There is no such thing as love or romance.

[Zero_Sum]

“The wise woman patterns her life on the theory and practice of modern banking. She never gives her love, but only lends it on the best security and at the highest rate of interest.” — Toulouse Lautrec

Sounds like an advanced form of prostitution, that author seems honest, transparent, and legit. Thumbs up!

I like how women mask, masquerade, and camouflage their relationship prostitution under concepts like love, romance, prudence, devotion, or fidelity, of course for a man like myself I see straight through all that bullshit where I chuckle at women who think they're clever enough to out wit me. Sorry, that bullshit facade and pretense doesn't work on me, I'm immune to such deceptions or entrapments. You can't con a con-man, although in my life many women have tried where through experience my mental immunity has only grown stronger because of such.

I've become a master at seeing through female bullshit overtime, I am quick and very reactive to see through female bullshit, spin, or deception after years of experiencing it firsthand. I'm very quick to interpret females lying.

I still in my off time however find studying female psychology to be fascinating, I am just about certain that women are the more deceptive gender, they're just better at masking it more than men are. Women are brutally passive aggressive and I find that very fascinating where I wish there was whole entire studies devoted at looking at that, but of course that isn't PC where it will never happen in any official capacity.

[Zero_Sum]

Yes, I have a confirmation bias because I'm a man not some woman with a split between her legs.

We all have confirmation biases, the question is how much. And if we can whittle away at them.

How's it working for me? Very well actually, I can say today that I have come to understanding women and female nature very well, so much so that I know more about them than they know about themselves.

I think it is possible for each side of the divide to know things about the other side they do not know. IOW men can know things about women they do not realize and vice versa. Some of the more perceptive members of each set might know more than individuals on the other side, even about themselves, since people can be unbelievably ignorant about themselves. In fact you almost get punished, growing up, for noticing who you are, what you think, what you feel and why you think and feel these ways.

It's not just sexual intercourse and my longing desire of it as a man with women I'm interested in,

Just so it's clear, I didn't assume that.

8)I purely find the psychological experiences and mental nature of women to be utterly fascinating particularly the less spoken about darker, exploiting, or manipulative aspects of women.

There's no better way of defeating, subduing, and conquering an adversary than understanding all their mental tricks, facades,pretenses, entrapments, strengths, or weaknesses. It makes dominating them all the more easy, fun, pleasurable, and enjoyable.

Is there nothing in their persective that they offer you? No insight? Nothing that compliments your strengths?

Honestly, I have no positive experiences of women. Most of my experiences with women are mostly negative.

Our own ILP WendyDarling is probably the only single woman I think highly of. Probably the closest thing to a good woman I know of whom I have respect for.

I didn't become so jaded overnight either, long ago when I was a younger man I was quite the romantic or idealist trying to always be the nice guy. Of course as they say, I grew up and outgrew all of that senseless naivety overtime.

[Zero_Sum]

All of those social arrangements seem terribly complicated, how's that working out for you?

Well it obviously isn’t.. working out for me, because I’ve already stated.. I ain’t about that life, so the options that males are putting to me.. are not my ideal, nor do they align with my principles/my inbuilt directives. Just call me I, Robot.. or maybe just perhaps RoboMags.

I swear, with professional women of all kinds they just refuse to settle down with any particular guy always chasing that fantasy upper class male day dream of theirs and then when they become old where they're still single basically become bitter old shrews. The kind of bitter old single ladies you see in a grocery store yelling at everybody, you know those kinds.

Is it just about that? about class and money and lifestyle-maintenance.. because it seems to me that that female demographic are there already.. all by themselves and under their own steam. It is those mistress-seeking men, who married young, and then realise they’re missing out, when they see these self-made females with probably more ideal qualities than in that whom they married. I think that’s a fact.

What is it with all these women chasing after married men these days? I'm been seeing a lot of that lately in my own neck of the woods. It's definitely an in built competition thing with women or females competing against each other. Then again the concept of marriage these days along with loyalty seems to have lost all of its original meaning or purpose. This of course comes to no surprise to me whatsoever.

That's another thing that fascinates me concerning female psychology or social dynamics, female competition against other females. I often find women will despise one another and yet when they're occupying the same area they act so nice to one another even when they hate each other looking at themselves as rivals. There's that in built female passive aggression once again that I was alluding to earlier.

