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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Zero_Sum » Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:23 pm

Urwrongx1000 wrote:
Zero_Sum wrote:Economic utility and security are one in the same.

They're not, a weak rich man is not attractive to women compared to a strong poor man.


She will go with the rich weak man, bank on it. :lol: 8)
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby MagsJ » Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:30 pm

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Fixed Cross wrote:What? Who says he cuck-harlot thing is necessary? Thats a sad form of idealism and certainly not true to experience for me.


Romance in the sense Prom described it with NBK is hyperbolic but true. The will to go to the limits of egoic will shared in lust is true love and worth a few sacrifices. If babies come out of it all the more the better but life has to at some point mean something even beyond procreation. Otherwise why procreate in general?

Only noble-minded people can see beyond themselves. And it's rare for a noble male and female to mate. Usually it's noble with ignoble, since ignoble is common and plentiful. A nobleman or nobleman leads his/her ignoble partner and mate. I also agree that 'proper' forms of love and romance, come from the noble-minded, not from the commonplace. As Zero points-out, "love and romance", to the common, is something disgraceful, uninspiring, base, like prostitution, reducing mating to a financial transaction. The difference, though, is that Zero will claim that any "noble" approach is mere romantic idealism, significant of nothing else than vanity. He has a point. There's no denying biology. And, depending on how cynical/skeptical/nihilistic you want to be, you can always see fault in the mating-process, or the truth through the lies of seduction.

To me, personally, that doesn't make anything meaningless or purposeless. It's still necessary. And the artistic expressions, the unique forms of seduction, are important, purposeful, and inspirational.


A female's concept of love is prostitution, that's the entire point of this thread. She doesn't love the man for his individual character or what he values, she only loves or values a man in what he can give to her.

A female's love or value for a man is pure economic utility and nothing else. A woman is mentally incapable in valuing a man any other way for the most part. There are minor exceptions of course but they're miniscule compared to the social norm.

Most men want to believe a woman will love them for who they are but that is fantasy and fiction to the actual sexual selection process on the part of women. In reality you're just a material provider and nothing else dumped within a second's thought for another if they feel you can no longer provide. Women are purely dumb fucking primitive creatures beyond all that lipstick, designer clothes, perfume, and mascara.


You seem to be talking from experience.. are you?

What has pertained to you, does not pertain to.. anyone I god damn know! Why are you tainting us with your experiences..? Da fuck man! Stop spoiling peoples’ sexy vibes and feels.. let others experience there’s first hand, fresh and new.. let love shine.. like a beacon.. a beacon of sexy feels and loves. :D
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:42 pm

Zero_Sum wrote:She will go with the rich weak man, bank on it. :lol: 8)

I don't think you've met many rich weak men. They are repulsive, especially to women. What you are suggesting is the equivalent to "would you stick your dick into a blender for ten million dollars". The answer is, No. No matter how much money you offer, an average man, will not stick his dick into a blender. You might convince a few, who will then do it. Just like there are a few women, desperate enough to tolerate a rich weak man. Those few examples, are not a reflection of the norm or average. Furthermore, a mountain of wealth, are usually acquired, to compensate for weak and repulsive traits, in the first place.
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby MagsJ » Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:59 pm

Urwrongx1000 wrote:A male starts acting like a "beta, cuck, whipped" cowtowing to a woman. A female starts acting like a slut and harlot, appealing to a man.

..and this anecdote is reflective of your experiences.. prove me wrong? :)
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:04 am

MagsJ wrote:..and this anecdote is reflective of your experiences.. prove me wrong? :)

Are you going to dress in a Burka to impress the man you like? C'mon Magsj, you know you won't. I think we both know to what lengths you or I would go to appeal to the target of our affection.
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Fixed Cross » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:19 am

Zero_Sum wrote:
Urwrongx1000 wrote:
Zero_Sum wrote:Economic utility and security are one in the same.

They're not, a weak rich man is not attractive to women compared to a strong poor man.


