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Re: Misconceptions about the far-right.

Postby Gloominary » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:14 am

So if your culture values academic achievement more than another culture, that wouldn't have implications for your cultures academic achievement?
Or if your culture values shooting hoops more than another culture, that wouldn't have implications for b-ball?
It's totally irrelevant?
A culture that values freedom is as likely to be free as a culture that values obedience?
A culture that values equality between the sexes isn't anymore likely to have equality between the sexes?

Of course this is insane.
Why would values matter individually, but not collectively?
If you've been conditioned to only see things individually by the education system, MSM and political establishment, which don't operate in a vacuum, but are funded by special interests, then that's how you'll see them, unless you're naturally inclined to think for yourself, which apparently most aren't.
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Re: Misconceptions about the far-right.

Postby promethean75 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:28 am

My crew will fuck nazis up and do voodoo shit on their bones.


voodoo? Puh-leeze. I command the fucking shai-hulud.

do you really think you could bear the kwisatz haderach?
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Re: Misconceptions about the far-right.

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:29 am

You watched that goddamn movie?

Jodorowski was gonna make a masterpiece.

I think Jodorowski is a commie too, he's into that anti-mason shit.
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Re: Misconceptions about the far-right.

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:10 am

Fair questions.

Prom, care to answer????
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Re: Misconceptions about the far-right.

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:14 am

European ideologies are very distinct from the rest of the world because Europeans are internally-divided, whereas other cultures and civilizations are not really. European infighting, for all of its negative effects and consequences, has produced severe advancements of technology, industry, warfare, innovation, creativity, culture, music, and all other enjoyable aspects of life that 99.9% take advantage of and value highly, everyday. Running water, electricity, hygiene, do you enjoy them? If "philosophy doesn't matter" then neither do all the foundations you stand upon. I know it's not a serious indictment, but it's insulting regardless, to pretend as-if there were not a history behind and underneath almost all human "Progression", and I don't mean political Modern progression, but classically, the difference between wiping your ass with pinecones instead of toilet paper and flushable toilets.
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Re: Misconceptions about the far-right.

Postby Gloominary » Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:51 am

If 20 people are pushing some antiwhite, antimale progressive policy, you can bet your bottom dollar at least 10, if not 12 or 15 of them will turn out to be Jewish, despite Jews only comprising 2% of the population.
Wherever there is monetary fraud, wherever there are false flags, wherever there are lies in the media, the tribe is not far off.
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Re: Misconceptions about the far-right.

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:08 am

When and why did the Christian Church stop viewing usury as a sin?

NO DENOMINATION of the Christian Church has ever condoned usury, which we might define as an extortionate charge for the use of money or fungible goods, but the charging of interest is no longer regarded as usurious in all circumstances. In fact there is no direct condemnation of interest-taking in the New Testament; it is even tolerated in the Parable of the Talents. The Old Testament authority - Exodus 22:25, Leviticus 25:35, and Deuteronomy 20:19 - does not constitute a blanket ban on interest-taking, but condemns taking interest from the poor, and within the Jewish community. The taking of interest was forbidden to clerics from AD 314. It was strictly forbidden for laymen in 1179. The beginning of the end as far as the total ban on interest was concerned came in the sixteenth century. Although Luther and Zwingli still condemned it utterly, Calvin and some progressive Catholic thinkers such as Collet and Antoine argued that interest-taking did not constitute usury, as long as it represented the real difference between the value of present and future sums of money, and was not mere extortion. The Catholic Church still forbids usury, meaning extortionate charges, providing penalties in c2354 of the Code of Canon Law, but this does not mean that all interest-taking is sinful. The Vatican itself invests in interest-bearing schemes, and requires Church administrators to do likewise. That all interest was not in itself sinful was finally decided in a series of decisions in the institutions of the Catholic Church in the nineteenth century.
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I DON'T think Gwen Seabourne should be allowed to get away with her anodyne answer. That the Christian Church banned usury for many centuries is not invalidated by reference to the Bible (family planning is not disallowed in the Bible). Nor can usury be defined as the extortionate charging of interest: usury is the charging of any interest. The Vatican ties itself up in complex circumlocutions to divert attention from the fact that it runs capitalist institutions based on the most blatant condoning of usury. The verbal acrobatics testify to the contradictory situation it finds itsef in. Usury - all usury - is banned by Christian doctrine, as it is by Muslim doctrine. In the late Middle Ages the problem of financing the royal exchequer and setting up capitalist institutions in the face of the Christian ban on usury was resolved by allowing Jews to act as bankers. They therefore came to be viewed as pariahs, just as cow hide tanners are pariahs in Hindu society. It was in this way that the Jewish community was able to accrue vast wealth and thereby to bring down on its head the loathing of the Christians. Hence Shylock. This enmity is still the underlying basis of modern anti-Semitism. The fact that (mainly) Jewish bankers did very well out of the collapse of free-market economics in Weimar Germany was the determining reality in the rise of Hitler and the Nazi movement. Gwen Seabourne states that the Catholic Church still forbids usury. That's good enough for me.
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"The beginning of the end as far as the total ban on interest was concerned came in the sixteenth century." is too vague for my liking. Are we talking about a Papal ban? and when exactly was it lifted?
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The question is: "When and why did the Christian Church stop viewing usury as a sin?" The foundation of the Church ( the faithful who believe Yeshua is Lord ) is found in His very Word: "And if you lend to those from whom you hope to receive back, what credit is that to you? For even sinners lend to sinners to receive as much back. But love your enemies, do good, and lend, hoping for nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High. For He is kind to the unthankful and evil. Therefore be merciful, just as your Father also is merciful." - Luke 6:34-36 "Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you.” - Luke 6:38 It goes so far as not considering a loan to be repaid, but to be considered gift!! The Lord teaches His faithful to be generous, even to those who are not your brother or sister... it is a high bar of living this earthly life He has set. Usury / charging of interest heads into the opposite direction of His kingdom.
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Re: Misconceptions about the far-right.