I swear, if women could get away with it they would stab each other to death all the while smiling saying nice things to one another simultaneously. Female aggression towards other females once again is another fascinating thing for me, I never tire watching all of this as a silent observer.

[Urwrongx1000]

Women prefer to bet on a tried and true horse than risk themselves with one unproven or unfamiliar.

Men who are happily married are very, very rare, and thus highly desired by women.

A happily married man to a woman, is like a supermodel hottie chick to men.

[Zero_Sum]

Women prefer to bet on a tried and true horse than risk themselves with one unproven or unfamiliar.

Men who are happily married are very, very rare, and thus highly desired by women.

A happily married man to a woman, is like a supermodel hottie chick to men.

Proving once again that a majority of women are gold digging whores or prostitutes incapable of any other kind of valuations in men guided by primitive reptilian base instincts which I say unapologetically.

They're fucking predictable and have no shame at all, they call this modern whoredom in vogue these days, love or romance. Whatever, I just call them exploitative economic sexual capitalists, there is no need for all the lies, gimmicks, charades,false- facades, or lipstick. Let's just call a spade a fucking spade.

I'm so tired of modern women being elevated to the status of virginal saintly Madonnas.

[Zero_Sum]

Modern women in the workplace in an anointed Christ like pose. Somebody should send this portrait to the "Me Too" founder.

They should change this title from the 'Last Supper' into the 'Last Woman' in a sort of mocking Nietzschean display of the 'Last Man'.

[Karpel Tunnel]

Well, if I were a woman myself, I too would look for the most desirable man. There is no doubt in my mind that the desirability of a man would be determined by how wealthy he is but I am pretty sure that wouldn't be the only factor involved.

Would it be the main one? Isn't there a minimum level of economic competence that you would want them to have, and then in that pool of men, you would choose them prioritizing other factors?

[Karpel Tunnel]

I have an entirely different view regarding sexual relationships in that I firmly reject traditional fictions of love and romance altogether. Basically for me women are sexual capitalists or mercenaries where to understand female sexual nature all one has to understand is female hypergamy. Hypergamy is where all women compete amongst themselves for the top thirty percentile of men who are the most powerful, wealthiest, or influential because women are attracted to wealth, social economic mobility, and social power.

I have always managed to attract women, and very attractive women. I have never been even close to the top 30% of incomes. Women do want financial stability, most of them. But there tends to be a minimum. Like once the man can hold decent jobs, they enter the pool of people to fall in love with. And those decent jobs do not have to put them above 70% of other men. Sure, there are women who go for money, but as a rule. Nah.

And men have the parallel version, where looks are higher on the list. But once they find themselves attracted to the person, that minimum is crossed and from their anyone in what is a rather large pool for most men is a possibility.

Most people are pretty shallow, but even shallow people weigh in things like sense of humor, shared interests, that they enjoy the company of the other person, that they can be friends. People with just a bit more soul to them include things like intelligence.

And it's not just that I haven't been in the top 30%. I haven't shown any career interest. If I can work less and get by, I do. I have issues with authority (as they say, heh) also. I tend to jump to other fields. I'll get jobs that are pleasant with massive cuts in pay. But I pull my weight.

And that puts me over the minimum. I have other attributes that make me attractive to women, so in the pool of men who are ok finanacially, who will pull their weight, women get interested in me.

It is so fucking facile to hate all women rather than noticing what makes your life and experiences, choices and attitudes, factors in what you have experienced.

It's like reading an incel whose on prozac and the prozac is working so you are happy to hate women.

[Karpel Tunnel]

If money is the root of evil in men, then women are its root and origins concerning general female hypergamy.

How much of male competition for money, power, territory, and resources the complete result of sexual competition in terms of acquiring reproductive capabilities or privileges? While I sincerely despise Abrahamic religions of all kinds perhaps the only correct assessment that they have is that women are the root of all evil.

Evil? Women are the ones who have children. Traditionally they have needed someone to protect them, especially when they are pregnant and to be someone who can feed the children. So even if woman are like you think they are, the motivations are not evil but practical in terms of making sure their children will be well taken care of. That ain't evil.

I mean for one second do you ever consider how your individual experiences can have skewed your take on reality and made you think your experiences show univeral rules?

