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Re: Balkanization and Civil War Loom

Postby Gloominary » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:08 pm

Again, for me this isn't about left/right, it's about bottom-up/top-down.
It's not about socialism/capitalism, it's about national populism/global elitism.
We need more negative, and positive rights for the working and middle class irrespective of race, religion or sex, and less negative, and positive rights for the upper 0.1%, especially or particularly for those among the 0.1% pushing these agendas i.e. corporatism, population reduction, white replacement, misandry and so on.
But the elite want to keep the lower classes, races and sexes squabbling amongst themselves over scraps, meanwhile their reign is never seriously challenged.
It's the ole playbook divide and rule.
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Re: Balkanization and Civil War Loom

Postby WendyDarling » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:11 pm

In the USA, the life expectancy has declined for the last two years.
http://fortune.com/2018/02/09/us-life-expectancy-dropped-again/

Canada's life expectancy is currently higher than the USA.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/274513/life-expectancy-in-north-america/
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Re: Balkanization and Civil War Loom

Postby Gloominary » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:44 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if Canada's longevity is now declining as well.
It's partly by design, but it's also us, our substance abuse, laziness and faith in science.
We were born in, relatively good times.
Boomers probably had it the best.
We had a little democracy, some freedom, peace and prosperity.
If we don't turn this thing around, and ultimately we probably won't, we're going to continue declining, my only question is how steep the decline will be.
The west is going to look a lot like the third world, like Africa.
The elite will try to manage the fallout they've in part caused as best they can, and when things get really bad, they'll hide in their underground bunkers.
A few of us see it coming, some of us will be better prepared, but many or most will perish.
I believe we're headed for a worldwide dark, neo-feudal age.
It's decadence, these things are cyclical, it's mostly unavoidable.
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Re: Balkanization and Civil War Loom

Postby Gloominary » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:25 pm

eventually disabilities, diseases, disorders, and superbugs will proliferate faster than both allopathic, and naturopathic medicine can keep up with, and as we've seen, science is both unknowingly in some cases, and even knowingly in others trying to exterminate us.
Sometimes the antedote is worse than the poison...sometimes it is the poison.
Life expectancy is already beginning to decline.
It's going to get worse and worse.
People are more autistic, cancerous, diabetic, obese, lazier and sexually depraved than they've ever been, not just physically lazier, but intellectually, politically, socially and spiritually.
I don't think humanity and its economy can infinitely grow, we do live on a finite planet with finite resources, but if we were more moderate, we could at least keep ourselves from plummeting, or perhaps conservatively and sustainably grow.

A healthy immune system isn't susceptible to disease.
it's only because the host has neglected its physical, intellectual, political and so on health that these parasites at the top (the global elite), and the bottom (illegals, refugees, terrorists, thugs and their advocates) can feed off of us.
The western world has already reached its epoch, its zenith, it's now being gutted by forces from without, and within.
We're going to join the third world, enter a long, deep slumber after a storm from which we may never fully awaken.
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Re: Balkanization and Civil War Loom

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:14 am

Gloominary wrote:People are more autistic, cancerous, diabetic, obese,
and let's not forget, which I am sure you haven't, diagnosed and medicated for all sorts of mental illnesses and syndromes. This philosophically weak model for, now, dealing with nearly all human emotional pain and stress, has made us hate our own emotions even more and introduced a vast set of side effects and dependence on a group of people with one of the highest rates of suicide: psychiatrists.
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Re: Balkanization and Civil War Loom

Postby WendyDarling » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:00 pm

Gloominary wrote
Autism, from almost unheard of in the early 20th century, to 1 out of 50 in the early 21st.
I guess by the early 22nd, everyone will be wearing diapers and helmets.

