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Re: Dutch Divorce Rate Skyrockets In Response To Alimony Ref

Postby Zero_Sum » Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:03 pm

Gloominary wrote:
Gloominary wrote:Alimony and no-fault divorce make things really easy for women.
A lot of women will marry or cohabit with a working or lower middle class guy for a while.
They may even have a kid or two of, his (we hope).
Then, if he's failing to move up the socioeconomic ladder or if he's just not physically attractive or charming enough and she's got looks and charm, she'll dump him, take much or most of what he has, raising her socioeconomic status in the process, and try to go after a middle or upperclass guy.
She may even date the middle or upperclass guy while she's still with the working or lower middle class guy before moving in with and marrying him.
The working or lower middle class shmuck will pay spousal (and child) support for years while she gets to enjoy a higher standard of living on top of it.
She may even try to raise her status in this way a third or fourth time, why not?
Let's face it, the system is rigged in favor of women, caters to their most ignoble instincts, and they wouldn't be able to rig it without the gullibility and naivete of men, and the twin ideologies of feminism and chivalry.

And to top it off, women have the audacity and nerve to call this, oppression. :lol:

And millions of soy boys and white knights believe it. :o

Unbelievable :-?

Of course some of them are just playing along, and that's part of how men play women.

Women and men play each other, but men don't have the system behind them.


In the history of humanity men will say or do anything to acquire pussy, a known fact. Hence all the soyboys and white knights nowadays. I just can't stoop myself to that level, when I eventually do acquire myself a trophy wife [fulltime professional hired prostitute for cash money] to breed with it will be on my terms, not theirs.

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Re: Dutch Divorce Rate Skyrockets In Response To Alimony Ref

Postby Zero_Sum » Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:10 pm

I normally don't like colored people's music, however in the eternal words of Tina Turner, "What's love got to do with it"?!

She knew..... 8)

Today's music doesn't convey that type of honesty anymore.

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Re: Dutch Divorce Rate Skyrockets In Response To Alimony Ref

Postby Gloominary » Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:14 pm

Zero_Sum wrote:
Gloominary wrote:Alimony and no-fault divorce make things really easy for women.
A lot of women will marry or cohabit with a lower middle class guy for a while.
They may even have a kid or two of, his (we hope).
Then, if he's failing to move up the socioeconomic ladder or if he's just not physically attractive or charming enough and she's got looks and charm, she'll dump him, take much or most of what he has, raising her socioeconomic status in the process, and try to go after a middle or upperclass guy.
She may even date the middle or upperclass guy while she's still with the lower middle class guy before moving in with and marrying him.
The lower middle class shmuck will pay spousal (and child) support for years while she gets to enjoy a higher standard of living on top of it.
She may even try to raise her status in this way a third or fourth time, why not?
Let's face it, the system is rigged in favor of women, caters to their most ignoble instincts, and they wouldn't be able to rig it without the gullibility and naivete of men, and the twin ideologies of feminism and chivalry.


There's only one way to change things and your democracy isn't the answer Gloominary.

One of these days you'll see things my way, that I'm certain of. Give it time 8)

You're probably right, but I hope you're wrong, because a rightwing dictatorship would disempower us in many ways, but of course empower us in others.
It's a trade off.
If we can't have illiberal democracy, then I'll go for autocracy.
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Re: Dutch Divorce Rate Skyrockets In Response To Alimony Ref

Postby Zero_Sum » Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:20 pm

Gloominary wrote:
Zero_Sum wrote:
Gloominary wrote:Alimony and no-fault divorce make things really easy for women.
A lot of women will marry or cohabit with a lower middle class guy for a while.
They may even have a kid or two of, his (we hope).
Then, if he's failing to move up the socioeconomic ladder or if he's just not physically attractive or charming enough and she's got looks and charm, she'll dump him, take much or most of what he has, raising her socioeconomic status in the process, and try to go after a middle or upperclass guy.
She may even date the middle or upperclass guy while she's still with the lower middle class guy before moving in with and marrying him.
The lower middle class shmuck will pay spousal (and child) support for years while she gets to enjoy a higher standard of living on top of it.
She may even try to raise her status in this way a third or fourth time, why not?
Let's face it, the system is rigged in favor of women, caters to their most ignoble instincts, and they wouldn't be able to rig it without the gullibility and naivete of men, and the twin ideologies of feminism and chivalry.