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:25 am

I believe in every "Society", every human grouping, no matter how large or small, in every sub-culture, there is a "drinking of the kool-aid".

You have to drink the poison of the group to show to others that you are loyal, that you are willing to harm yourself to benefit the whole. This is equivalent to a den of thieves who must all take a cut from revenue of stolen-goods. If you aren't willing to get your hands dirty, then you are shunned, will be expelled or worse, sometimes killed, depending on the sub-grouping. With Abrhamics, Jews and Christians, and Moslems, they all partake in the "same kool-aid". And although there are distinct and severe antagonisms between the Mainline pop-religions, the Monotheistic and Absolute Tyrant of "One God" (and none others), the core institution and foundation of Abrahamic ideology is undisturbed. These are Messianic ideologies, propagating 'meme' before gene. Thus, according to Abrahamism, as it is in many sub-cultures, you are expected to remain loyal to the group, before your own Kin. This is true in any syndicate. If you betray a syndicate, then not only is your own life in danger, but your family as well.

The insidious nature of Abrahamism: Christianity, Judaism, Islam, is no joke, no laughing matter, and a very serious consideration. Most are 'tainted' by their participation in world history and events that they don't have the slightest clue or awareness to. And, quite frankly, most people don't care about such things, until "decisions" are made, from Authorities and Representatives within the system, which can cause the whole world (of humanity) to move, shift, or begin war.

Secularism or "Humanism" are extensions of Judæo-Christian institutions, indirect if and when not obvious. But it ought to become obvious, quickly, to anybody with above-average intellect. For example, how can you believe in "The Big Bang" and "Science", which is essentially the exact same postulation as "Creationism" of Abrahamism? Are they not the same theory? Are they not the same postulation? The difference is one is stamped with "Science", the other stamped with "Religion", and those who are "Secular", Scientific, can swallow the pill, thinking they are "smarter, better, more sophisticated, advanced, progressed" versus "religious simpletons". What a ruse?!

My answer is: No. If you are born into an Abrahamic framework, as is Western Civilization, then you are obedient to its premises, in all places whether you are aware or not. Most people are not aware, because they cannot use Philosophy, and have weak forms of Doubt, which disable the average mind, intellect, thinker, to get as far as to understand the foundation and institution itself. The premises are the same: between Christian and Secular thought. Liberal-Leftism, most will claim is "not a religion", yet it acts as a religion, in the same way as Christians and Jews operate. Same rules, slightly different behaviors, but different labels. The Secularists will proclaim "how advanced we are", as-if they are Post-Enlightened, when the premises, methods, and history was never really taken into account.


People can claim to be "non-religious", "atheist", "agnostic", "progressive", or anything else. It doesn't really change the foundation of things, nor everybody's acquiescence and loyalty to this system.

In order to 'Attack' the whole thing, to undermine Abrahamic ideologies, is to put and pit one against Many, against Christians, Jews, and Moslems. And this is no simple nor easy, nor perhaps even rewarding task. To what gain, is it? My answer would be "freedom". If you were to truly desire to "think freely" then you must abandon the premises and composition of the whole system.

Therefore you must ask, Why, do people believe in God(s), which God(s), and what is the true Origin?


Jews and Judaism is easily recognized by Zionist tendencies, and when put to war, loyalty is as easy to measure as Standing Armies, which side you fight on. Subversion is canceled by war. Thus the European warlords, constantly at war, could focus on the "progress" of their own ethnic group, own heritage, own Kin(d), and truly put one's own against others. Post-Modernity does not address this and does not value it. All the memes point to "loyalty to what is not your kind" and "to tolerate" this perverse anti-culture pushed upon everybody. Everybody must drink this kool-aid. And so what will happen when people stop?
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Re: Misconceptions about the far-right.

Postby Zero_Sum » Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:11 pm

Gloominary wrote:Christianity is in decline in the west, its relative absence may make it easier for whites to accept secular or pagan white nationalism someday.


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Re: Misconceptions about the far-right.