:lol:
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Re: Balkanization and Civil War Loom

Postby WendyDarling » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:07 pm

I've been feeling pulled towards activism lately, but I have no idea of how to make even the slightest dent in hammering out all of this craziness.
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Cutting folks for sport is a reality for the poor in spirit. I myself only cut the poor in spirit on Tues., Thurs., and every other Sat.
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Re: Balkanization and Civil War Loom

Postby MagsJ » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:35 pm

Society are accepting their ailments and diagnoses without seeking the root cause of it, and continue their existence living under the label of their diagnosed malaise and on their prescribed tablets.

Those of a certain age ( 8-[ ) know living without being under the influence, but the young do not and think this current way natural.. it is not natural, it is a state of being enforced upon the consumer.

There is only one root cause of all these modern illnesses, but arrived at by many routes.
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite

I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get that time back, and I may need it for something at some point in time. Wait! What?

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Re: Balkanization and Civil War Loom

Postby WendyDarling » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:25 pm

Mags wrote
There is only one root cause of all these modern illnesses, but arrived at by many routes.

And that one root cause is?
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Cutting folks for sport is a reality for the poor in spirit. I myself only cut the poor in spirit on Tues., Thurs., and every other Sat.
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Re: Balkanization and Civil War Loom

Postby Gloominary » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:35 pm

Karpel Tunnel wrote:
Gloominary wrote:People are more autistic, cancerous, diabetic, obese,
and let's not forget, which I am sure you haven't, diagnosed and medicated for all sorts of mental illnesses and syndromes. This philosophically weak model for, now, dealing with nearly all human emotional pain and stress, has made us hate our own emotions even more and introduced a vast set of side effects and dependence on a group of people with one of the highest rates of suicide: psychiatrists.

Right, it's a medical philosophy we have (allopathy), that illness, including emotional illness (chronic anxiety, depression, mood swings, etcetera) is often the result of genetic, prenatal and/or early developmental neurological defects, instead of the result of poor or limited perspectives, values, relationships, diet, lifestyle and so forth, that it often can't be cured, but its symptoms can be managed, treated, and that it's best to do this with unnatural and so patentable drugs drug companies can corner, monopolize.

essentially this philosophy takes all the power away from the patient, and gives it to the doctor.
It's a philosophy that maximizes profits for the medical industry, and minimizes the public's responsibility.
It's a philosophy born from the convergence of greed on the one hand, and laziness on the other.

This is not to say allopathic medicine has no value, of course it can save your life, however there's no doubt in my mind we're by far and away overly dependent on it.
Virtually anything taken to extremes is detrimental, we've gone too far in this direction, in so many directions and we're paying the price for it.

But of course some people go loopy in the other direction, they think you can cure absolutely every disease, even attain immortality by practicing this diet, following that exercise regiment, taking this potion or elixir.
For me, I view allopathy as a last resort whereas most others these days it seems view it as their go-to.
I prefer to heal myself by cautiously experimenting with and improving my lifestyle.
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Re: Balkanization and Civil War Loom

Postby MagsJ » Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:54 am

WendyDarling wrote:Mags wrote
There is only one root cause of all these modern illnesses, but arrived at by many routes.

And that one root cause is?

Cell-disruption.. one objective, many avenues in achieving it.
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite

I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get that time back, and I may need it for something at some point in time. Wait! What?

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Re: Balkanization and Civil War Loom

Postby WendyDarling » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:10 am

That's literally deep, Mags! Covers all of our physical and physiological ground. I think you're right.
I AM OFFICIALLY IN HELL!

I live my philosophy, it's personal to me and people who engage where I live establish an unspoken dynamic, a relationship of sorts, with me and my philosophy.

Cutting folks for sport is a reality for the poor in spirit. I myself only cut the poor in spirit on Tues., Thurs., and every other Sat.
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Re: Balkanization and Civil War Loom

Postby Gloominary » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:39 am

If you want to try to simplify it, basically modern, western medicine takes a very YANG approach to health: technical, reductive, top-down, unnatural and invasive, whereas traditional medicine took a more intuitive, holistic, grassroots, natural and gentle yin, approach.
With yang, the body, disease and nature are the problem, with yin, our behavior is.