She will go with the rich weak man, bank on it. :lol: 8)

Not if the poor guy knows how to handle her, if she is a kitten this will mean a lot to her. She has no use for her expensive wardrobe if she cant be properly fucked in it. She needs someone at least to do it for her and it wont most likely be er Saturday sugar daddy who pays her to sit on his face or god forbid, shit in his mouth.
Chances are she might take her whoring money and pay the poor guys rent.
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Zero_Sum » Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:56 am

MagsJ wrote:
You seem to be talking from experience.. are you?

What has pertained to you, does not pertain to.. anyone I god damn know! Why are you tainting us with your experiences..? Da fuck man! Stop spoiling peoples’ sexy vibes and feels.. let others experience there’s first hand, fresh and new.. let love shine.. like a beacon.. a beacon of sexy feels and loves. :D


Uh-huh......

So do you accept check, Bitcoin, cash, credit, or debit for your social company and other services? :lol:

Just kidding though because no offense but I don't care much for dark skinned women where that is pretty much a moot point for me. Not being mean when I say that as you seem like a legitimately nice woman but I have my preferences. I like my women as pale as white milk or snow minus albinos.

You don't have to worry about me ever banging on your front door. :wink:
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Zero_Sum » Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:03 am

Urwrongx1000 wrote:
Zero_Sum wrote:She will go with the rich weak man, bank on it. :lol: 8)

I don't think you've met many rich weak men. They are repulsive, especially to women. What you are suggesting is the equivalent to "would you stick your dick into a blender for ten million dollars". The answer is, No. No matter how much money you offer, an average man, will not stick his dick into a blender. You might convince a few, who will then do it. Just like there are a few women, desperate enough to tolerate a rich weak man. Those few examples, are not a reflection of the norm or average. Furthermore, a mountain of wealth, are usually acquired, to compensate for weak and repulsive traits, in the first place.


Whatever you say bud, I know better and I'm going to have to disagree with you.

Every time I go out in public now there is a woman in her twenties with small children going out with a fat slob or older guy. Why is that? Because they have money, that's why.

Believe what you wish and keep on holding out hope as a poor low income guy a woman will finally take notice of you. Protip: They won't even bother.

Every time I hear a woman say, "But it's not about the money!", I immediately know they're full of shit and lying.
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Zero_Sum » Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:22 am

Next upcoming topic for discussion, "The rise, peak, and collapse of sexual market based systems".

Stay in tune for tomorrow's discussion. :evilfun:

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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby MagsJ » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:17 am

Urwrongx1000 wrote:
MagsJ wrote:..and this anecdote is reflective of your experiences.. prove me wrong? :)

Are you going to dress in a Burka to impress the man you like?

C'mon Magsj, you know you won't. I think we both know to what lengths you or I would go to appeal to the target of our affection.

Then if you know, you know.. I think I know, I know what you mean..

I know what those burka-wearing women wear under those burkas.. it’s enough to make even you, a grown man, blush.. never underestimate the power of the burka, or should that be, what lies beneath..
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby MagsJ » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:28 am

Zero_Sum wrote:Just kidding though because no offense but I don't care much for dark skinned women where that is pretty much a moot point for me. Not being mean when I say that as you seem like a legitimately nice woman but I have my preferences. I like my women as pale as white milk or snow minus albinos.

You don't have to worry about me ever banging on your front door. :wink:

Haha thanks, but no offence taken.. I’m all about da personal preferences too.. anything less just wouldn’t be right.

..a good-looking albino, is still a a good-looking person none-the-less :D funnily enough.. my nephew’s friend that I was flirting with a couple of weeks back is so as-white-as-can-be that my sister/my nephew’s aunt called him an albino.. but she was being mean to him because he started annoying her. :lol: Perhaps I should have reminded her of her first boyfriend.. he was very pale and very ginger.
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Dan~ » Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:21 pm

Please no porns. I went and deleted some.
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Zero_Sum » Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:26 pm

Dan~ wrote:Please no porns. I went and deleted some.


How exactly was it porn? I took pornographic images and put stamps on them essentially blocking the naughty bits out. :-k

Then some of it was paintings that showed nudity in terms of art, you got something against classical art?
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Zero_Sum » Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:29 pm

He deleted an oil painting of a woman's vagina. :lol:

[Not pornography by the way.]

