Overall, is government bad?

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Overall, is government bad?

Postby FreeSpirit1983 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:49 am

I know that government is needed, but I have a theory that government is bad, overall.

Look at the atrocities committed by governments; Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, etc., etc.

Look at the repressive governments in the Middle East; Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc., etc.

Government attracts the worst type of people. Look at the U.S. President! Donald Trump.

Government attracts narcissists, thieves, despots, etc., etc.

Look at how many governments straight up steal from their own people.

I think government is bad, overall.

What do you think?
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Re: Overall, is government bad?

Postby xhightension » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:32 pm

Government is layered, multidimensional, because humans instill them based off weathered situations. Historical context comes in to play - think about the ideas that surround the concept of government: struggle for power(Nietzche), people need to be contained(Hume), the idea of democracy and implication of the potential of individuals(Locke)

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Re: Overall, is government bad?

Postby Gloominary » Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:15 am

Not to mention the progressive fascist elite, they're giving government a bad name.
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Re: Overall, is government bad?

Postby Gloominary » Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:54 pm

Government could be better if more people started taking a chance on independents and third parties from middle and working class backgrounds instead of 1st parties from upper class backgrounds backed by megacorporate donors and the MSM who never do near half of what they say they'll do anyway.
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Re: Overall, is government bad?

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:43 pm

FreeSpirit1983 wrote:I know that government is needed, but I have a theory that government is bad, overall.

Look at the atrocities committed by governments; Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, etc., etc.

Look at the repressive governments in the Middle East; Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc., etc.

Government attracts the worst type of people. Look at the U.S. President! Donald Trump.

Government attracts narcissists, thieves, despots, etc., etc.

Look at how many governments straight up steal from their own people.

I think government is bad, overall.

What do you think?


K: government is a tool and like any other tool can be useful or
dangerous...if we used government as it should be used, it is the basis
of all civilization...there cannot be any civilization without government....
in, fact, if one were to define civilization, government is part of
that defination....

think about the great civilizations that has existed and the foundation of
every single one of them has been government... From the Egyptians to
the Greeks to the Romans... the Medieval/Dark ages occured when
the government itself failed and all that was left was the Church...
at the same time as the Middle ages was occuring in the west,
we had great and thriving civilizations in the middle east and in Asia
and they were thriving because of the strenght of the government...
when the West rose again, it was because the government, the state,
rose again... it is a direct cause and effect... civilization can only exist
within a strong and stable government.... think I am wrong?

Name me a strong civilization that didn't have a strong and stable
government? There isn't one......

the connection between government and civilization cannot
be ignored or dismissed.... it is a fact... you want civilization,
you have to have government/state to have it... simple as that....

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