And your experiences seem based on how women have treated you. But you are not simply NOT in the top 30%. You've been on the fringe in a number of categories.

[Zero_Sum]

I have an entirely different view regarding sexual relationships in that I firmly reject traditional fictions of love and romance altogether. Basically for me women are sexual capitalists or mercenaries where to understand female sexual nature all one has to understand is female hypergamy. Hypergamy is where all women compete amongst themselves for the top thirty percentile of men who are the most powerful, wealthiest, or influential because women are attracted to wealth, social economic mobility, and social power.

I have always managed to attract women, and very attractive women. I have never been even close to the top 30% of incomes. Women do want financial stability, most of them. But there tends to be a minimum. Like once the man can hold decent jobs, they enter the pool of people to fall in love with. And those decent jobs do not have to put them above 70% of other men. Sure, there are women who go for money, but as a rule. Nah.

And men have the parallel version, where looks are higher on the list. But once they find themselves attracted to the person, that minimum is crossed and from their anyone in what is a rather large pool for most men is a possibility.

Most people are pretty shallow, but even shallow people weigh in things like sense of humor, shared interests, that they enjoy the company of the other person, that they can be friends. People with just a bit more soul to them include things like intelligence.

And it's not just that I haven't been in the top 30%. I haven't shown any career interest. If I can work less and get by, I do. I have issues with authority (as they say, heh) also. I tend to jump to other fields. I'll get jobs that are pleasant with massive cuts in pay. But I pull my weight.

And that puts me over the minimum. I have other attributes that make me attractive to women, so in the pool of men who are ok finanacially, who will pull their weight, women get interested in me.

It is so fucking facile to hate all women rather than noticing what makes your life and experiences, choices and attitudes, factors in what you have experienced.

It's like reading an incel whose on prozac and the prozac is working so you are happy to hate women.

I have always managed to attract women, and very attractive women. I have never been even close to the top 30% of incomes.

What's your profession and yearly income amount to?

Give me an estimated range of financial self worth.

Sure, there are women who go for money, but as a rule. Nah.

Oh, really? What alien planet do you stem from?

And men have the parallel version, where looks are higher on the list. But once they find themselves attracted to the person, that minimum is crossed and from their anyone in what is a rather large pool for most men is a possibility

Except physical looks is the easiest thing for people to change upon whereas economic occupation and money isn't.

Basically women utilize the worst things or criterias to judge men on by comparison.

Most people are pretty shallow, but even shallow people weigh in things like sense of humor, shared interests, that they enjoy the company of the other person, that they can be friends. People with just a bit more soul to them include things like intelligence.

With women financial economic value of a man is their primary value of judgement, everything else is secondary to that.

You could be the most repulsive, boring, un-entertaining, and humorless man in the world but if you're worth millions of dollars women will chase after you.

It is so fucking facile to hate all women rather than noticing what makes your life and experiences, choices and attitudes, factors in what you have experienced.

I don't hate all women, just a majority of them.

It's like reading an incel whose on prozac and the prozac is working so you are happy to hate women.

An incel is a man that hasn't been with a woman, I on the other hand have been with many women over a period of time. The label doesn't fit.

I do find it interesting you would utilize that incendiary language here however.

[Zero_Sum]

If money is the root of evil in men, then women are its root and origins concerning general female hypergamy.

How much of male competition for money, power, territory, and resources the complete result of sexual competition in terms of acquiring reproductive capabilities or privileges? While I sincerely despise Abrahamic religions of all kinds perhaps the only correct assessment that they have is that women are the root of all evil.

Evil? Women are the ones who have children. Traditionally they have needed someone to protect them, especially when they are pregnant and to be someone who can feed the children. So even if woman are like you think they are, the motivations are not evil but practical in terms of making sure their children will be well taken care of. That ain't evil.

I mean for one second do you ever consider how your individual experiences can have skewed your take on reality and made you think your experiences show univeral rules?

And your experiences seem based on how women have treated you. But you are not simply NOT in the top 30%. You've been on the fringe in a number of categories.

Ah, the word practical, a seemingly useless word discussed in these conversations utilized to sweep bullshit under the rug in the hope that nobody is watching.

Most certainly individual life experiences play a role in my life like everybody else but that is not the only sole thing in my development of thinking as there is data and other factors that play their roles as well. You're trying to internalize my problems when in fact there are other external factors at play here as well. I see right through your argument and debate tactics, please step it up a notch.