Postby promethean75 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:31 am

Are Jews hearty enough to build and maintain a prosperous country of their own?
To be its farmers, miners, tradesmen, truckdrivers, blue collar workers and defenders (obviously they have some farmers and so on, but would it be anywhere near as prosperous without draining the life force of Europeans)?


how do you define 'prosperous'? is it a type of happiness and contentedness, or does it have to do with technological prowess, or health and longevity, or low crime rates, what? a little of everything, i'd say, and in general, yeah, i don't see 'jewish' people being incapable of achieving any of this... environment providing.

and what do you mean by 'draining the life-force'? if you split the world down the middle and gave one half to the 'jews' and the other to the 'europeans', i'd imagine a very similar gross product resulting. but this isn't really a question, because these titles 'european and jew' are incidental to national and/or religious identity, without which you'd have the basic racial category of 'caucasian'. now you can put some caucasians over here and call them 'dastakinanis' and some over there and call them 'gongarian', but this doesn't achieve the more fundamental distinction you're alluding to.

and if there is a cultural war happening between such things as 'jews' and 'europeans', this is entirely and completely historically contingent. there could have very well been a much different course of history that led to circumstances in which this wasn't happening. but that it is happening says more about the incalcuable number of unknown and unaccounted for causes at work here, the least of which would be some 'inherent' characteristic of those who call themselves 'jews' which is to be considered 'responsible' for the outcome. but we like to say 'you're situation sucks because you're a jew,' and be conveniently done with it. but these 'jewish' people are too closely related to others from the racial category 'caucasian' to reduce their circumstances down to some kind of genetic factor that's responsible for it. on the other hand, if we say that their cultural practices have gotten them in the mess they're in... well, there again, such things are contingent and not necessarily reducible to their race.

you'd have to identify some genetic feature in a group of people and be able to say 'in any circumstances, these ass rangers are bound to fuck up', and you can't do that.

now i will agree that 'race is real' (no duh), and i will entertain the notion that the negro race might possess some genetic component(s) which makes their evolutionary movement quite different than the other root races, caucasoid and mongoloid. but these folks are quite different than the ones usually called 'jews', the semitic ethnicities from which they come. so i'm excluding 'jews', who are caucasians, from any interrogation of the negroid race we might fancy at the moment.

your (and zero sum's) problem with the jews is not on the same grounds as your problem with the negrosaurus. not even close. if there is a race or a culture that is a burden on this world's improvement, it would be the negrolopithecus and that shithole africa... and even here there are vast exceptions. plenty of black folks with average-to-above IQs doing legitimate jobs and driving around in SUVs in both african countries and countries dominated by caucasians. so you can mix-and-tune-up the negroid with a little TLC. and those exceptional numbers would be even greater if you abolished capitalist/consumerist culture in the western world. that shit doesn't do anything but pander to their primal instincts to jump around like unruly idiots and get into trouble.
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Re: Misconceptions about the far-right.

Postby Zero_Sum » Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:15 am

With Jews all one needs to know is that they comprise a majority of bankers, financial analysts, brokers, corporate lobbyists, and trading floor people especially here in the United States. When it concerns American crony capitalism American Jews along with their Israeli dual citizenship brethren are at the lead or center of it. That's why I can't help but laugh when American Jews come out saying they have the solution to the ills of crony capitalism considering they have been dominantly instrumental in creating it.

Let's look at other things also, who are the biggest promoters of open borders and foreign immigration? Jews.

Who in Hollywood are the biggest promoters of multiracial or interracial social interactions? Jews.

Who have been the biggest promoters and leaders of radical feminism? Jews.

Who are the biggest promoters of anti-whiteness? Jews.

Who are biggest promoters of attacking traditional family structures? Jews.

Who are the biggest promoters of gun confiscation politically? Jews.

Who are at the forefront of leading the charge against culturally conservative white men even going as far to call all white men as potential domestic terrorists? Jews once again.

So yes, I see Jews waging a propaganda cultural, social, political, sexual, and economic war against western civilization along with all the white European people that reside within it.
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Re: Misconceptions about the far-right.

Postby Zero_Sum » Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:27 am

Pedro I Rengel wrote:
promethean75 wrote:
Sometimes I really forget you are legitimately disgusting.


Now hol up, man. I'ont never tell you what I really think about you and your crew, do I? If I did you'd never speak to me again (if you didn't kill yourself first)... and i can't let that happen because I need you for my experiments.

Hey but yo you and your crew, as reprehensible as it is, is still a notch or two above most folks on the street, so there is that.


You're playing with fire holmes.

My crew will fuck nazis up and do voodoo shit on their bones.


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Re: Misconceptions about the far-right.

Postby Zero_Sum » Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:35 am

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They suck the life, blood, and prosperity out of entire nations or regions of the world where afterwards go onto moving to new hosts. Their only interests in morality, ethics, and laws is rigging them heavily in favor of themselves for their own benefit while destroying or bringing others down.


because global capitalism has made that possible... not because the 'jews' are intrinsically predisposed to do that. put a jew in 1920 maoist china and he'd behave himself like everyone else. it's only because there happens to be a historically persistent ethnicity, religiously founded, and therefore a formidable presence, that has consistently utilized the opportunity of capitalism to further enrich itself as well as keep its distance as a culture. hell you can't half blame them. the problem isn't the jewish people... it's the silly shit they believe and the capitalistic underhandedness that they have mastered to empower themselves and further augment the stupid shit written in some book by semi-literate bronze-age desert tribesmen, that they believe. the jewish situation isn't tragic... it's comical... but that's from my particular anarchist perspective. the problem is capitalism... or what would become in the hands of the so called jewish communists, 'state capitalism', which is nothing but a ruse to cover their nationalism.

no but i like jewish people as much as anyone else. they're no dumber than the christians, muslims, hindus, or buddhists. it's just a different kind of dumb, that's all.

in fact i once dated a jewish princess, believe it or not.


