## Do you ever look at your own personal individual evolution?

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### Re: Do you ever look at your own personal individual evoluti

Fixed Cross wrote:
Zero_Sum wrote:
More rich and wealthy people shouldn't have to pay taxes nonsense.

Yes for you it is about revenge, for me it is about solvency.

Really? Or as a gudiance to others?

Is the difference worth a public airing, or will that really make that much of a difference? We tend to undervalue that small point of departure , whereas greatly concerned about the price of arrival to that point of view.( present company included)

Is It worth it? What are the short term versus the long term of objectives?
Are they realistic or constructed with other Motives ? That is the acid test?
Or, is it merely concerns with the game of probability with opinion?

Who knows, but lets remind of Trump's regard for gambling and the failed enterprises of Atlantic City.
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### Re: Do you ever look at your own personal individual evoluti

All other rationalizations are reduced to sour grapes for inexorbitant losses

At any rate the Bidan son's irregular.behavior , as against the irregular behavior of those in Trump's son, behooves an equally identifiable breach of competency, serving a second tier rationalization.

Personally, referring to second tier rationalization as a way out, is an act of cowardice

How much does a secondary tier reflect primary conditional reflections?

That is a copout, and such is a derivitive that reflects some of the ignorance of procedural deflection from material to immaterial denigration of the material to the immaterial dialectic mirrored in absence of a viable transition.

It is noteable that the Budapest conference, as is the Trump-Oban meeting , germinate such an approach
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### Re: Do you ever look at your own personal individual evoluti

Fixed Cross wrote:
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More rich and wealthy people shouldn't have to pay taxes nonsense.

Yes for you it is about revenge, for me it is about solvency.

Financial economic solvency regarding the United States? Give me a few seconds to recover from pissing myself laughing!