It's really easy living on the fringes of society when you're exiled into poverty living as an outcast and generally being unwanted which tells me you're upper middle class which might explain your naivety in all of this.

[Zero_Sum]

Remember men, it's not all about the money.

The article written below is authored by one Hannah Frishberg. Well done.

[Zero_Sum]

It's interesting, on the one hand you'll see women complaining that men don't make enough money to warrant their affections [hired prostitution] for marriage and it usually will be paired with another article right by it of economically disenfranchised men talking about sex doll brothels in the next.

So if women get upset their frustrations [materialistic whoredom] will be completely [poorly] rationalized and yet if men are frustrated sexually they can hold their dicks in their hands at a local sex doll brothel.

Yeah, nothing unfair there. Perfectly equitable.

[Zero_Sum]

What to do in a global or national collapsing economy where a majority of men are financially unable to afford sexual relationships with [biological prostitutes]women?

I got a brilliant idea, we'll promote silicon sex dolls and robots for usage by poor disenfranchised men everywhere!

I'm sure the economically exploited and disenfranchised men around the world will be thrilled with these alternative prospects! Finally, a solution to male incels worldwide!

You know, nothing says you're fucking worthless, sub-human, garbage, or disposable as an entire gender like promoting sex dolls as you can't afford a relationship with actual women. Fucking brilliant man!

That will surely create a sexual balance, harmony, and egalitarianism worldwide in society, right?

What will they think of next?

[Urwrongx1000]

What's your profession and yearly income amount to?

LOL

I'm guessing 100k+

[Zero_Sum]

What's your profession and yearly income amount to?

LOL

I'm guessing 100k+

I'm going to take a bet on his behalf, we will start with a base minimum of 40-50K yearly and we'll work from there.

Let us give the man some benefit of doubt.

[MagsJ]

“The wise woman patterns her life on the theory and practice of modern banking. She never gives her love, but only lends it on the best security and at the highest rate of interest.” — Toulouse Lautrec

Well the guy did only ever date prostitutes, so perhaps he was basing his judgment on that? so from his experience..

What is it with all these women chasing after married men these days? I'm been seeing a lot of that lately in my own neck of the woods. It's definitely an in built competition thing with women or females competing against each other. Then again the concept of marriage these days along with loyalty seems to have lost all of its original meaning or purpose. This of course comes to no surprise to me whatsoever.

That's another thing that fascinates me concerning female psychology or social dynamics, female competition against other females. I often find women will despise one another and yet when they're occupying the same area they act so nice to one another even when they hate each other looking at themselves as rivals. There's that in built female passive aggression once again that I was alluding to earlier.

I swear, if women could get away with it they would stab each other to death all the while smiling saying nice things to one another simultaneously. Female aggression towards other females once again is another fascinating thing for me, I never tire watching all of this as a silent observer.

I don’t know why some women go after married men.. it’s something I’ve never understood.

Women can fight and argue over men and popularity all they want.. not all partake in that kinda game.. it’s not all, or any, fun.

Friends aren’t happy for you if you attract the eligible males or males more eligible than they attract, but it’s alright when they do.. I’m sure the same may apply to males?

[MagsJ]

Women prefer to bet on a tried and true horse than risk themselves with one unproven or unfamiliar.

Men who are happily married are very, very rare, and thus highly desired by women.

A happily married man to a woman, is like a supermodel hottie chick to men.

What woman in her right mind would want a married man?

[Zero_Sum]

“The wise woman patterns her life on the theory and practice of modern banking. She never gives her love, but only lends it on the best security and at the highest rate of interest.” — Toulouse Lautrec

Well the guy did only ever date prostitutes, so perhaps he was basing his judgment on that? so from his experience..

What is it with all these women chasing after married men these days? I'm been seeing a lot of that lately in my own neck of the woods. It's definitely an in built competition thing with women or females competing against each other. Then again the concept of marriage these days along with loyalty seems to have lost all of its original meaning or purpose. This of course comes to no surprise to me whatsoever.

That's another thing that fascinates me concerning female psychology or social dynamics, female competition against other females. I often find women will despise one another and yet when they're occupying the same area they act so nice to one another even when they hate each other looking at themselves as rivals. There's that in built female passive aggression once again that I was alluding to earlier.