There's only one way to change things and your democracy isn't the answer Gloominary.

One of these days you'll see things my way, that I'm certain of. Give it time 8)

You're probably right, but I hope you're wrong, because a rightwing dictatorship would disempower us in many ways, but of course empower us in others.
It's a trade off.
If we can't have illiberal democracy, then I'll go for autocracy.


You will come to see my way of things soon enough my dark sith apprentice. 8)

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Re: Dutch Divorce Rate Skyrockets In Response To Alimony Ref

Postby Gloominary » Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:20 pm

Zero_Sum wrote:
Gloominary wrote:
Gloominary wrote:Alimony and no-fault divorce make things really easy for women.
A lot of women will marry or cohabit with a working or lower middle class guy for a while.
They may even have a kid or two of, his (we hope).
Then, if he's failing to move up the socioeconomic ladder or if he's just not physically attractive or charming enough and she's got looks and charm, she'll dump him, take much or most of what he has, raising her socioeconomic status in the process, and try to go after a middle or upperclass guy.
She may even date the middle or upperclass guy while she's still with the working or lower middle class guy before moving in with and marrying him.
The working or lower middle class shmuck will pay spousal (and child) support for years while she gets to enjoy a higher standard of living on top of it.
She may even try to raise her status in this way a third or fourth time, why not?
Let's face it, the system is rigged in favor of women, caters to their most ignoble instincts, and they wouldn't be able to rig it without the gullibility and naivete of men, and the twin ideologies of feminism and chivalry.

And to top it off, women have the audacity and nerve to call this, oppression. :lol:

And millions of soy boys and white knights believe it. :o

Unbelievable :-?

Of course some of them are just playing along, and that's part of how men play women.

Women and men play each other, but men don't have the system behind them.


In the history of humanity men will say or do anything to acquire pussy, a known fact. Hence all the soyboys and white knights nowadays. I just can't stoop myself to that level, when I eventually do acquire myself a trophy wife [fulltime professional hired prostitute for cash money] to breed with it will be on my terms, not theirs.

8)

It's unfortunate men would rather compete than organize for their interests.
Everyone else is organized for their interests except white men, but sooner or later that'll change.
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Re: Dutch Divorce Rate Skyrockets In Response To Alimony Ref

Postby Zero_Sum » Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:26 pm

Gloominary wrote:It's unfortunate men would rather compete than organize for their interests.
Everyone else is organized for their interests except white men, but sooner or later that'll change.


The inevitable collapse of nations, societies, and civilizations throughout the west basically will achieve that.
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Re: Dutch Divorce Rate Skyrockets In Response To Alimony Ref

Postby Gloominary » Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:37 pm

Zero_Sum wrote:You will come to see my way of things soon enough my dark sith apprentice. 8)


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Re: Dutch Divorce Rate Skyrockets In Response To Alimony Ref

Postby Gloominary » Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:40 pm

Zero_Sum wrote:
Gloominary wrote:It's unfortunate men would rather compete than organize for their interests.
Everyone else is organized for their interests except white men, but sooner or later that'll change.


The inevitable collapse of nations, societies, and civilizations throughout the west basically will achieve that.

I agree, within every tragedy lies some opportunity.
White men had it pretty good for a while.
Things will have to get pretty bad before there's a backlash.
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Re: Dutch Divorce Rate Skyrockets In Response To Alimony Ref

Postby Gloominary » Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:50 pm

The feminists, plutocrats and progressives won't stop, they just keep pushing and pushing.
Something's gotta give sooner or later.
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Re: Dutch Divorce Rate Skyrockets In Response To Alimony Ref

Postby Zero_Sum » Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:57 pm

Gloominary wrote:
Zero_Sum wrote:
Gloominary wrote:It's unfortunate men would rather compete than organize for their interests.
Everyone else is organized for their interests except white men, but sooner or later that'll change.