Dude, do you even know how many Jews comprise of modern day political neoconservatives and crony capitalists? :lol:

Jews will play all political sides dividing everybody against each other whether people are communist or capitalist politically, it just doesn't matter either way. At the end of the day they're purely self serving for people amongst their own in-group only. They're certainly not loyal to any particular ideology, they'll utilize any ideology to their own tactical advantage in suppressing other groups of people that are not of them.

If I can think of any people on this earth that utilize pure brutal or cutthroat opportunism it would be Jews. In some ways I admire their savage ruthlessness but I can't entirely especially seeing the devastation that they cause. Their collective ruthlessness against everybody else is always their undoing historically and it's interesting that as a group they never seem to learn from that. That is their collective Achilles heel, it always has been. It will be their undoing once again.
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Re: Misconceptions about the far-right.

Postby Zero_Sum » Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:50 am

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Yes, but your reactions as a nihilist are a bit surprising since in your world moralizing is irrelevant or redundant, right? Yet you're acting all politically correct concerning the plight of the Jews as if theirs is your own.


i'm de-moralizing the matter by defusing it of its philosophical and ideological foundations. in doing so i'm not saying you shouldn't stand by your values... only that you ought not try to justify them on philosophical grounds... because there are no such grounds.

So the nihilist takes up the common position of the United States during world war II being the 'good' guys?


but there aren't any bad guys in war, really. just guys killing each other in a field somewhere. but regarding WW2, i'd side with the corporatist nations (fascist) before the free market capitalist nations because the interests of the working classes would be my primary concern. corporatism is a step toward the proletarian dictatorship, while free market capitalism is every effort to prevent this.

Are you sure you're still not an anarcho communist? Because you sound like one to me. For some reason the word nihilist just doesn't suit you Zoot.


yeah i know. there needs to be a whole new 'position' to characterize my standing. imma mix of all kinds of shit, bro... some of it even diametrically opposed. it's fuckin retarded.

i wuz gonna found a school and invent my own designer philosophy, but i can't get enough time off of work to do it.


Justification is all in the eye of the beholder and so is philosophy as well. You should know better Zoot.

Demoralizing, why would a nihilist even bother with that at all? 8)

Interesting, and if war occurred between international communists versus national fascists, whose side would you align with? 8)

Still living a life as a solitary ascetic of self discovery? Well, when you finally figure out your position on everything do let curious people here know exactly what that is. 8)

Nihilism seems fun and exciting at first but what you'll find is that it is a lonely road to nowhere. It is a dead end road of uncertainty. Eventually you will grow weary of this existential uncertainty where you will desire some kind of grounded clarity once again, this is what happened with me anyways which is why I no longer wear the mantle of being a nihilist.
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Re: Misconceptions about the far-right.

Postby Zero_Sum » Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:04 am

Gloominary wrote:
Zero_Sum wrote:I don't just hate Jews, no I've studied their religion, culture, and beliefs quite extensively. If you're going to have a formidable enemy or adversary to contend with it takes a bit of reconnaissance in studying absolutely everything about them including their weaknesses to exploit.

At any rate, if you study the Talmud or rabbinical writings they truly believe that as God's chosen people it is their divine right to inherit the entire earth to rule from Jerusalem with the coming of the mashiach.

So really it is no surprise why they favor open borders, globalism, and the breaking down of nationalism everywhere because they literally believe God is going to give them the entire world on a silver platter which will become theirs to do whatever they see fit. Yet discussing the Jewish religion none of this ever comes into the public spotlight.

Judaism and Islam aren't just religions, they're blueprints for global enslavement.
Judaism and Islam, along with Zionist Christianity, are cults and hate groups, if ever there were any, and ideally should officially be classified as such.
So long as we restore a 90-99% white majority, I can live with other minorities, but I can't live with Jews and Muslims.
It'd be like Jews and Muslims tolerating white supremacists in their homelands.
We wouldn't expect them to, and they shouldn't expect us to tolerate them.


Of course, the very first philosophical equivalents of globalism, open borders, one-world-government, and the destruction of nationality can all be found within the Abrahamic religions. Maybe that is why ancient imperial Rome was so quick to adopt Christianity within their ambitions of global territorial conquest. 8)

I'm reminded of the pagan Gnostics that referred to the Abrahamic God as the evil demiurge. Fascinating if you ever get a chance to read their perceptions on things. Of course the early Christian church was quick to savagely murder, slaughter, and persecute Gnostics everywhere as religious heresy. A subject and conversation for another day perhaps.
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Re: Misconceptions about the far-right.

Postby Zero_Sum » Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:23 am

Urwrongx1000 wrote:Consider White-Jews, for a moment.