I swear, if women could get away with it they would stab each other to death all the while smiling saying nice things to one another simultaneously. Female aggression towards other females once again is another fascinating thing for me, I never tire watching all of this as a silent observer.

I don’t know why some women go after married men.. it’s something I’ve never understood.

Women can fight and argue over men and popularity all they want.. not all partake in that kinda game.. it’s not all, or any, fun.

Friends aren’t happy for you if you attract the eligible males or males more eligible than they attract, but it’s alright when they do.. I’m sure the same may apply to males?

Honestly us men are just happy or content to have some poon to pound before falling asleep at night and then having that same poon making us breakfast in the morning where afterwards pounding the snatch once again before going to work. Men are easily made happy in contrast to women, or at least I am anyways.

[Fixed Cross]

Women prefer to bet on a tried and true horse than risk themselves with one unproven or unfamiliar.

Men who are happily married are very, very rare, and thus highly desired by women.

A happily married man to a woman, is like a supermodel hottie chick to men.

What woman in her right mind would want a married man?

Rare are the women and men who stay in their right mind when desire announces itself.
Married men emanate the evident power of having been able to attract a life-mate. Biology is programmed to select for such clues.
Reason is overruled by lust, which is the strong arm of that more ancient reason, to get ones DNA perpetuated.
Our DNA is doing most of our thinking. Our brain is the engine, not the idea-generator.

[Zero_Sum]

From a guy in a youtube video:

"You hear a lot of men complain that women behave like spoiled brats.
And women do behave like spoiled brats.
But we, as men, did that.
If you’re a woman and go to tinder and swipe yes a 100 times, you’ll have 80 dudes on the hook of which ten have sent you their dick.

Imagine you would be a woman for one day.
One day and you know 80 percent of everyone standing around you wants to fuck you.
Of course you become arrogant, of course you become spoiled and selective.
And of course you’ll try to see how many hoops you can get them to jump through before you'll fuck them."

There you go.

Which excuses them to act like giant disrespectful bitches and hookers everywhere? Got it.

[MagsJ]

Honestly us men are just happy or content to have some poon to pound before falling asleep at night and then having that same poon making us breakfast in the morning where afterwards pounding the snatch once again before going to work. Men are easily made happy in contrast to women, or at least I am anyways.

..a typical man, then? Nothing wrong with that setup, if all involved are content with it, and that’s what matters most.. what setup is preferable, at that time, as it might change over time when that setup stops serving it’s initial purpose.

[MagsJ]

Women prefer to bet on a tried and true horse than risk themselves with one unproven or unfamiliar.

Men who are happily married are very, very rare, and thus highly desired by women.

A happily married man to a woman, is like a supermodel hottie chick to men.

What woman in her right mind would want a married man?

Rare are the women and men who stay in their right mind when desire announces itself.
Married men emanate the evident power of having been able to attract a life-mate. Biology is programmed to select for such clues.
Reason is overruled by lust, which is the strong arm of that more ancient reason, to get ones DNA perpetuated.
Our DNA is doing most of our thinking. Our brain is the engine, not the idea-generator.

I just know that that’s not for me.. a Scorpio thing perhaps?

Each to their own..

[Urwrongx1000]

What woman in her right mind would want a married man?

Isn't it obvious, 90% of the most attractive types are "taken" already, yes?

Those who are most attractive, men or women, have the highest competition to get to them.

[MagsJ]

What woman in her right mind would want a married man?

Isn't it obvious, 90% of the most attractive types are "taken" already, yes?

Yeah.. they marry young, in their early to mid-20s, and then make like their available when the drudgery and boredom of their marriage sets in.. that’s not to say they’ve stopped loving their wife, but that they want to experience the newness of a relationship again. Hey, if it works for some..

Those who are most attractive, men or women, have the highest competition to get to them.

That is undeniably true, and all sounds very tiring. Some definitely enjoy the attention and being fought over, and some don’t.. though I met an unattractive engaged lady, who’s attractive fiancé was marrying her for that reason.. because he thought she would be faithful by default, but that first day we met her, she told us that she knew he was marrying her for that reason but that little did he know she was sleeping with a different guy or two most nights but he could never find out because he would leave her. I think she did it to spite him, to show herself that other men wanted her, despite what he thought.