The inevitable collapse of nations, societies, and civilizations throughout the west basically will achieve that.

I agree, within every tragedy lies some opportunity.
White men had it pretty good for a while.
Things will have to get pretty bad before there's a backlash.


Very soon it will arrive. 8)
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Re: Dutch Divorce Rate Skyrockets In Response To Alimony Ref

Postby Zero_Sum » Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:58 pm

Gloominary wrote:The feminists, plutocrats and progressives won't stop, they just keep pushing and pushing.
Something's gotta give sooner or later.


Their insane ideology and rhetoric will be swept away with total economic collapse. 8)
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Re: Dutch Divorce Rate Skyrockets In Response To Alimony Ref

Postby Kriswest » Tue Dec 17, 2019 8:23 pm

You two sound like crybabies supporting each other. Stop watching the media lies about females. I am not a feminist nor do I belong to any political party or religion. I am just an average female. Average women do not behave or manipulate like you think they do. We only want true partners in life that will stand side by side through all times. Yes there are slimy scum females out there, there are subservient ignorant females and egotistical pain in the ass manipulative females out there. There are equal number of male counterparts to those.
The media focuses on those above females. They are “news worthy”. “News worthy” is gossip. And you two believe what they want you to see.
Have you ever been friends with a true honorable female? Or do you just see females as something to stick your penis in and only look for the slut or hot babe?
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Re: Dutch Divorce Rate Skyrockets In Response To Alimony Ref

Postby Ecmandu » Tue Dec 17, 2019 8:26 pm

Kriswest,

You just admitted to hypergamy. Not doing well for your cause - just sayin’
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Re: Dutch Divorce Rate Skyrockets In Response To Alimony Ref

Postby Kriswest » Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:42 pm

Ecmandu wrote:Kriswest,

You just admitted to hypergamy. Not doing well for your cause - just sayin’

Dude did you read what I wrote fully or did you just see what appeals to you? I do recall you have that habit.
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Re: Dutch Divorce Rate Skyrockets In Response To Alimony Ref

Postby Ecmandu » Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:48 pm

Kriswest wrote:
Ecmandu wrote:Kriswest,

You just admitted to hypergamy. Not doing well for your cause - just sayin’

Dude did you read what I wrote fully or did you just see what appeals to you? I do recall you have that habit.


Kriswest: we only want true partners in life that will stand side by side through all times

Ecmandu: *cough* hypergamy

If you’re being a shithead, you should expect shit... no woman is a fucking princess...

But you, as a stereotype embodied, actually think you are.

Why do the men post so much better than the women on these boards ... it’s actually really sad, because even the men have really low bars here
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Re: Dutch Divorce Rate Skyrockets In Response To Alimony Ref

Postby Kriswest » Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:37 pm

Do you even understand the definition of that word??
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Re: Dutch Divorce Rate Skyrockets In Response To Alimony Ref

Postby Ecmandu » Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:39 pm

Kriswest wrote:Do you even understand the definition of that word??


Yes. It means that I hate you unless you sell your soul to me no matter what I say or do

Do you?
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Re: Dutch Divorce Rate Skyrockets In Response To Alimony Ref

Postby Kriswest » Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:52 am

Webster dictionary:
Definition of hypergamy
: marriage into an equal or higher caste or social group

Now how do you get the specific quote that you pointed out into that definition? I do hope you don’t hurt yourself by twisting too much.
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Re: Dutch Divorce Rate Skyrockets In Response To Alimony Ref

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:49 pm

Kriswest wrote:Webster dictionary:
Definition of hypergamy
: marriage into an equal or higher caste or social group

Now how do you get the specific quote that you pointed out into that definition? I do hope you don’t hurt yourself by twisting too much.