The matter is very complex. Jews, historically and traditionally, have intermixed heavily into specific European groups, and in the US, many Anglo-Jewish intermarriage has already occurred. Traditionally, Jews could not really infiltrate Catholicism as Catholics still have Graeco-Roman roots and loyalty to Rome/Italy. Thus Zionism is a dubious marriage with Southern Europeans. Thus, Jews infiltrated and spread into West and Northern Europe, eventually leading to World War II since they were ultimately rejected by core Germanic people. However, Jews used the opportunity to intermarry into 'Protestant' Christian families and ethnic groupings. In the US, Jewish-Anglo marriages are common and pervasive, and again a synthesis of 'Christian' and 'Jewish' genes and memes, culture and society, politics and religion. This is why, when I say "Abrahamism" I'm grouping Christians and Jews into their synthesized version "Judaeo-Christian". Historically, it is a mimicry and (per)version of the Graeco-Roman relationship. It stems from the historic 'Master' classes versus the historic 'Slave'/Under classes. This is from whence Jewish resentiment (for Europeans and Gentiles) originates, specifically against the Romans who, repeatedly, sacked, plundered, "stole", conquered, re-conquered, and re-took Jerusalem and then imposed their own (Roman) rule over. The lack of Jewish military, historically, meant that Jerusalem/Israel/Zion would always be susceptible to major (foreign) world-powers. Since Jews could not break this by physical-force, then turned to "Magical" force, Biblical Prophesy, Education/Indoctrination, and then finally to inter-marriage.

Jews cannot infiltrate societies in which it is illegal for a population to inter-marry with Jewish people. This is why China does not have a significant 'Jewish' population, because East Asians are explicitly "Racist" and perhaps more-so than any other nation or group of people on Earth. If anybody is truly "Xenophobic" then it would be the severely Introverted East Asians.

However, the historic and traditional intermarriage, I believe, has benefited Western culture and civilization. Although the Jewish Mercantilism maybe considered "evil", unfair, unjust, by normal Gentile standards, it has syphoned world money and banks to Anglo-America. Because Jews are loyal to Zionist policies. And because US Christians are pro-Zionist, mostly (especially Evangelicals), Jews would rather have and hold money in the Western Hemisphere, where it is essentially safe from worldwide upheaval, than say, Central Europe (dominated by Swiss Banks) or Russia (dominated and controlled by the Kremlin, Putin, and Orthodox Christians).


All of this explains much, but, there is always a lack of sophistication in most 'white' groups, or simply, pro-Zionist views underneath. So to speak of any "pro-white" association, or moreso, "white nationals", is a fear and threat to Jews, Zionists, Anglo-Protestants, and many other subsequent groups, who all have been indoctrinated to funnel fear of 'Tyranny' and 'Fascism' into what is viewed as "Far-Right".


You cannot reason with a group of people that want to see your racial, cultural, tribal, and ethnic group wiped out from existence. The Jews have declared war on us white Europeans and our nations everywhere, we did not start this war of aggression, they did.

It's kinda hard to reason and negotiate with a people politically or diplomatically that want to see you dead.

Notice there are no Jews speaking out against other Jews in all of this, why is that?

Why isn't there a single influential Jew criticizing the actions of their own people in any meaningful way?

As for Judaism itself it is a religion completely devoted to world domination and the idea of a world government centered in Jerusalem. [With the coming of the Jewish messiah and for all the Christians observing this thread, who is definitely not Jesus.] Why is this never discussed within the public mainstream?

If Jews weren't so hostile and aggressive towards white Europeans that are not Jewish religiously I would have no problem with them, yet up until this point of history they have collectively shown nothing but hostility or aggression towards us. That cannot be ignored and if that makes me an anti-semite so be it.
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Re: Misconceptions about the far-right.

Postby Zero_Sum » Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:44 am

promethean75 wrote:yes and that's why the jews have the reputation of being underhanded. in contrast to something like rome which had a complete military, the jews were seen as the terrorists... and terrorism is the surgical strike capability of oppressed people... people who can't fight a real war openly. the jews became guerillas on that account and fought with whatever means available. economically, ideologically, philosophically, religiously, what have you.

and to make matters worse for the poor bastards... and everyone else for that matter... the entire world would soon come to believe that these weren't just megalomaniacal morons who thought they were selected by divine edict to rule the world, but that they were also a full frontal assault on a value system and totally fabulous way of life called 'hellenism'. but get this; if you put a hundred million jews on a plot of land and gave them a civilization with all its usual institutions and modes of production, you'd not know what they believed in unless you asked. the system would be just as functional as any other system, and, for all intents and purposes, there would be no critically important distinction between jewish and hellenistic values. and this is because values are derived from the material modes of production, exchange/distribution and consumption, not vice-versa.

so, for example, it wouldn't matter how many gods you believed in, or if you believed in none, or if you had a particularly unique custom or practice in your culture that others didn't have. if the social organization of those above three processes are stable, it duddint matter what the fuck you believe in and all your ideas become arbitrary. ideology comes after stablization of these modes, and usually follows the direction given to it by the dominant class (see gramsci).

so in our hypothetical model here we see a civilization of jews instead of a civilization of romans doing damn near the same shit. what, you think people who believe philosophical bullshit x aren't capable of sustaining a functioning civilization with all the same pros and cons of any other system? it wasn't the bullshit the romans or the jews believed that would grant them the ability to prosper. it was the infrastructure fined tuned around the modes of production, and the final superstructure this resulted in. if a group of people don't prosper, it ain't because they're beliving the wrong shit. hell, the entire western hemisphere believes the wrong shit and they're doing great (more or less). this is what i'm tellin you; philosophy, religion, ideology don't mean or do shit. all this is a luxury afforded through the relative success of the material relations of a people and its society. big wealthy societies produce the possibility of philosophical genius; enter post-industrial europe. but that philosophical genius isn't what got them there, see. that shit's speculative entertainment. it was the elbow grease and the scientific experimentation with an abundance of tangible materials that got them there. and trust me, the power of imagination that brought about all these novel ideas wasn't philosophical either. engineers and mathematicians made shit work, not philosophers. i mean they mighta been philosophers too, but that isn't what inspired them, because language games can't inspire.

there are no jews and there are no romans. these are names for collections of ideas... spooks, to speak with max.