In the early 20th century, there were at least four schools of medical thought that were held in high regard by both academia and the public, but gradually it was narrowed down to just one: allopathy.
The others are still there, and probably always will be in one form or another, they have their own universities, literature, doctors and so on, but they're considered supplementary at best and of course quackery at worst.
The state, academia and much of the public don't consider them fully legitimate, but nonetheless there is a growing market for them and they're making a bit of a comeback.

If you have a disease, the yang approach is to, well, attack it, supress its symptoms or force you body to do what you want it to do against its inclinations with drugs, fry it with radiation, dump toxic chemicals onto it and hope they don't poison the rest of the body too much, surgically remove it, etcetera.
The yin approach then is to nourish and detoxify the body, to work with its natural processes.
It's the same with the brain/mind, the yang approach is outside-in, to open up the skull and rearrange the parts of the brain as if it had parts to begin with like a machine or computer, instead of being what it is, a continuum.

Now in all fairness again the yang approach isn't all bad, the trouble is our civilization ran away with it, we equated invasiveness with reason itself, when really it's just a style, a way of doing things, and like any way there's an equal and opposing, or complementary way, but really it's 3 dimensional, we can break these overarching ways apart and recombine them to form new ways, or look for principles well outside them.

In politics we've at least recognized two ways of doings things, which's of course quite limited, but still better than one, but unfortunately in the medical world allopathy has a monopoly.
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Re: Balkanization and Civil War Loom

Postby Gloominary » Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:05 am

WendyDarling wrote:I've been feeling pulled towards activism lately, but I have no idea of how to make even the slightest dent in hammering out all of this craziness.

I too feel that pull, perhaps one day.
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Re: Balkanization and Civil War Loom

Postby WendyDarling » Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:10 am

Gloominary wrote:
WendyDarling wrote:I've been feeling pulled towards activism lately, but I have no idea of how to make even the slightest dent in hammering out all of this craziness.

I too feel that pull, perhaps one day.

In which direction are you being pulled? You've mentioned supporting more unusual politicians rather than the usual parties. The need for big changes is so overwhelming that I feel like a chicken with my head cut off. Maybe citizen's arrests need to be made en masse.
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Cutting folks for sport is a reality for the poor in spirit. I myself only cut the poor in spirit on Tues., Thurs., and every other Sat.
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Re: Balkanization and Civil War Loom

Postby Gloominary » Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:14 am

MagsJ wrote:
WendyDarling wrote:Mags wrote
There is only one root cause of all these modern illnesses, but arrived at by many routes.

And that one root cause is?

Cell-disruption.. one objective, many avenues in achieving it.

Right, we don't emphasize nourishing and detoxifying ourselves enough at the cellular and macroscopic scale, but compensatorily we've gotten very adept at managing the fallout.
It's only a matter of time however before it becomes unmanageable, and then either we'll have to change, or face extinction.
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Re: Balkanization and Civil War Loom

Postby Gloominary » Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:21 am

WendyDarling wrote:
Gloominary wrote:
WendyDarling wrote:I've been feeling pulled towards activism lately, but I have no idea of how to make even the slightest dent in hammering out all of this craziness.

I too feel that pull, perhaps one day.

In which direction are you being pulled? You've mentioned supporting more unusual politicians rather than the usual parties. The need for big changes is so overwhelming that I feel like a chicken with my head cut off. Maybe citizen's arrests need to be made en masse.

Sometimes I feel like forming my own party and promoting it on social media, or promoting an existing alt party like the new populist Peoples Party of Canada.
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Re: Balkanization and Civil War Loom

Postby MagsJ » Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:53 pm

WendyDarling wrote:That's literally deep, Mags! Covers all of our physical and physiological ground. I think you're right.

..each cell being indiscriminately knocked back to disrupt that cell's energy production, and in turn disrupting the entire body's energy output.. regardless of input, as the cells' ability to metabolise has been disabled by [insert your poison here] ergo modern ailments due to autonomic nervous system dysfunction.

