand I see a helplessly ill informed American, which is quite typically what Americans are as seen from these more ancient civilizations, yelling incoherently about their own leader, completely disregarding most of the elemental facts on the ground. Have you been paying attention to the progress of the wall? I don't think so. Fuck your wall though, what kind of silly subject is that when Im talking about restoration of contents.

Do you know there is a continent called Asia, and one called Africa, and one called Europe?
Brother, did you know this before?
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Re: Unite Against Racism

Postby Ecmandu » Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:10 am

Fixed Cross wrote:Dude you are losing it again.

I don't share your values. Don't yell at me presuming I do.

From where I stand I see a helplessly ill informed American, which is quite typically what Americans are as seen from these more ancient civilizations, yelling incoherently about their own leader, completely disregarding most of the elemental facts on the ground.

You don't listen to anything I say, at all. You are completely oblivious of the fact that you might be able to learn things in a conversation.
The world is larger than the US.


Do you disagree with me about his only campaign promise?

I have much, much higher security clearance than trump in the spirit world.

I actually don’t give a fuck whether “the wall” is built or not! What I do care about is Trumps integrity!

He lost that for the American people.

I know what his briefings look like. I know all the secret shit that’s dumped on him when he enters office.

The question is not about (in global enonomics) trump has to backpedal. Of course he does.

The question is about his absurd promises and rhetoric that aren’t related to those briefings.

From my perspective, the human world is very small. But, I do dislike “leaders” (and I hate every US president btw) who make promises that they can keep, that cause no problem - when they can keep those promises for sure! - and refuse to do it!
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Re: Unite Against Racism

Postby perpetualburn » Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:14 am

Fixed Cross wrote:From here:
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=195835

I always thought him [Molyneux] exorbitantly pretentious and hollow, and take offence to his claim of being a philosopher. Nonetheless I was a bit shocked to read his youtube channel has been deleted.

I then read some articles on it, and came to the discovery that the dude is actually a foul racist, and an advocate of children disowning their parents. I.e. breaking their lineage with their ancestry, i.e. killing their souls.

Read this article.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate ... n-molyneux
Below all these sickening racist quotes there is also the part about 'reclaiming your True Self from the destructive prison we know as "childhood."'

Im like Badger, to Jesse when he throws out the meth, on account his customers supposedly are going to have certain standards, yo.

Badger: what... wh- you, WHAT???


Good riddance. Id hate to be associated with a scumbag like this. And to be fair I already thought his influence was bad in 2017, when he was gloating over how the US is so far superior to Europe, how fucked Europe is compared to the US. We can see just ow accurate he was there.

But such people as him give Trump a bad name. They're just as bad as the black supremacists who now intensify racial hatred in the world.

Possibly it is a matter of time before my own work is deleted from youtube on account of not being sufficiently hateful of my ancestry, and Im not defending the owners of these sites here, I remember youtube before it was bought by google, you could actually get views if you weren't an idiot then. But still. Molyneux now laments that due to his channel having been deleted, "the worlds largest philosophical discussion ever has been silenced".... Okey. That comment alone warrants in retrospect the destruction of his channel.


Whatever of you think of Molyneux, this is digital book burning plain and simple. Also, the SPLC along with the ADL are literal pond scum (their resentment towards everything Aryan(the real kind) is masked in this patronizing "educational," mother-hen anti-racism...Which is essentially the state of nearly all public education now...the mind rape of children under self appointed moral tyrants that don't possess even a flick of creativity)... The idea that Molyneux is "dangerous" so his content needs to be removed lest he lead impressionable children and young adults astray is laughable...

I never thought in a million years I would need to make sure I had digital and hard copies of Nietzsche... But who knows now... Nietzsche is TRULY dangerous and truly radical... It's only a matter time before they realize this and go after him... They're just taking out the easy targets right now...I always found it odd how the Germans in WW2 burned all these books (that aren't dangerous at all) but left Nietzsche and Shakespeare alone (as if any serious, state funded look into these guys to help advance the dream of the thousand-year Reich wasn't going to cause some serious internal conflict)...They're not going to make the same mistake twice.