And just look how those innocent victimized Jews treat Palestinians in the Gaza strip or their neighbors all throughout the Middle East and how they collectively shriek pointing it out beating the dead horse of Nazi Germany as if to absolve them of all their current crimes across the globe. :lol:

I have no sympathy for them whatsoever, they're wolves in sheep clothing. Fuck their victim complex the world over as far as I'm concerned. There's a reason why they've been kicked out of 129 different nations historically, there is simply no coexisting with them. Those that try to coexist with them peacefully end up regretting it sooner or later as they always unilaterally try to usurp other nations politically and economically. Jews themselves don't even know how to coexist with others and it seems very obvious they're incapable themselves.

Look at England or Canada example, English and Canadian soldiers supposedly liberated them from concentration camps in World War II, how does organized global Jewry repay them for their historical generosity fighting on their behalf? By flooding both nations with endless foreign immigration to make white English or Canadian populations new ethnic minorities. If that is how Jews treat their so called friends or political allies, who needs enemies? 8)
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Re: Misconceptions about the far-right.

Postby Zero_Sum » Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:57 am

Pedro I Rengel wrote:"the jews became guerillas on that account and fought with whatever means available. economically, ideologically, philosophically, religiously, what have you. "

Sometimes I really forget you are legitimately disgusting.

You do realize that when people say "philosophically," they mean socialism.


What organized global Jewry is doing to Venezuela you would think Pedro would be understanding but no, he's another Jewish apologist just like all the other Kool-Aid drinkers.
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Re: Misconceptions about the far-right.

Postby Zero_Sum » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:00 am

Pedro I Rengel wrote:It is forded in a nano-second though. Watch the fuck out blood.


Watch out, we have a real badass here. :lol: 8)
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Re: Misconceptions about the far-right.

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:03 am

Zero_Sum wrote:You cannot reason with a group of people that want to see your racial, cultural, tribal, and ethnic group wiped out from existence.

I agree. And that's something that differentiates immature and childish philosophy from mature and adult, more responsible thinking. Some people simply cannot be reasoned with, and should not be reasoned with.

One thing not talked about, although it should be talked about, was the "Catholic Solution" to Jewry in Roman history. Convert (to Christianity), or Die. After the Catholics forced conversions of Jews (to Christianity), they then practiced and imposed this against Pagans throughout Europe. This was essentially the heart of the "Dark Age". It was "dark", to Jews, Pagans, and Protestants. It was not dark, to Catholics, who ruled European civilization with an Iron-fist, through dogma, controlled education and information, absolute tyranny, totalitarianism, and ultimate Theocracy.

I'm sure there are other examples in history too. Islam certainly does it more recently, and today, yet none of the "LGBTQ activists, feminists, human rights secularists, etc" speak against it. Irony? Coincidence? Not so much, Islam and Moslems are more fanatical, more Zealotry, than America's radicals.

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Re: Misconceptions about the far-right.

Postby Zero_Sum » Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:36 am

Urwrongx1000 wrote:
Zero_Sum wrote:You cannot reason with a group of people that want to see your racial, cultural, tribal, and ethnic group wiped out from existence.

I agree. And that's something that differentiates immature and childish philosophy from mature and adult, more responsible thinking. Some people simply cannot be reasoned with, and should not be reasoned with.

One thing not talked about, although it should be talked about, was the "Catholic Solution" to Jewry in Roman history. Convert (to Christianity), or Die. After the Catholics forced conversions of Jews (to Christianity), they then practiced and imposed this against Pagans throughout Europe. This was essentially the heart of the "Dark Age". It was "dark", to Jews, Pagans, and Protestants. It was not dark, to Catholics, who ruled European civilization with an Iron-fist, through dogma, controlled education and information, absolute tyranny, totalitarianism, and ultimate Theocracy.

I'm sure there are other examples in history too. Islam certainly does it more recently, and today, yet none of the "LGBTQ activists, feminists, human rights secularists, etc" speak against it. Irony? Coincidence? Not so much, Islam and Moslems are more fanatical, more Zealotry, than America's radicals.

More radical than radical. Sometimes this is a solution too.


That didn't work as the Spanish Jews went underground pretending to be Catholic publicly while practicing Judaism privately.

Christianity? Meh....

As for modern Islam Mossad Jews teach themselves Iranian linguistically and learn how to pass themselves off as Muslim for infiltration spy or assassination units. True story, look it up.

You cannot convert shape shifters man.
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Re: Misconceptions about the far-right.

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:06 am

I think Catholics did it best.

You're right; even though converted most Jews were still Zionists at heart in the blood. Catholics also knew this, as they kept tabs on all members of their society, recording who was married to whom, which books were being checked out from the library by whom, total information control. Roman Catholics were/are the badasses of history. Totalitarianism is, perhaps, the best method of keeping Jewry in-check. However this came with the territory. When you conquer Jerusalem with your armies multiple times, you have to learn the nature of your enemies.