Somebody needs to explain to Dan what pornography is and isn't.
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Zero_Sum » Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:31 pm

MagsJ wrote:
Zero_Sum wrote:Just kidding though because no offense but I don't care much for dark skinned women where that is pretty much a moot point for me. Not being mean when I say that as you seem like a legitimately nice woman but I have my preferences. I like my women as pale as white milk or snow minus albinos.

You don't have to worry about me ever banging on your front door. :wink:

Haha thanks, but no offence taken.. I’m all about da personal preferences too.. anything less just wouldn’t be right.

..a good-looking albino, is still a a good-looking person none-the-less :D funnily enough.. my nephew’s friend that I was flirting with a couple of weeks back is so as-white-as-can-be that my sister/my nephew’s aunt called him an albino.. but she was being mean to him because he started annoying her. :lol: Perhaps I should have reminded her of her first boyfriend.. he was very pale and very ginger.


I love gingers, beautiful pale women with red hair as far as I'm concerned are the gold standard of all women.

Below is something like my dream woman for me.

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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Zero_Sum » Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:45 pm

MagsJ wrote:Lololol.. I earn that myself in my day job, but if a guy wants to pay a female’s way, then that’s his choice, no? Then they can make babies, and his earnings will go to bringing up their family.

And they lived happily ever after. :D


Ah, you're one of those single wealthy climbing up the ladder social professional career women.

What's interesting about wealthy women going by statistics or various studies is that they are definitely women that refuse to date down where collectively they demand to date men even more wealthier than they are. I think a study I read said something like 85% of wealthy single women are like this.

Of which once again only asserts and proves my overall sexual market dynamic assertions. :wink:
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby MagsJ » Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:28 am

Zero_Sum wrote:I love gingers, beautiful pale women with red hair as far as I'm concerned are the gold standard of all women.

Below is something like my dream woman for me.

https://i.imgur.com/KXIag7U.jpg[/img]

You could always ask Wendy to dye her hair? :)


Zero_Sum wrote:Ah, you're one of those single wealthy climbing up the ladder social professional career women.

What's interesting about wealthy women going by statistics or various studies is that they are definitely women that refuse to date down where collectively they demand to date men even more wealthier than they are. I think a study I read said something like 85% of wealthy single women are like this.

Of which once again only asserts and proves my overall sexual market dynamic assertions. :wink:

I’m not gonna argue with the stats 8-[

I am used to earning and spending my own money, so I do refuse to be a member of the group you clump all women together in.
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Zero_Sum » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:46 am

MagsJ wrote:
Zero_Sum wrote:I love gingers, beautiful pale women with red hair as far as I'm concerned are the gold standard of all women.

Below is something like my dream woman for me.

https://i.imgur.com/KXIag7U.jpg[/img]

You could always ask Wendy to dye her hair? :)


Zero_Sum wrote:Ah, you're one of those single wealthy climbing up the ladder social professional career women.

What's interesting about wealthy women going by statistics or various studies is that they are definitely women that refuse to date down where collectively they demand to date men even more wealthier than they are. I think a study I read said something like 85% of wealthy single women are like this.

Of which once again only asserts and proves my overall sexual market dynamic assertions. :wink:

I’m not gonna argue with the stats 8-[

I am used to earning and spending my own money, so I do refuse to be a member of the group you clump all women together in.


Me and Wendy are no longer romantically involved, we haven't been for some time now.

We've become friends instead and have found out that we get along much better that way. I'm single and have been for quite awhile. It was a mutual relationship termination.

Refuse all you want, there's a female demographic for you nonetheless. :-"
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby MagsJ » Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:16 am

Zero_Sum wrote:Me and Wendy are no longer romantically involved, we haven't been for some time now.

We've become friends instead and have found out that we get along much better that way. I'm single and have been for quite awhile. It was a mutual relationship termination.

Refuse all you want, there's a female demographic for you nonetheless. :-"

Sorry to hear that, so just ignore my suggestion about the hair dye, and ignore my not-knowing. #-o

..dare I even ask what female demographic there is for me? This brings to mind the song ‘One, it’s a lonely number’ in regard to me and my self-perceived demographic.
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Zero_Sum » Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:25 am

MagsJ wrote:
Zero_Sum wrote:Me and Wendy are no longer romantically involved, we haven't been for some time now.