Trump really needs to win in November if only to buy us a little more time. Fuck, I haven't got to visit Europe yet and now these assholes are intent on plunging the world into chaos as quickly as possible.
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Re: Unite Against Racism

Postby Ecmandu » Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:35 am

Trump has done the standard “clock in, clock out” with the US economy, and the economy (even with Covid) has done great! Any US president would do that though.

Trump cut the CDC, EPA and the NIH to basically skeleton status.

Trump doesn’t understand national security.

These organizations are not a “liberal conspiracy”. They are vital to national security.
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Re: Unite Against Racism

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:16 am

Ecmandu wrote:Any US president would do that though.

Strongly disagree, Trump is a businessman before President. The economy would be in shambles if it were anybody else.
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Re: Unite Against Racism

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:18 am

Concerning Philosophy and censorship, we are quickly devolving and delving into a new Dark Age. Copy, backlog, and safely store all philosophical content, before it is banned and burned.

The Inquisition has already arrived (Far-Left-Liberal Morality Police, "Anti-Fascist" Facists, "cancel culture", meaning, cancel all free-thought, expression, creativity, art, comedy, etc.)
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Re: Unite Against Racism

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:19 am

We are Philosophers. We have seen this before in history, across the centuries, many times. It comes, and it goes.

They can take our books, but they cannot take our memories (yet). The enemies to Free Thought and Philosophy are spawning.
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Re: Unite Against Racism

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:42 pm

Ecmandu wrote:
Fixed Cross wrote:Dude you are losing it again.

I don't share your values. Don't yell at me presuming I do.

From where I stand I see a helplessly ill informed American, which is quite typically what Americans are as seen from these more ancient civilizations, yelling incoherently about their own leader, completely disregarding most of the elemental facts on the ground.

You don't listen to anything I say, at all. You are completely oblivious of the fact that you might be able to learn things in a conversation.
The world is larger than the US.


Do you disagree with me about his only campaign promise?

I have much, much higher security clearance than trump in the spirit world.

I actually don’t give a fuck whether “the wall” is built or not! What I do care about is Trumps integrity!

He lost that for the American people.

I know what his briefings look like. I know all the secret shit that’s dumped on him when he enters office.

The question is not about (in global enonomics) trump has to backpedal. Of course he does.

The question is about his absurd promises and rhetoric that aren’t related to those briefings.

From my perspective, the human world is very small. But, I do dislike “leaders” (and I hate every US president btw) who make promises that they can keep, that cause no problem - when they can keep those promises for sure! - and refuse to do it!


I am privy to a lot of info you don't seem to have. Trump saved us all, literally.
I love him.
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Re: Unite Against Racism

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:51 pm

perpetualburn wrote:Whatever of you think of Molyneux, this is digital book burning plain and simple. Also, the SPLC along with the ADL are literal pond scum (their resentment towards everything Aryan(the real kind) is masked in this patronizing "educational," mother-hen anti-racism...Which is essentially the state of nearly all public education now...the mind rape of children under self appointed moral tyrants that don't possess even a flick of creativity)... The idea that Molyneux is "dangerous" so his content needs to be removed lest he lead impressionable children and young adults astray is laughable...

I never thought in a million years I would need to make sure I had digital and hard copies of Nietzsche... But who knows now... Nietzsche is TRULY dangerous and truly radical... It's only a matter time before they realize this and go after him... They're just taking out the easy targets right now...I always found it odd how the Germans in WW2 burned all these books (that aren't dangerous at all) but left Nietzsche and Shakespeare alone (as if any serious, state funded look into these guys to help advance the dream of the thousand-year Reich wasn't going to cause some serious internal conflict)...They're not going to make the same mistake twice.

Trump really needs to win in November if only to buy us a little more time. Fuck, I haven't got to visit Europe yet and now these assholes are intent on plunging the world into chaos as quickly as possible.

Wait, dude, are you comparing Molyneux to Nietzsche??
You cant be serious.

Molyneux is an atrocity, a vile insult to the name of philosophy. I could never stand the man for a second, so pompous, dumb, empty and completely ignorant of philosophy as he is -- claiming to be the Great White Hope -- absolutely contemptible, sad little man.
Youtube is a private company so it can delete channels as it pleases, it has nothing to do with book burning.
Of course you need hard copies of Nietzsche, and of all authors you value. Whoever thought online content was going to cut it deserves to be rid of all his books. That is such a naive presumption.

