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Journalistic "Truth"

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:07 pm



For a long time in USA, we have enjoyed a "Free Press" that was relatively neutral and 'objective'.

Fast-forward to 2001, 2006, 2008, and to today. During the last twenty years, the Mass Media (Journalism) has moved from journalistic "objective-facts", simply reporting stories, and moved to 'bias', 'op-ed', and Political Sway. Thus they shifted from telling "the truth" and into "their own truth". Nowadays, Journalism is all-but-dead. Youtube is a source of news-objectivity. Other venues, forums, individual blogs and posters, etc. have become the prominent, popular, and persuasive venues. Why go to a corrupt, bias'd mass media network, when you can go straight to the sources? Why do we need a third-party telling us what happens, when we can go straight to the first-person testimony on youtube? I don't need third-party Opinions, when we can go and see the direct footage ourselves.

Thus who were previously "Journalists" have become lobbyists and social-justice-warriors. The Mass Media, in their last-ditched vain attempt to keep and retain power, have switched from "telling truth" to dictating truth. Politically, this has erupted into a battle between President Trump, Neo-Conservatives, Republicans, etc. who have largely had to cowtow and grovel to the Mass Media, paying undue respect. It's obvious now, then, that the news and mass media are largely "liberal-left-biased". So this bias is being combated, by Politics and Politicians, arriving to the link above.


Here are some questions, hypothetical of course:

1. To what degree of severity is the Mass Media Industry allowed, to slander, demean, lie, and personally attack political opponents, before 'Libel' can be met and charged?

2. To what degree do you have the Freedom to Speak, but Freedom to Lie?

3. Can you Lie so well, so hard, and so much that it destroys political opponents, can destroy people's lives, but you are "Constitutionally Protected" to do so?

4. To what degree will USA, Western Civilization and Culture allow this lying to go? Is Power in the hands of the Mass Media conglomerate, Youtube individual bloggers (Mark Dice etc), The Supreme Court, the Presidency, Lobbyists, Mass-Opinion and Mob Rule?
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Re: Journalistic "Truth"

Postby Ecmandu » Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:48 am

You do realize that Fox News changed everything in 2001?

Someone sued Fox News for calling things “news”, when it could be proven to be false... this case went all the way to the Supreme Court ... the decision?

You don’t have to report facts to call it news!

Fox News will in future generations be known as the collapse of human culture and society.

Assuming we have humans then, also assuming we don’t live in the Orwell book 1984 into perpetuity !
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Re: Journalistic "Truth"

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:51 am

Fox is what would have been considered "normal" in 1980 and 1990.

Everybody else has gone off the deep-end.
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Re: Journalistic "Truth"

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:06 am

Challenge to Ecmandu:



Find one falsity in this video. Just one, go ahead. I want to hear what's so fraudulent about this piece.
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Re: Journalistic "Truth"

Postby Sociocraft » Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:31 pm

Sounds like candidate Bernie is a globalist, but there's only one way to find out who president Bernie will be, and that's to elect him.
Candidate Donald was a nationalist, but president Donald is a lukewarm, middle of the road, quasi-nationalist, like Obama, Bush, Clinton and Reagan before him.
Too bad Bernie flipflopped on border and gun control, I like his strictly economic policies.

Anyway, Tucker got at least one thing wrong, Bernie is a social democrat, not a democratic socialist.

I guess you can't be a social democrat without being a globalist in diverse, 21st century America, you need those black, Latino and middle class white women or whatever votes.
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Re: Journalistic "Truth"

Postby Ecmandu » Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:43 pm

Urwrongx1000 wrote:Challenge to Ecmandu:



Find one falsity in this video. Just one, go ahead. I want to hear what's so fraudulent about this piece.


Aggression through omission!

The BIGGEST problem that the United States has is that all votes are COUNTED through machines that have modems and can be hacked!

Our biggest problem to this regard is not foreign governments! It’s our own government hacking our own elections!

I hate trump, I hate sanders!

Seriously, vote me for your next president. I’m incorruptible and I’ll make sure that people are 100% positive that their votes count!
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Re: Journalistic "Truth"

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:12 pm

So... no counter-argument? Thought so
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Re: Journalistic "Truth"

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:15 pm

Using news outlets to offer narratives convenient to the authorities is a game as old as the first news outlet.

Old Chomsker goes into the hows and whens of the game as it was organized around the invention of the printing press, when newspapers came into being.

The strong do what they can, the weak accept what they must.
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Re: Journalistic "Truth"

Postby Ecmandu » Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:47 pm

Urwrongx1000 wrote:So... no counter-argument? Thought so


Sorry, I forgot to say outright that the biggest story in the United States for the last 30 years isn’t being covered by any news outlet. I figured that you’d infer that.
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