There is no such thing as love or romance.

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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Zero_Sum » Tue Dec 17, 2019 6:21 pm

When western nations economies collapse and a degree in feminist literature or social studies gets you a fulltime career in....

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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Parodites » Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:03 am

Well hypergamy does play a role in human sexuality. However so do a lot of things. Your thesis is reductionist, and therefor deserves no more attention than these few sentences. If you want to reformulate your ideas into a more serious, nuanced and adult theory, in which hypergamy is analyzed in its relationship to any of the other innumerable factors in the actually very complex and still not entirely understood phenomenon of human sexuality, then be my guest. Or keep shitposting, plenty of people will bite it looks like; quite a few pages in this thread.
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Kriswest » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:52 pm

I will be bitchy, cranky, sweet, happy, kind, pain in the ass all at random times from now on. I am embracing my mentalpause until further notice. Viva lack of total control!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is not a test,,, this is my life right now. Have a good day and please buckle up for safety reasons,, All those in high chairs, go in the back of the room.
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Aegean » Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:16 pm

The absence of a final absolute answer will be enough to discredit any opinion, methinks.
Alluding to 'complexity' implies insight that cannot deliver the goods.

Yet, the most complex begins with a simple observation....and metaphysics must be founded on physics - something even an animal can perceive.

In this context, my specialty, the complexity arises by a simple, obvious, fact.
There are no absolutes (no perfect, final, complete, whole, singularity)- but only degrees, fractions, levels, any moniker will do alluding to the same concept of fluidity.
Individuals are not entirely male or female...but a mixture of these two binary reproductive roles.
Fitness is measured in relation to the environment, where these two specialized types must function. the only measure of sexual types is reproduction, not pleasure.
Therefore, we can say that masculinity/femininity is a measure of the degree of male/female roles, as these interact within a specific environment.
So, we have gradations of masculine/feminine not absolute wholes.

homosexuality can be evaluated in this context as a genetic malfunction - brought about by hormonal imbalances and environmental conditions - promoting a feminine dominated psyche, producing a behaviour that inhibits reproduction, if it remains true to itself.
We can place paedophilia in this group of unfit mutations, without getting it the unsavoury topic of what constitutes an adult that can give consent - Ecmandu can explain.

Having said that, the evolution of this binary method is not accidental. We may say even consciousness is dominated by binary methods of 1/0, good/bad, etc.
The brain itself is physically divided in two parts. Binary thinking and dualism, is part of the human condition - part of the living condition.
It evolves first because it is the easiest, requiring minimal cognitive work.
Male/Female is a binary which evolves distinct mental and physical traits, facilitating specific outcomes.
These genetic roles are given a memetic foundation when placed within man-made environments.
Gender is not a social construct, but must be an extension of genetics, if it is not nihilistic.
Only nihilism attempts to contradict genetics - the physical world - with ideological constructs. Accusing others of socially engineering so as to conceal its own motives to do so.
To put it simply, it's not that gender is a social construct, but that gender ought to be a social construct that contradicts genetic impulses, because the ideal world, for Nihilists - of the positive sort - is a world created exclusively by the mind.
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Parodites » Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:48 pm

Alluding to complexity implies insight.

Okay Aegean: you see, in medicine- or in any specialized field in fact, (literally every single one of them) a kind of internal language develops; a jargon that actually represents the very simplification you call for: the edifice of knowledge in these fields builds up over time until the only practical mode of communication is employing equally specialized words that are used to tag large amounts of information that it would be impossible to continually spell out and keep going through in real time. I wrote an entire essay on the concept of mimetic hyperinflation for example, going up from the concrete language of experience that everyone should be able to understand, all the way up to the highest level abstraction. This concept is important in my work, so it would be impossible to,- every time I want to bring up the material in that essay,- go through the entire 50 page tractate in the middle of a sentence. So I employ a "big word" that is simply meant to serve as a tag directing the reader to that material to further contextualize whatever I happen to be saying concerning such materials. Every field does this; I don't understand your apparent conviction that it should be otherwise with philosophy. I get that you don't want to partake in the riches of the Occident- in learning, and you have no desire to scale the edifice of knowledge, and just keep your armchair meditations on the ground level without every going anywhere with it: but I, and others- do.

And the philosopher does not start from the simple and work up to the complex- or start with the complex and work down to the simple. A philosopher possesses an instinct, an instinct to unconsciously and continuously extract from his environment, from what he reads or sees or hearts,- even from out of his own inner dialogue: patterns. And one day such a pattern dawns on him, as an accumulation of his entire life-process and experience; a symbolic reification of his total existence, which is actually capable of intuiting some datum about the structure of the universe and reality themselves,- a pattern which is capable of drawing other patterns into its orbit, and of transmuting them-- into itself. This arche-pattern is the LOGOS, and it follows a sequence of multiplicity emerging from unity, and unity redissolving into multiplicity, ad infinitum- in this way spontaneously generating new patterns, new perspectives which, however apparently disparate they may appear from the superficies, express a kind of "aesthetic unity of ideas" far superior to any merely logical conformation and unity.
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Magnus Anderson » Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:00 pm

phoneutria wrote:Don't fucking know who you are tbh.
Not that it matters.


Joker.

KT wrote:It is so fucking facile to hate all women rather than noticing what makes your life and experiences, choices and attitudes, factors in what you have experienced.

It's like reading an incel whose on prozac and the prozac is working so you are happy to hate women.


That's my impression too. His frustration is skewing his perception of reality.
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:30 am

What about all the women who get rejected? Why is there not a single tear spilled on their account here? Wtf is that? You think it never happens to them? Ill tell you it does, and one woman getting rejected, especially a pretty one who is not supposed to get rejected, is worse than ten thousand incels being rejected. Because it just gnarls the stomach, even in the guy who rejected her. Its unnatural. But sometimes you have to reject a woman because of ethical considerations or because your god damned house is a mess. Fuck, theres all kinds of reasons, she might be half your age and you're raised right. It still hurts. Okay? Think about that. Let it haunt you, and "buck up" and man up and don't be a bitch and take the gut-punch and just do your part.
The strong do what they can, the weak accept what they must.
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:34 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:What about all the women who get rejected? Why is there not a single tear spilled on their account here? Wtf is that? You think it never happens to them? Ill tell you it does, and one woman getting rejected, especially a pretty one who is not supposed to get rejected, is worse than ten thousand incels being rejected. Because it just gnarls the stomach, even in the guy who rejected her. Its unnatural. But sometimes you have to reject a woman because of ethical considerations or because your god damned house is a mess. Fuck, theres all kinds of reasons, she might be half your age and you're raised right. It still hurts. Okay? Think about that. Let it haunt you, and "buck up" and man up and don't be a bitch and take the gut-punch and just do your part.
Well, yes. I find it odd when members of either sex are blissfully unaware that the other side also gets shit on with regularity. It's nice to think the problem is entirely the opposite sex, but how could one not have noticed how people are getting shattered, hearts torn out, cheated on, cold shouldered into nothing, demeaned and so on, on both sides. It makes me wonder if someone has ever been close to someone on the other side if they think this is simple. Any woman I've ever been with or close to has gone through at least a couple of different categories of hellacious treatment. Likewise with male friends. Some attractive psychopaths on each side and some rich ones manage to do fine, but it's rare, unless they meeet something like a soulmate early on and stick with that.
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Tab » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:03 pm

Damn, missed all the pornz.
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Fixed Cross » Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:21 am

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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Tab » Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:02 pm

Shit.

All these years I've been doing it wrong.
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