The United States is economically and financially bankrupted where very soon this propped up shitshow of a national domestic market is going to collapse taking down the dollar globally with it where once that happens everybody can kiss their asses goodbye. We're beyond economic and financial solvency now where all that is left is revenge or retribution against those who have pillaged our nation along with those that have aided them all these several years. Solvency? Thanks for the laugh bud.
"I'm sorry, but the lifestyle you've ordered that you've grown accustomed to is completely out of stock. Have a nice day! "-$$Zero_Sum Evil Neo-Nazi Extraordinaire. Posts: 2876 Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:05 pm Location: U.S.S.A- Newly lead Bolshevik Soviet block. Also known as Weimar America. ### Re: Do you ever look at your own personal individual evoluti Pedro I Rengel wrote:I was an Injen synchretist until about 8, briefly a Romanist when I fell in love with my father, and an Anarchist the moment pubert hit. Haven't looked back since. I consider anyone who prefers government to non government weak and pathetic. They want a cock in their mouths as far as I'm concerned. If you follow an anarchist logic through, you end up a Kissingerian Trump supporter and big fan of Limbaugh How's that zionist kosher anarchism working out for you? There's no such thing as anarchism, even in so called circumstances of anarchy there are hierarchies, leaders, or chieftains with multitudes of territorial tribes and miniature states. As they expand central governments are formed. Good luck being a group of anarchists against a larger organized state military force. Those AK-47's and Molotov cocktails will only get you so far. "I'm sorry, but the lifestyle you've ordered that you've grown accustomed to is completely out of stock. Have a nice day! "-$$Zero_Sum Evil Neo-Nazi Extraordinaire. Posts: 2876 Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:05 pm Location: U.S.S.A- Newly lead Bolshevik Soviet block. Also known as Weimar America. ### Re: Do you ever look at your own personal individual evoluti Pedro I Rengel wrote:The United States is all but an anarchist state. Freedom. What is freedom but? Freedom is nothing but an extension of money or wealth, freedom is an extension of your bank account and how much currency you're holding. Without either you're not free, you're a slave or worse a prisoner. Freedom exists in only what the state allows you and what the state gives it can take away also. Freedom amongst nature you dare say? No, in nature there is no freedom either. Amongst the cruelty of nature you are its crippled plaything that it can devour in an instance without the slightest hesitation. Freedom amongst God or in heaven? Impossible as that Abrahamic God everybody is so keen on worshipping has damned this entire world to hell. One would think that the Abrahamic God is in all actuality the devil himself that like a wolf in sheep's clothing prides himself in torturing humanity posing as a savior. "I'm sorry, but the lifestyle you've ordered that you've grown accustomed to is completely out of stock. Have a nice day! "-Zero_Sum Evil Neo-Nazi Extraordinaire. Posts: 2876 Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:05 pm Location: U.S.S.A- Newly lead Bolshevik Soviet block. Also known as Weimar America. ### Re: Do you ever look at your own personal individual evoluti Zero_Sum wrote: Pedro I Rengel wrote:I was an Injen synchretist until about 8, briefly a Romanist when I fell in love with my father, and an Anarchist the moment pubert hit. Haven't looked back since. I consider anyone who prefers government to non government weak and pathetic. They want a cock in their mouths as far as I'm concerned. If you follow an anarchist logic through, you end up a Kissingerian Trump supporter and big fan of Limbaugh How's that zionist kosher anarchism working out for you? There's no such thing as anarchism, even in so called circumstances of anarchy there are hierarchies, leaders, or chieftains with multitudes of territorial tribes and miniature states. As they expand central governments are formed. Good luck being a group of anarchists against a larger organized state military force. Those AK-47's and Molotov cocktails will only get you so far. YOu know, it's interesting but this was precisely how I used to react to you, here. That it might not work out so well for you, however tough you are, when things fall apart, given the training of military forces and how they will be organized and better armed. Now you have reincarnated as a neo-nazi, but the strange thing for me is that your personality, what you enjoy in life, it seems to me as presented here, is something anarchic. National socialists are anal. They like those rigid duck walks. They love people sitting or standing in rows all yelling the same thing. They like rigid control of the body. Neat spaces, rigid roles. They like children raised in radical discipline. Symmetry. Control. Hierarchy. I just can't imagine you thriving in that, not that I know you well, or what you've become in the last couple of years. I see you revelling, still, in the coming collapse. That transition is not one national socialists would like. Nor the chaos after. It goes radically against their temperment. They want to walk into an office, a school, a military base and see everyone at their exact correct station, desk with perfect posture and a rigid facial expression. I could be wrong, never having actually seen you in your personal life, but the impression you give here makes me thing you would rebel in any national socialist subculture. I imagine you taking pleasure in misaligning the desks, in breaking rules. It's high school only more so in NS culture, down to restricting emotional expression and shit having fun. Karpel Tunnel Philosopher Posts: 2694 