We've become friends instead and have found out that we get along much better that way. I'm single and have been for quite awhile. It was a mutual relationship termination.

Refuse all you want, there's a female demographic for you nonetheless. :-"

Sorry to hear that, so just ignore my suggestion about the hair dye, and ignore my not-knowing. #-o

..dare I even ask what female demographic there is for me? This brings to mind the song ‘One, it’s a lonely number’ in regard to me and my self-perceived demographic.


Single weathly professional career woman demographic, many of those women are single or mistresses also.
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby MagsJ » Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:02 am

Zero_Sum wrote:Single weathly professional career woman demographic, many of those women are single or mistresses also.

I’m not that wealthy at all, but thanks for reminding me I’m single :| I guess I don’t put myself ‘out there’ enough to meet any prospective partners, but I guess it ain’t going to happen without effort/effort on my part.

Yea, about that mistress thing.. flipping cheek of guys to brazenly ask that of someone, and sometimes the wife agrees, as better he philander with someone they’ve agreed upon than him picking up randoms.. and you’d think this kinda thing only happens in the movies.
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Zero_Sum » Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:37 am

MagsJ wrote:
Zero_Sum wrote:Single weathly professional career woman demographic, many of those women are single or mistresses also.

I’m not that wealthy at all, but thanks for reminding me I’m single :| I guess I don’t put myself ‘out there’ enough to meet any prospective partners, but I guess it ain’t going to happen without effort/effort on my part.

Yea, about that mistress thing.. flipping cheek of guys to brazenly ask that of someone, and sometimes the wife agrees, as better he philander with someone they’ve agreed upon than him picking up randoms.. and you’d think this kinda thing only happens in the movies.

All of those social arrangements seem terribly complicated, how's that working out for you?

I swear, with professional women of all kinds they just refuse to settle down with any particular guy always chasing that fantasy upper class male day dream of theirs and then when they become old where they're still single basically become bitter old shrews. The kind of bitter old single ladies you see in a grocery store yelling at everybody, you know those kinds.
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:53 am

Zero_Sum wrote:Yes, I have a confirmation bias because I'm a man not some woman with a split between her legs. :lol:
We all have confirmation biases, the question is how much. And if we can whittle away at them.

How's it working for me? Very well actually, I can say today that I have come to understanding women and female nature very well, so much so that I know more about them than they know about themselves.
I think it is possible for each side of the divide to know things about the other side they do not know. IOW men can know things about women they do not realize and vice versa. Some of the more perceptive members of each set might know more than individuals on the other side, even about themselves, since people can be unbelievably ignorant about themselves. In fact you almost get punished, growing up, for noticing who you are, what you think, what you feel and why you think and feel these ways.

It's not just sexual intercourse and my longing desire of it as a man with women I'm interested in,
Just so it's clear, I didn't assume that.
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby MagsJ » Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:48 pm

Zero_Sum wrote:All of those social arrangements seem terribly complicated, how's that working out for you?

Well it obviously isn’t.. working out for me, because I’ve already stated.. I ain’t about that life, so the options that males are putting to me.. are not my ideal, nor do they align with my principles/my inbuilt directives. Just call me I, Robot.. or maybe just perhaps RoboMags.


I swear, with professional women of all kinds they just refuse to settle down with any particular guy always chasing that fantasy upper class male day dream of theirs and then when they become old where they're still single basically become bitter old shrews. The kind of bitter old single ladies you see in a grocery store yelling at everybody, you know those kinds.

:lol:

Is it just about that? about class and money and lifestyle-maintenance.. because it seems to me that that female demographic are there already.. all by themselves and under their own steam. It is those mistress-seeking men, who married young, and then realise they’re missing out, when they see these self-made females with probably more ideal qualities than in that whom they married. I think that’s a fact.
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Re: There is no such thing as love or romance.

Postby MagsJ » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:24 pm

“The wise woman patterns her life on the theory and practice of modern banking. She never gives her love, but only lends it on the best security and at the highest rate of interest.” — Toulouse Lautrec
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