Don't get me wrong, I have been sick about the depravity of the left for decades, and Ive suffered of it personally more than probably anyone here. But that doesn't mean I stoop so low as to appreciate Molyneux, or mourn the fact that left-wing black racist owned youtube deletes the largest right-wing white racist community on it. Who fucking cares. No one has ever become better by listening to to Molyneux, I am sure of that.

You probably paid Molyneux the greatest compliment he has ever had by suggesting he has anything to do with Nietzsche. But he doesn't. Nietzsche was a good writer, Nietzsche was no racist, he was not a hollow windbag, he wasn't a person who bragged about how popular he was with the masses - its like you're comparing Sophocles to Doctor Phil.

And yeah, obviously we want Trump to be re-elected. Though there would be a morbid humour to seeing the US elect a heavily demented guy just in order to avoid having to look at unfashionable hair. That would be fitting in a sense to the flitty, slutty country that it is for such a large part, but fuck, 4 more years of Trump would rock.
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Re: Unite Against Racism

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:24 pm

Perpetual, true Pagans are never truly racist.

Why is that, well because race is far too broad, too easy.

No one who is born with blue eyes needs to make an effort to maintain his blue eyes. But someone who worships Odin must, will, desires to sacrifice very much of his time and energy to Odin on a daily basis.

Molyneux could never be a pagan. He is too self-smirky, satisfied, popularist -- for the gods sakes, he even disavowed his own parents and advocates that all must do so -- the very opposite of ancestor-worship, which is the ground to paganism.

Come to think of it, that parent-hatred is actually a typically leftist trait.
Yeah. The dude was a Marxist posing as one of us. Fuck him and all his fans.
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Re: Unite Against Racism

Postby perpetualburn » Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:12 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:Wait, dude, are you comparing Molyneux to Nietzsche??
You cant be serious.


You probably paid Molyneux the greatest compliment he has ever had by suggesting he has anything to do with Nietzsche. But he doesn't. Nietzsche was a good writer, Nietzsche was no racist, he was not a hollow windbag, he wasn't a person who bragged about how popular he was with the masses - its like you're comparing Sophocles to Doctor Phil.


I don't know how you got that from what I wrote... Never did i say they were comparable (the only one close to Nietzsche is Shakespeare or maybe the only one close to Shakespeare is Nietzsche)... I was drawing a comparison to how the Nazi's similarly would burn books of people who really don't pose a threat like Molyneux doesn't... But would leave a real threat like NIetzsche untouched...and how that would probably backfire on them...A serious, state funded look into Nietzsche would probably cause the German Reich to short circuit.

Molyneux is an atrocity, a vile insult to the name of philosophy. I could never stand the man for a second, so pompous, dumb, empty and completely ignorant of philosophy as he is -- claiming to be the Great White Hope -- absolutely contemptible, sad little man.
Youtube is a private company so it can delete channels as it pleases, it has nothing to do with book burning.
Of course you need hard copies of Nietzsche, and of all authors you value. Whoever thought online content was going to cut it deserves to be rid of all his books. That is such a naive presumption.


We'll have to disagree... I do consider it book burning when all these "private" companies have a wide scale monopoly on the flow of information. They're basically setting the tone for what is and isn't morally acceptable on a large scale. The lines between the public and private sector have been completely blurred. Their degenerate propaganda has reached every nook and cranny of federal, state, and local government. This determines how laws are written and enforced. Although I do find it sort of funny how the same cops who were all gung-ho to enforce these unconstitutional corona mandates are now under attack by their liberal masters.

And yeah, obviously we want Trump to be re-elected. Though there would be a morbid humour to seeing the US elect a heavily demented guy just in order to avoid having to look at unfashionable hair. That would be fitting in a sense to the flitty, slutty country that it is for such a large part, but fuck, 4 more years of Trump would rock.


Trump simply buys us four more years (in the U.S. anyways) to get our houses in order. What happens after that? The left keep accelerating at a startling rate... they are literally pushing for war while crying victim...

As an aside.. I don't even know why these BLM riots are happening in Europe (you guys don't have the same racial problems the US has)...In the UK they rallied en mass like mental patients for one guy killed by the cops in America...but never raised a similar outcry for the industrial scale rape of over 10,000 underage, working class white girls by a bunch of morally depraved Pakistanis.
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