Joined: Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:26 pm ### Re: Do you ever look at your own personal individual evoluti "How's that zionist kosher anarchism working out for you? " It's going awesome. I really wish I had seen it sooner. Freedom does cost money. This realization itself is a sign of great maturity and intellectual advancement. Welcome to the select few. However, plenty men with plenty money own that money precicely because they exchanged their freedom for it. They really are more beholden to the rule of another than many men without a cent. Explicitly, really. Try being a millionaire in Iran and saying "I think I'll take my daughter to soccer today." Pedro I Rengel Philosopher Posts: 4291 Joined: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:55 pm ### Re: Do you ever look at your own personal individual evoluti Money doesn't make freedom. It is a prerequisite for it. Pedro I Rengel Philosopher Posts: 4291 Joined: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:55 pm ### Re: Do you ever look at your own personal individual evoluti Pedro I Rengel wrote:"How's that zionist kosher anarchism working out for you? " It's going awesome. I really wish I had seen it sooner. Freedom does cost money. This realization itself is a sign of great maturity and intellectual advancement. Welcome to the select few. However, plenty men with plenty money own that money precicely because they exchanged their freedom for it. They really are more beholden to the rule of another than many men without a cent. Explicitly, really. Try being a millionaire in Iran and saying "I think I'll take my daughter to soccer today." That makes sense, if freedom costs money then one should also be able to sell ones freedom. The strong do what they can, the weak accept what they must. - Thucydides BTL Fixed Cross Doric Usurper Posts: 9752 Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:53 am Location: the black ships ### Re: Do you ever look at your own personal individual evoluti Zero_Sum wrote:Financial economic solvency regarding the United States? Give me a few seconds to recover from pissing myself laughing! No worries mate. Get some fresh panties. The United States is economically and financially bankrupted where very soon this propped up shitshow of a national domestic market is going to collapse taking down the dollar globally with it where once that happens everybody can kiss their asses goodbye. We're beyond economic and financial solvency now where all that is left is revenge or retribution against those who have pillaged our nation along with those that have aided them all these several years. Solvency? Thanks for the laugh bud. Wish I could laugh in turn at your ideas but they're so depressingly off he mark. How do you figure any number of poor frustrated guys that don't know or trust each other would find out the locations of the wealthiest families in the world and then make their way to those addresses without being molecularly disintegrated by sonic weapons? And by extension, do you think national socialism was a ground-up peoples movement, open to workers? It was just another attempt at some form of elitism. Last edited by Fixed Cross on Sat Nov 16, 2019 3:38 pm, edited 1 time in total. The strong do what they can, the weak accept what they must. - Thucydides BTL Fixed Cross Doric Usurper Posts: 9752 Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:53 am Location: the black ships ### Re: Do you ever look at your own personal individual evoluti Karpel Tunnel wrote:YOu know, it's interesting but this was precisely how I used to react to you, here. That it might not work out so well for you, however tough you are, when things fall apart, given the training of military forces and how they will be organized and better armed. Now you have reincarnated as a neo-nazi, but the strange thing for me is that your personality, what you enjoy in life, it seems to me as presented here, is something anarchic. National socialists are anal. They like those rigid duck walks. They love people sitting or standing in rows all yelling the same thing. They like rigid control of the body. Neat spaces, rigid roles. They like children raised in radical discipline. Symmetry. Control. Hierarchy. I just can't imagine you thriving in that, not that I know you well, or what you've become in the last couple of years. I see you revelling, still, in the coming collapse. That transition is not one national socialists would like. Nor the chaos after. It goes radically against their temperment. They want to walk into an office, a school, a military base and see everyone at their exact correct station, desk with perfect posture and a rigid facial expression. I could be wrong, never having actually seen you in your personal life, but the impression you give here makes me thing you would rebel in any national socialist subculture. I imagine you taking pleasure in misaligning the desks, in breaking rules. It's high school only more so in NS culture, down to restricting emotional expression and shit having fun. I think this is generally true. The strong do what they can, the weak accept what they must. - Thucydides BTL Fixed Cross Doric Usurper Posts: 9752 Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:53 am Location: the black ships ### Re: Do you ever look at your own personal individual evoluti Indeed, freedom is not the only thing that costs money. Pedro I Rengel Philosopher Posts: 4291 Joined: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:55 pm ### Re: Do you ever look at your own personal individual evoluti Sure, but then there's also the rape. Humans are obviously not actually like or capable of that. I am very convinced that nazis resolved this by systematic brutal rape. Specially when they were forming, in the early brownshirt days. Later older German traditions may have softened the edges a bit. It