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Re: Balkanization and Civil War Loom

Postby MagsJ » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:47 pm

Gloominary wrote:Right, we don't emphasize nourishing and detoxifying ourselves enough at the cellular and macroscopic scale, but compensatorily we've gotten very adept at managing the fallout.
It's only a matter of time however before it becomes unmanageable, individually and collectively, and then either we'll have to change, or face extinction.

For many, the question of cellular repair comes far too late, as irreversible illnesses have already struck both young and old.. we can't massage and exercise our cells, but yes.. we sure can antioxidise them.

The extreme cell disruption would require an equally extreme recovery programme to enable us to crawl out of it, ergo.. not for the faint of heart or the feeble of mind.

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Re: Balkanization and Civil War Loom

Postby MagsJ » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:31 pm

The war is being waged not on Nations but on the individual themself, through the contamination of consumerable goods.. so people are paying/funding themselves, to be killed. :lol:
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite

I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get that time back, and I may need it for something at some point in time. Wait! What?

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Re: Balkanization and Civil War Loom

Postby Gloominary » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:02 pm

MagsJ wrote:
Gloominary wrote:Right, we don't emphasize nourishing and detoxifying ourselves enough at the cellular and macroscopic scale, but compensatorily we've gotten very adept at managing the fallout.
It's only a matter of time however before it becomes unmanageable, individually and collectively, and then either we'll have to change, or face extinction.

For many, the question of cellular repair comes far too late, as irreversible illnesses have already struck both young and old.. we can't massage and exercise our cells, but yes.. we sure can antioxidise them.

The extreme cell disruption would require an equally extreme recovery programme to enable us to crawl out of it, ergo.. not for the faint of heart or the feeble of mind.

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Yea it's not easy to get your health back after neglecting it for so long.
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Re: Balkanization and Civil War Loom

Postby Gloominary » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:51 pm

Sometimes you need to do fasts, cleanses and calorie restrictive diets.
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Re: Balkanization and Civil War Loom

Postby Gloominary » Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:38 pm

MagsJ wrote:The war is being waged not on Nations but on the individual themself, through the contamination of consumerable goods.. so people are paying/funding themselves, to be killed. :lol:

The YANG way to conquer an enemy is with superior technique and weaponry, or with superior numbers and resources, or just by brute force, sheer will and determination, but the yin way is to turn them into a big pile of psychic, metaphysical and spiritual goo that can be just pushed aside.
For historical reasons, some peoples have had to resort more to yin tactics than yang.
Over the millennia these peoples have gotten quite adept at it.
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Re: Balkanization and Civil War Loom

Postby MagsJ » Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:23 pm

Gloominary wrote:Yea it's not easy to get your health back after neglecting it for so long.

..or in these cases, your health neglecting you.. as you have no say in it, for the matter is out of your hands.

Gloominary wrote:Sometimes you need to do fasts, cleanses and calorie restrictive diets.

..or just eat clean and avoid all injectables, otherwise permanent good health will be perpetually out of reach.. although, while under the cell-disrupted influence, the body of some will automatically choose/default to the 'restrictive' option for you.. I think it's called survival mode. ; )

You fail to grasp the severity of the situation, thinking that modern dis-ease is down to bad lifestyle choices, and ignoring the fact that modern processed consumerables are toxic.

Gloominary wrote:The YANG way to conquer an enemy is with superior technique and weaponry, or with superior numbers and resources, or just with brute force, sheer willa nd determination, but the yin way is to turn them into a big pile of goo that can be just pushed aside.
For historical reasons, some people have had to resort more to yin tactics than yang.
Over the millennia these peoples have gotten quite adept at it.

..disarm with charm, or with chemicals.. depending on environment and audience.
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Re: Balkanization and Civil War Loom

Postby MagsJ » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:16 pm

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The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite

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