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Postby Zero_Sum » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:38 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:More likely you are now China.


China is trying to become the new United States worldwide [Only the communist and Asian version] in replacing the former one. Nobody in this country would ever accept Chinese rule or dominance, that much I can tell you right now.
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Postby Pedro I Rengel » Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:43 pm

Yeah they all say that.
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Postby Fixed Cross » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:32 pm

That is all well beyond China's ambitions.

They think differently, grounded in ages, their seeming arrogance is merely a deep honesty about where things are going for them, which is in the direction of playing a great part in the development of the unified world. But their assumption of their own superiority is rooted in the deeper assumption of plurality. They arent "Chinocentric" in the narcissistic sense, their plan isn't to usurp the whole planet and make it speak Chinese. This wouldn't be in their interest. Their interest namely is to be China in a world of nations, and be thereby the greatest among many. They aren't monolithic - appearances to that effect are distortions in the vision of what is actually our own power expanding.
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Postby Fixed Cross » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:35 pm

The Chinese Communist party does not advocate transgenderism, for example.
By our standards its social ethics would satisfy the Christian right and Silicon Valley, things are arranged differently there.
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Postby Fixed Cross » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:37 pm

Les put it this way: Chinas rise is not part of our decay.

This world is a body of which all these nations are part.
But does it make sense to replace all the organs of the body with a gigantic "central organ"?
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Postby Fixed Cross » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:46 pm

We as West tried to control the whole planet as far as we could which is a lofty effort, the big leap for mankind. What this did was awaken other people to the prize of global fame and renown, and now we have a very active brew of very savvy nations of eager people, a lot could be done. Right now capitalists don't know yet of the markets that are disclosed by thought about true global hedonism.

True hedonism. No escapism but rather confrontation.

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Postby Pedro I Rengel » Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:33 am

Yeah, no, I'm just saying.

If the United States fell into this hypothetical chaos, China would scoop that shit up in a minute. Maybe give a province to Russia.
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Postby Zero_Sum » Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:54 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Yeah, no, I'm just saying.

If the United States fell into this hypothetical chaos, China would scoop that shit up in a minute. Maybe give a province to Russia.


I like to think of Russia and China quarantining the United States off letting us fight it out whereby negotiating with the new government(s) afterwards. 8)

I don't think either nation is crazy enough in wanting to inherit the social, political, and economic problems of the United States before or after its demise.
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Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:37 am

That's another thing they all say.
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Postby Fixed Cross » Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:01 am

Zero_Sum wrote:
Pedro I Rengel wrote:Yeah, no, I'm just saying.

If the United States fell into this hypothetical chaos, China would scoop that shit up in a minute. Maybe give a province to Russia.


I like to think of Russia and China quarantining the United States off letting us fight it out whereby negotiating with the new government(s) afterwards. 8)

I don't think either nation is crazy enough in wanting to inherit the social, political, and economic problems of the United States before or after its demise.

That would be favourable, as the US would be forced to entertain only business interests in its own continent, America, and this would be completely sufficient to any needs a superpower has. Europe would lose its vassal status and would come to terms with Russia which is part of Europe after all, and China would have to throw itself on Africa. Which would then become a contested thing and Europe would intervene to secure its own access there, and Africa would become a coveted place.
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Postby Zero_Sum » Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:57 am

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Pedro I Rengel wrote:Yeah, no, I'm just saying.

If the United States fell into this hypothetical chaos, China would scoop that shit up in a minute. Maybe give a province to Russia.


I like to think of Russia and China quarantining the United States off letting us fight it out whereby negotiating with the new government(s) afterwards. 8)

I don't think either nation is crazy enough in wanting to inherit the social, political, and economic problems of the United States before or after its demise.

That would be favourable, as the US would be forced to entertain only business interests in its own continent, America, and this would be completely sufficient to any needs a superpower has. Europe would lose its vassal status and would come to terms with Russia which is part of Europe after all, and China would have to throw itself on Africa. Which would then become a contested thing and Europe would intervene to secure its own access there, and Africa would become a coveted place.


European bilateral trade relations with Russia in access to Chinese international markets. [However Europe might face its own civil wars.]

Meanwhile the next fifty years consists of civil war within the United States which will ultimately split apart into six or seven new nations via Yugoslavia on a much greater scale. 8)

Russians and Chinese don't intervene other than watching from all three coasts. If the U.N. or any nation intervenes in the civil war they'll quickly find themselves shot at by the various factions doing the fighting amongst each other, so why bother with sacrificing the manpower or expending capital when they're content on just watching from afar? 8) They might however aid various factions they favor in the new American civil war dispute with weapons, food, medicine, or resources. [There's a neat idea.]

Unfortunately for Canada it too will end up in the crossroads of an American civil war as well as there will be spill overs into its territory or overall region, sorry Fixed Cross and Pedro. :lol:
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Re: Do you ever look at your own personal individual evoluti

Postby mannequin01 » Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:02 am

When somebody is born into a particular type seldom do they ever develop the capacity to understand, much less accept the legitimacy of other types, is it not then just a war of biological differences.
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Postby Pedro I Rengel » Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:53 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:
Zero_Sum wrote:
Pedro I Rengel wrote:Yeah, no, I'm just saying.