cannot be denied that some of the new wave of Generals that gave Hitler his early success took an amount of fun in strategy that does not align with that rigidity. They were creative, and in touch with what gives creativity, which is fun. So something came in after the creation of the SS which was what actually took Hitler to power. Let us not forget too the so often overlooked religious facet of nazis. Speilberg did us the kindness of not allowing us ever to forget. That is not the product of a will to rigidity. It is a teenager who wants to be naughty, and understands that one can only truly be naughty under the protection of big daddy. It is father's protection that allows it. And we all know daddy likes things rigid. Best make a show of it. It's all sexual. Pedro I Rengel Philosopher Posts: 4291 Joined: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:55 pm ### Re: Do you ever look at your own personal individual evoluti Let us be clear: in breaking so violently from the established past, Hitler attracted to himself a number of geniouses, who were looking for any excuse to unleash their genious, implacably repressed by the Christian past. Military geniouses, fashion geniouses, intellectual thirsters, engineers. All sorts. It wasn't a choice, it was just a dam that broke. Reifenstahl. He cheated his people. Much like Chavez cheated us. Goddamned motherfucking socialists. Pedro I Rengel Philosopher Posts: 4291 Joined: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:55 pm ### Re: Do you ever look at your own personal individual evoluti Still, let them all burn. Or build spaceships for the U-nited States of America. Pedro I Rengel Philosopher Posts: 4291 Joined: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:55 pm ### Re: Do you ever look at your own personal individual evoluti Karpel Tunnel wrote: Zero_Sum wrote: Pedro I Rengel wrote:I was an Injen synchretist until about 8, briefly a Romanist when I fell in love with my father, and an Anarchist the moment pubert hit. Haven't looked back since. I consider anyone who prefers government to non government weak and pathetic. They want a cock in their mouths as far as I'm concerned. If you follow an anarchist logic through, you end up a Kissingerian Trump supporter and big fan of Limbaugh How's that zionist kosher anarchism working out for you? There's no such thing as anarchism, even in so called circumstances of anarchy there are hierarchies, leaders, or chieftains with multitudes of territorial tribes and miniature states. As they expand central governments are formed. Good luck being a group of anarchists against a larger organized state military force. Those AK-47's and Molotov cocktails will only get you so far. YOu know, it's interesting but this was precisely how I used to react to you, here. That it might not work out so well for you, however tough you are, when things fall apart, given the training of military forces and how they will be organized and better armed. Now you have reincarnated as a neo-nazi, but the strange thing for me is that your personality, what you enjoy in life, it seems to me as presented here, is something anarchic. National socialists are anal. They like those rigid duck walks. They love people sitting or standing in rows all yelling the same thing. They like rigid control of the body. Neat spaces, rigid roles. They like children raised in radical discipline. Symmetry. Control. Hierarchy. I just can't imagine you thriving in that, not that I know you well, or what you've become in the last couple of years. I see you revelling, still, in the coming collapse. That transition is not one national socialists would like. Nor the chaos after. It goes radically against their temperment. They want to walk into an office, a school, a military base and see everyone at their exact correct station, desk with perfect posture and a rigid facial expression. I could be wrong, never having actually seen you in your personal life, but the impression you give here makes me thing you would rebel in any national socialist subculture. I imagine you taking pleasure in misaligning the desks, in breaking rules. It's high school only more so in NS culture, down to restricting emotional expression and shit having fun. Yes, I remember those prior days of the past. You know I'm not just a man of chaos where in fact in another thread I've layed out my ideals for a just and ordered society with what that would look like. I talk a lot about chaos because I've lived a very chaotic life where I understand chaos all too well. In some ways I still do revel in chaos and very much enjoy its presence like that when I was a much younger man but I also understand the necessity of social order in stark contrast. Of course there's always a relationship between chaos and social order where they sort of constantly influence each other. There is no social order either without constant reoccurring intervening chaos that becomes its greatest primary influencer, social existential chaos is a constant that is always the shadow lurking behind or underneath social order. As much as imposed social order tries to eliminate chaos it can never do so completely, it can only hope to restrain chaos for as long as it can until it breaks loose again onto the world which it always does. Concerning human beings social order and chaos are both constants forever fighting or dancing with each other in concert. Moreover social order is itself controlled chaos and I've come to appreciate or revel in that as well. I like national socialism, it's the only social, political, racial, economic, and government system that makes any sense to me. One thing hasn't changed for me, I really do despise western neo-liberalism where I want to see it fall. "I'm sorry, but the lifestyle you've ordered that you've grown accustomed to is completely out of stock. Have a nice day! "-