Hmm... I’ll admit I was wrong.

Gamy is obviously marriage and hyper is “pinnacle of intensity”

I simply assumed when reading the word that it meant “super-monogamous inclinations and demands”

I actually think the dictionary definition doesn’t explain the root at all. You can see how it’s confusing, because in my definition, though different than the dictionary, actually also fits contextually how people use it. The mistake is easy to make I suppose.
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Re: Dutch Divorce Rate Skyrockets In Response To Alimony Ref

Postby Kriswest » Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:57 pm

Ain’t English fun? I appreciate what you said. Humans are more and more partnering for love. Yes there are still too many that bond for other reasons. Religion, politics, status and of course the most corrupt, sexual lust.
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Re: Dutch Divorce Rate Skyrockets In Response To Alimony Ref

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:45 pm

Kriswest wrote:Ain’t English fun? I appreciate what you said. Humans are more and more partnering for love. Yes there are still too many that bond for other reasons. Religion, politics, status and of course the most corrupt, sexual lust.


Well... let’s not go too far with that!

You need lust to be compelled towards sex. Asexuals can have plenty of love, but because they were born with zero lust, have no sex whatsoever.

Asexuals have a very high suicide rate because of implicit shaming.
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Re: Dutch Divorce Rate Skyrockets In Response To Alimony Ref

Postby Kriswest » Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:40 pm

Let me clarify. I am not saying zero lust. Just that lust corrupts. Think about all the horny cheaters. Too much lust, too much ego about lust, or just addicted to orgasms. Sexuality is necessary but, it can be highly corrupted and cause corruption.
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Re: Dutch Divorce Rate Skyrockets In Response To Alimony Ref

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:53 pm

Kriswest wrote:Let me clarify. I am not saying zero lust. Just that lust corrupts. Think about all the horny cheaters. Too much lust, too much ego about lust, or just addicted to orgasms. Sexuality is necessary but, it can be highly corrupted and cause corruption.


“Cheaters” is a sexual concept about people as sexual property. Remember how I thought hypergamy was defined? “Super-monogamous inclinations and demands”
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Re: Dutch Divorce Rate Skyrockets In Response To Alimony Ref

Postby Kriswest » Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:58 pm

But, you do not apply breeding to it nor do you apply inate pack/herd instincts. Breeding is an instinct involved with pack/herd. As humans evolved there became a necessity to change. Consider the small groups of humans at the beginning. Would incest have been a true issue or understood?
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Re: Dutch Divorce Rate Skyrockets In Response To Alimony Ref

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:14 pm

Kriswest wrote:But, you do not apply breeding to it nor do you apply inate pack/herd instincts. Breeding is an instinct involved with pack/herd. As humans evolved there became a necessity to change. Consider the small groups of humans at the beginning. Would incest have been a true issue or understood?


Let’s think about what men and women want with respect to breeding.

Men want to know the offspring is theirs or not theirs.

Women don’t want to be emotionally and financially abandoned.

That’s the stereotype.

How do they really act?!

Well... men and women sleep with others. Women do it for more emotional and/or financial support.

Men do it for more offspring.

But that’s just reproduction.

People mostly have sex just because they are horny.

White people aren’t even replacing their population, and have no interest in such.

But! They want to “get off”, they want to fuck.

Mostly, people just want to fuck.

To lay down some draconian law that people shouldn’t have sexual variety in their lives sickens me personally. By the time you are an adult, it should be very simple for you to make this connection (both male and female) with others without reproducing (even if you’re in a relationship)

So really, what’s the reason of tightening the screws (pun intended) on another persons sexuality?

Women just want to fuck too. I mean a rock star a movie star or a sports star will typically sleep with over 10,000 women in a lifetime, with maybe 5 offspring. The women aren’t gold diggers, they just want the fuck. Men tend to not see women as just wanting the fuck, but mostly, that’s exactly what they want. Not the offspring or blackmail child support.
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