This is also why the Judæo-Christian alliance is strong today, because of the inter-marriage and mixing of blood over time. Jews learned from Christians. And Christians learned from Jews, over the Millenniums. Pagans/Protestants are a wildcard, neither here nor there, and coming much 'later' in history to civilization and culled into the fold.

The Anglo/Puritan/Protestant-Jewish alliance, today, Post-Modernity, is an enigma. The consequences are yet to be seen.
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Re: Misconceptions about the far-right.

Postby Gloominary » Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:13 pm

Zero_Sum wrote:
Gloominary wrote:
Zero_Sum wrote:I don't just hate Jews, no I've studied their religion, culture, and beliefs quite extensively. If you're going to have a formidable enemy or adversary to contend with it takes a bit of reconnaissance in studying absolutely everything about them including their weaknesses to exploit.

At any rate, if you study the Talmud or rabbinical writings they truly believe that as God's chosen people it is their divine right to inherit the entire earth to rule from Jerusalem with the coming of the mashiach.

So really it is no surprise why they favor open borders, globalism, and the breaking down of nationalism everywhere because they literally believe God is going to give them the entire world on a silver platter which will become theirs to do whatever they see fit. Yet discussing the Jewish religion none of this ever comes into the public spotlight.

Judaism and Islam aren't just religions, they're blueprints for global enslavement.
Judaism and Islam, along with Zionist Christianity, are cults and hate groups, if ever there were any, and ideally should officially be classified as such.
So long as we restore a 90-99% white majority, I can live with other minorities, but I can't live with Jews and Muslims.
It'd be like Jews and Muslims tolerating white supremacists in their homelands.
We wouldn't expect them to, and they shouldn't expect us to tolerate them.


Of course, the very first philosophical equivalents of globalism, open borders, one-world-government, and the destruction of nationality can all be found within the Abrahamic religions. Maybe that is why ancient imperial Rome was so quick to adopt Christianity within their ambitions of global territorial conquest. 8)

I'm reminded of the pagan Gnostics that referred to the Abrahamic God as the evil demiurge. Fascinating if you ever get a chance to read their perceptions on things. Of course the early Christian church was quick to savagely murder, slaughter, and persecute Gnostics everywhere as religious heresy. A subject and conversation for another day perhaps.

Judaism and Islam are of course similar, one of the key differences being Jews are a clan and a religion (national globalism, one nation rules over the rest), whereas Islam is just a religion (proper globalism).

I'm not sure if Jews are more globalist, or unethical than whites.
The Macedonians, Romans, Spaniards, French, Britons and so on were also globalists.
They had empires spanning multiple continents.

When the European conquers, he does so by having a more sophisticated society, government, economy and military, by having more sophisticated science and tech.
When the Jew conquers, he does so by fraud, with usury and by infiltrating ideologies and religions and subverting them.
The European conquers overtly, the Jew is insidious.

In the 2nd half of the 2nd millennium, Europeans conquered most of the world; Africa, the Americas, Australia and parts of Asia.
We became the most successful race in revealed history (I say revealed, because I believe a lot of history is being concealed, but that is a topic for another day).

What we've been witnessing since 1965 (when the floodgates in the Anglosphere were opened (mass immigration from the 3rd world) and in the beginning of the 1st half of the 3rd millennium is the backlash.
The backlash couldn't come from without, at least not yet, we were too big, so it came from within.
The backlash is being lead by the Jew.

The Jew (when I say the Jew I mean Jews as a whole, of course there're exceptions) is not chiefly an anarchist, communist, feminist, socialist, libertarian or Christian.
These're universalist masks the particularist Jew wears.
Above all the Jew is a Jew and a Zionist.

His chief objectives are to transfer wealth and power from the white proletariat and petty bourgeois to the elite on the one hand, which he disproportionately overrepresents, and to racial, religious and sexual minorities on the other, especially himself.
Now if it was a white elite ruling over us, they'd be corrupt too, many of them would try to transfer wealth and power from us to them (but probably not as starkly as now, because many of them would have some loyalty to us), but they wouldn't transfer our wealth and power to minorities, if anything they'd transfer the wealth and power of minorities to us.
That is the difference + we wouldn't have open borders.

It's a lie, that the world is headed towards globalism.
No only white countries are being globalized, and adopting minoritarianism.
In white countries, minorities are permitted, even encouraged to retain, even rediscover their ethnic identities, to not assimilate (just as the Jew has always kept his wherever he went), while the majority are encouraged to relinquish theirs.
Communism was an attempt by Jews to conquer Eastern Europe and the 3rd world, but it failed, or rather succeeded for a time before failing.

So, what will the outcome be?
If we don't turn things around, become white nationalists, we're destined to become minorities in our own lands and be subjugated by others.
For Europeans, it's not about conquering anymore, those days are long gone, no we'll be lucky to hold onto some of what we have.
We're seeing the social, political, economic and biological decay of Europe.
Other peoples are feasting on our corpse from within.
We are a conquered people, we just don't know it yet.
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Re: Misconceptions about the far-right.

Postby Zero_Sum » Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:17 pm

Gloominary wrote:Judaism and Islam are of course similar, one of the key differences being Jews are a clan and a religion (national globalism, one nation rules over the rest), whereas Islam is just a religion (proper globalism).