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0-16 years old: Roman Catholic / Conservative household and upbringing

17-present day: non-practising RC/Spiritual, but still attend RC church for family Sacraments and local Community events / Conservative values, so started supporting the Conservatives, became a part of my Local Association, and standing in Elections since 2010

During my college and uni days, so from age 16-21, I declared myself as Labour, as it stopped those around me from debating politics with me, and I couldn’t think of anything worse than that at that age.. my Art-student peers did likewise, for the very same reason, as we were all inward-facing introverted types that weren’t about that debating-life, but we were not Left-leaning in the slightest.
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As I am older then most here, my own "personal evolution"
takes in much different ground... the only thing to note before I was
18 is that my earlier years were of wealth, then by age 10, poverty
and poverty was my companion for many years.....

as for my political views, I as does everyone, simply followed my
parents political views.. as they were upper class media types,
they were left of center, nothing too radical...and neither was I....

the first turning point in my individual evolution was the election of
Ronny Raygun in 1980...at that point I had lived in California for several years
and saw first hand the damage he did as governor and I knew what damage
he would do to the country if elected.....politically, I was radicalized....
in time, I became an anarchist.. and lived the anarchist life.. I was completely
off the grid....

and philosophically I was radicalized by my reading of Nietzsche... before N.
I really didn't think philosophically....and I believed myself to be the Ubermensh….

oh, the lies we tell ourselves when we are young...…
and as one grows older, the lies we tell ourselves change...
the lies become lies of practicality....
I would do that but I can't because of...…

I remained an anarchist for the rest of the 80's but I changed my philosophical
position several times over the decade.... from a follower of Hume to
a major phase of existentialism which engaged me for many years....

in the nineties, I realized the failure of anarchism, so I reengaged with
communism....as my politics were slowly becoming less radical,
so was my philosophy...

I have had three distinct political positions
and at least 5 distinct philosophical positions....

and in all that time, over 40 years, I never wavered from being
an atheist.....

my philosophical and political changes have been due to the
changing, evolving conditions on the ground.....
we must adapt and change both our political and philosophy
with the changing situations we find ourselves in....

I adapt with the times... which is more then I can say for most people....

most people hold on to their beliefs with a death grip... because for most
people, their beliefs define who they are and if their beliefs are wrong,
then everything they have stood for is wrong.....to be wrong would
challenged everything they know or understand about the world and themselves....

to be wrong would mean one's place in the universe would be unmoored
and people would feel disconnected and alienated from themselves and society....

our beliefs and actions stem from a place within us...
when I walk into a room, I usually guess that I am the smartest person
in that room, that knowledge, that security gives me the starting point
of my interactions with people and the universe...

I have a strength that most people don't have... and I work from that strength....
which allows me to act and interact with people.....

let us say that I discover I am actually of average intelligence... my strength
would be negated, I would not have some place of strength to approach the world...
I would become unsteady and unsure......I would doubt myself.....

I would become disconnected and alienated from the beliefs that have
allowed me to connect to the world...…..

to become who you are allows one to deal with, have interactions with
people from a secure and safe place... who we are.. that is the place
where we begin.... we flow from our inner being to our outer self..
if we are connected to our inner being, our "who we are" we flow from
a position of strength... this knowledge of "who we are" allows us to
successfully engage with the world.....the being "Kropotkin" begins not
with the outside visible self, but with his understanding of "who he is",
all his actions and interactions flow from Kropotkin's knowledge of
who he is.....we travel from our inner selves to our outer self....

all our outer actions and interactions flow from our knowledge of who we are....

if we are confused as to who we are, then our actions and interactions with others,
reflect that confusion....

my own personal evolution has taken me to a place where if I am to understand myself,
I must not begin with my actions or interactions with others, but with the knowledge
of "who I am"....