If the United States fell into this hypothetical chaos, China would scoop that shit up in a minute. Maybe give a province to Russia.


I like to think of Russia and China quarantining the United States off letting us fight it out whereby negotiating with the new government(s) afterwards. 8)

I don't think either nation is crazy enough in wanting to inherit the social, political, and economic problems of the United States before or after its demise.

That would be favourable, as the US would be forced to entertain only business interests in its own continent, America, and this would be completely sufficient to any needs a superpower has. Europe would lose its vassal status and would come to terms with Russia which is part of Europe after all, and China would have to throw itself on Africa. Which would then become a contested thing and Europe would intervene to secure its own access there, and Africa would become a coveted place.


The problem is: we don't fucking trust you all.

You can pry our forward missile defense systems from our cold, dead hands.
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Postby Pedro I Rengel » Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:55 pm

Omg if civil war in Canada...

But again, China.

The only way to avoid them would be on the fringes, the vast expanse of forest. Which would in the end be absolutely no different from your own decade of poverty. Be the exact same thing.
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Postby MagsJ » Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:59 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:The problem is: we don't fucking trust you all.

You can pry our forward missile defense systems from our cold, dead hands.

Shits getting deep yo!

Who do we trust, in these here post-modern cold-war-entrenched current climes? Check mate, stale mate..?
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Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:14 am

No, it's not a stale mate. It's not a checkmate either. That's another thing: checkmate, we all lose.
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Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:15 am

Gorbachev's genious is yet to be fully understood.
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Postby Fixed Cross » Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:37 am

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Gorbachev's genious is yet to be fully understood.

Yeah, he was a great chemist.
He dissolved the frozen will to power of the stalling USSR into a fermenting pool of capitalism, from which such perfect chaos of opportunism arose between all the factions that it would take thoroughly Russian mind to find a way to control it. Someone would have to come who understands all facets of Russian power. A "scholar" - like Kissinger in your scheme, but in domestic politics, which in Russia are more like foreign politics sometimes.
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Postby Fixed Cross » Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:47 am

I imagine you get a general migration flow across the whole continent to the North, leading to the population of Greenland. Maybe Churchill at the Hudson will finally see some action. Lets buy a plot of land there and start a casino.

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Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:52 am

Let's buy a plot of land there and start a casino anyway.
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Postby Fixed Cross » Sat Nov 23, 2019 3:05 am

Well yeah I was thinking, auxiliary plan for when you need to get on top of things quickly.
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Postby MagsJ » Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:40 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:No, it's not a stale mate. It's not a checkmate either. That's another thing: checkmate, we all lose.

So how do/would you perceive a way forward?

While we are all discussing the latest status quo of world events, I can sense behind-the-scene moves being made.. always moving, hardly ever snoozing, when there’s gains to be made.

Fixed Cross wrote:I imagine you get a general migration flow across the whole continent to the North, leading to the population of Greenland. Maybe Churchill at the Hudson will finally see some action. Lets buy a plot of land there and start a casino.

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I was watching a documentary on Norway yesterday evening.. a very informative historical journey, encompassing all aspects of their societal nature.. including what they would have drank, how they would have socialised, and how they would have courted/got it on, which brought to mind the time I was on my way home from up the riad and a very cute Norwegian guy who was sitting at the bus stop close to my house asked me to sleep with him because he’d never slept with ‘my type’ before, and I asked him why me.. why not ask some other female who would be happy to oblige.. why approach me to mess with my world view, but all he cared about was the agenda he had set himself, that he acquired when our paths crossed.

Same time next week.. another European country's historical past to explore..
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Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:49 pm

"So how do/would you perceive a way forward? "

Well I don't know if you play a lot of chess, but ways forward are notoriously hard to predict.
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Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:10 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:
Pedro I Rengel wrote:Gorbachev's genious is yet to be fully understood.

Yeah, he was a great chemist.
He dissolved the frozen will to power of the stalling USSR into a fermenting pool of capitalism, from which such perfect chaos of opportunism arose between all the factions that it would take thoroughly Russian mind to find a way to control it. Someone would have to come who understands all facets of Russian power. A "scholar" - like Kissinger in your scheme, but in domestic politics, which in Russia are more like foreign politics sometimes.


I think you're right. Russia was an empire already before the USSR. I agree that this is very important in noticing the genious and the patriotism in Gorbachev.
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Postby MagsJ » Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:54 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:"So how do/would you perceive a way forward? "

Well I don't know if you play a lot of chess, but ways forward are notoriously hard to predict.

I learnt, but don’t play.. except for a handful of times, in which I didn’t fair too badly for a novice player.. or so I was told by all present.. though I knew I would revisit it at some point in time.

So not one, but many, contingency plans.. as well as a backup plan or 10?
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