I'm not sure if Jews are more globalist, or unethical than whites.
The Macedonians, Romans, Spaniards, Britons and so on were also globalists.
They had empires spanning multiple continents.

When the European conquers, he does so by having a more sophisticated society, government, economy and military, by having more sophisticated science and tech.
When the Jew conquers, he does so by fraud, with usury and by infiltrating ideologies and religions and subverting them.
The European conquers overtly, the Jew is insidious.

In the 2nd half of the 2nd millennium, Europeans conquered most of the world; Africa, the Americas, Australia and parts of Asia.
We became the most successful race in revealed history (I say revealed, because I believe a lot of history is being concealed, but that is a topic for another day).
What we've been witnessing since 1965 (when the floodgates in the Anglosphere were open (mass immigration from the 3rd world) and the in beginning of the 1st half of the 3rd millennium is the backlash.
The backlash couldn't come from without, at least not yet, we were too big, so it came from within.
The backlash is being lead by the Jew.

The Jew (when I say the Jew I mean Jews as a whole, of course there're exceptions) is not chiefly an anarchist, feminist, communist, socialist, libertarian or Christian.
These're universalist masks the particularist Jew wears.
Above all the Jew is a Jew and a Zionist.

His chief objectives are to transfer wealth and power from the white proletariat and petite bourgeois to the elite on the one hand, which he disproportionately overrepresents, and to racial, religious and sexual minorities on the other, especially himself.
Now if it was a white elite ruling over us, they'd be corrupt too, many of them would try to transfer wealth and power from us to them (but probably not as starkly as now, because many of them would have some loyalty to us), but they wouldn't transfer our wealth and power to minorities, if anything they'd transfer the wealth and power of minorities to us.
That is the difference + we wouldn't have open borders.

It's a lie, that the world is headed towards globalism.
No only white countries are being globalized, and adopting minoritarianism.
In white countries, minorities are permitted, even encouraged to keep their ethnic identities, just as the Jew has always kept his wherever he went, to not assimilate.
Communism was an attempt by Jews to conquer Eastern Europe and the 3rd world, but it failed.

So, what will the outcome be?
If we don't turn things around, become white nationalists, we're destined to become minorities in our own lands and be ruled by others.
For Europeans, it's not about conquering anymore, those days are long gone, no we'll be lucky to hold onto some of what we have.
We're seeing the social, political, economic and biological decay of Europe.
Other peoples are feasting on our corpse from within.
We are a conquered people, we just don't know it yet.


Actually, a little unknown fact about Muhammad is that he came from a historically predominant ancient Jewish Saudi tribe.

I can give you the links to that information if you would like. Makes for some fascinating reading material.

The Jew (when I say the Jew I mean Jews as a whole, of course there're exceptions) is not chiefly an anarchist, feminist, communist, socialist, libertarian or Christian.
These're universalist masks the particularist Jew wears.
Above all the Jew is a Jew and a Zionist.

His chief objectives are to transfer wealth and power from the white proletariat and petite bourgeois to the elite on the one hand, which he disproportionately overrepresents, and to racial, religious and sexual minorities on the other, especially himself.
Now if it was a white elite ruling over us, they'd be corrupt too, many of them would try to transfer wealth and power from us to them (but probably not as starkly as now, because many of them would have some loyalty to us), but they wouldn't transfer our wealth and power to minorities, if anything they'd transfer the wealth and power of minorities to us.
That is the difference + we wouldn't have open borders.


Pretty much, yes.
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Re: Misconceptions about the far-right.

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:26 pm

The 'Problem' with Western Civilization, dominated and ruled by Anglican genes/race/culture, mostly...

...is that Anglos traditionally and historically have had a Monarchy upper-class and rule. Thus there was not only a glass-ceiling (Aristocracy), but an iron-ceiling (Royalty). Thus, no matter how many or how much ethnic and racial Minorities, or Jews/Zionists, had gained power within the country (England), they could never infiltrate or overrule, the Aristocratic ruling-class.

This fact is not so in America, which is why the Anglo-Jewish alliance has grown so powerfully and dominant, and today (as of 2019), the Liberal-Left no longer even needs to 'hide' the truth. They outright say it, now. They outright display their Miscegenation in almost all Commercials. You see it in every television show, every movie, and everywhere these images are plastered and you're supposed to "just know" the meaning. The meaning is obvious.

Because USA does not have the glass-ceiling, or the iron-ceiling (Royalty), the "class and caste" system is, hypothetically, Wealth and Money, Assets and Corporate holdings. This is reflected by how the US is now "selling-out" elections more and more, increased lobbying power, and endless debate about "foreign" interruptions within "domestic" elections. If you become globalist though, there is no "foreign and domestic", there is only-domestic. So, essentially, I agree with you (Gloominary and Zero), the threat comes from within. It has to, after you erase all borders.

But, in reality, people are simple, and kin-selection rules supreme. It's still a matter of who lives next to who, how many, demographics, etc. "Culture wars", Subversion, Sedition, Civil War, etc. all begin within the disruption of family, clan, and tribal infighting and fracturing. USA does not have a strong ruling-class, in the sense that the Anglo-Saxons who have dominated up to now, do not have an Aristocracy, and do not have a Royalty. Thus there is no true kin-selection loyalty.

You cannot be loyal to ethnic and racial "others", who you don't recognize, look almost nothing like you, and strangers within your own home.
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