Kropotkin is not the action or interactions he has with others, but Kropotkin
is that inside of him, that "who I am"....when I say me.. I am saying, "who I am"
that inside of me.. I think of myself as the smartest person in the room,
that understanding of who I am is the basis of my actions and interactions
with the universe.....

I begin there... I am the smartest person in the room....

everything flows from that knowledge....

but that knowledge might be a lie....
and only confusion and uncertainty and disconnection can come from
that new knowledge.. .....

so I continue to believe I am the smartest person in the room...

but at what cost?

Kropotkin
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wind up with neither."
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Zero_Sum wrote:
Gloominary wrote::lol: Nice thread, and I have.

Socio-politically:

17-20 Anarcho-collectivist and Utilitarian
20-25 Illegalist and Egoistic Hedonist
25-30 White National Libertarian or Civic National Democratic Socialist (couldn't make up my mind)
30-Present White National Social Democrat

Spiritually:

17 Christian
18-Present Agnostic, but from time to time I've flirted with Buddhism, Daoism and the paranormal.

Before 17 I didn't give a lot of thought to things.

I've been a lot of things, but one thing I've never been is a globalist.

Good seeing you again Gloominary, I promise to respond to that other thread at a later point but as usual I struggle with multitasking.

Yeah, amongst everything I've never been a globalist, zionist, or internationalist.

I still say you're wrong about democracy but that is a contentious debate we'll have at a later date. We both agree on race, identity, conservative cultural values, and nationalism where I think of you as a political ally on that.

Good to see you too old chum, I consider you an ally on that as well.

Right, I've been an anarchist, a libertarian and what I'm calling a national social democrat, but there's some things I've never been, I've never been a liberal (in the post-classical sense of that word) or a progressive, at least not on social issues, I've never been a globalist, a corporatist and I most certainly have never been a Zionist.
I've never been an autocrat either, altho as our civilizations continues to unravel, national social autocracy may be necessary.

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Gloominary wrote:
Zero_Sum wrote:
Gloominary wrote::lol: Nice thread, and I have.

Socio-politically:

17-20 Anarcho-collectivist and Utilitarian
20-25 Illegalist and Egoistic Hedonist
25-30 White National Libertarian or Civic National Democratic Socialist (couldn't make up my mind)
30-Present White National Social Democrat

Spiritually:

17 Christian
18-Present Agnostic, but from time to time I've flirted with Buddhism, Daoism and the paranormal.

Before 17 I didn't give a lot of thought to things.

I've been a lot of things, but one thing I've never been is a globalist.

Good seeing you again Gloominary, I promise to respond to that other thread at a later point but as usual I struggle with multitasking.

Yeah, amongst everything I've never been a globalist, zionist, or internationalist.

I still say you're wrong about democracy but that is a contentious debate we'll have at a later date. We both agree on race, identity, conservative cultural values, and nationalism where I think of you as a political ally on that.

Good to see you too old chum, I consider you an ally on that as well.

Right, I've been an anarchist, a libertarian and what I'm calling a national social democrat, but there's some things I've never been, I've never been a liberal (in the post-classical sense of that word) or a progressive, at least not on social issues, I've never been a globalist, a corporatist and I most certainly have never been a Zionist.
I've never been an autocrat either, altho as our civilizations continues to unravel, national social autocracy may be necessary.

When society breaks down into total chaos, believe me, we're going to need an autocracy.
"I'm sorry, but the lifestyle you've ordered that you've grown accustomed to is completely out of stock. Have a nice day! "-$$Zero_Sum Evil Neo-Nazi Extraordinaire. Posts: 2876 Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:05 pm Location: U.S.S.A- Newly lead Bolshevik Soviet block. Also known as Weimar America. ### Re: Do you ever look at your own personal individual evoluti So from total chaos we get an organized autocratic structure. By what mechanism will this occur? The strong do what they can, the weak accept what they must. - Thucydides BTL Fixed Cross Doric Usurper Posts: 9752 Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:53 am Location: the black ships ### Re: Do you ever look at your own personal individual evoluti Fixed Cross wrote:So from total chaos we get an organized autocratic structure. By what mechanism will this occur? Civil war, violent revolution, economic collapse, and the internal destruction of the former government. [Competing philosophical political ideologies in the background fighting over what the next government will be and how to rebuild the nation after it collapses. Ect, ect.] "I'm sorry, but the lifestyle you've ordered that you've grown accustomed to is completely out of stock. Have a nice day! "-$$$Zero_Sum Evil Neo-Nazi Extraordinaire. Posts: 2876 Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:05 pm Location: U.S.S.A- Newly lead Bolshevik Soviet block. Also known as Weimar America. ### Re: Do you ever look at your own personal individual evoluti Zero_Sum wrote: Fixed Cross wrote:So from total chaos we get an organized autocratic structure. By what mechanism will this occur? Civil war, violent revolution, economic collapse, and the internal destruction of the former government. [Competing philosophical political ideologies in the background fighting over what the next government will be and how to rebuild the nation after it collapses. Ect, ect.] It might not re-arise as a single unit. It would likely have a strong military format, at least for a while, given that they could maintain order. Then it will be what they are will to transition to. Unless there are different military factions and these gain control of different regions. And then within these regions what each military power is willing to transition to, if they are. I truly doubt these regions will break down into racially pure subunits. We are way too bonded over race and culture lines. And the military is mixed. I don't think the main power factions will break down over racial lines, though there would like be racial aspect to the chaos. National socialism, the only one we've seen in action for any length of time, with any broad influence, was centered on one charismatic leader. That might happen, or it might be more like juntas. You might get Balkanization. The whole thing might pave the way for single world government, if the chaos was widespread enough. There is also a chance of larger scale wars with weapons that mess things up for most people and most life. Karpel Tunnel Philosopher Posts: 2694 Joined: Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:26 pm ### Re: Do you ever look at your own personal individual evoluti Karpel Tunnel wrote: Zero_Sum wrote: Fixed Cross wrote:So from total chaos we get an organized autocratic structure. By what mechanism will this occur? Civil war, violent revolution, economic collapse, and the internal destruction of the former government. [Competing philosophical political ideologies in the background fighting over what the next government will be and how to rebuild the nation after it collapses. Ect, ect.] It might not re-arise as a single unit. It would likely have a strong military format, at least for a while, given that they could maintain order. Then it will be what they are will to transition to. Unless there are different military factions and these gain control of different regions. And then within these regions what each military power is willing to transition to, if they are. I truly doubt these regions will break down into racially pure subunits. We are way too bonded over race and culture lines. And the military is mixed. I don't think the main power factions will break down over racial lines, though there would like be racial aspect to the chaos. National socialism, the only one we've seen in action for any length of time, with any broad influence, was centered on one charismatic leader. That might happen, or it might be more like juntas. You might get Balkanization. The whole thing might pave the way for single world government, if the chaos was widespread enough. There is also a chance of larger scale wars with weapons that mess things up for most people and most life. Let's see here: 1. It takes six to seven days without food for civilization or society to transform into utter chaos. 2. Almost sixty five percent of the entire United States has no savings less than$500.00. [Not that it would help them when money becomes worthless overnight anyways.]

3. What are they going to pay the military in? You forget ex military veterans, police, and law enforcement in your equation. Most military personnel are going to be concerned for their own family and well being with the continuity of government being damned.

4. Some regions most definitely will but not all of them.

5. It will start as multiple exceedingly angry white juntas until a charismatic leader emerges that unites those multiple angry white juntas into a singular unified organized political movement or force.

6. They'll probably try for a world government with the collapse of the United States but that will only give more fuel for western nationalists and juntas even more. That would be like pouring gasoline on the global dumpster fire making it burn much more brighter. Of course they're going to try all the same.

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More likely you are now China.

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