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Re: Incel Culture

Postby barbarianhorde » Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:44 pm

Ecmandu wrote:
barbarianhorde wrote:I think the whole idea of using force is based on showing off how much some one is worth to you. There is no logic behind it just showing off like flowers.A mans violence is his appearance, this is also with you Ecmandu, the case.


I will on occasion say this to people who argue like you. If my mind acted in this world with your morality...

You really don't want to know!


Dude you need to take three steps back and read a philosophy book or something. You have literally no idea what morality is.


If I say, on a rainy day, "it sure rains a lot today!" Ecmandu will say "rrrraaahhh I am Genghis Kaaaaahhnn aaah"
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Re: Incel Culture

Postby barbarianhorde » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:00 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:
barbarianhorde wrote:
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ok so this is Incels way off viewing women.
Is the left woman more criminal in your eyes, Ecman, than the right woman?


I would smash all these bitches.


Hahaha. Thank for putting this in real perspective.
Yeah why not.
The bookish one is probably pretty kinky.
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Re: Incel Culture

Postby barbarianhorde » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:12 pm

Ecmandu wrote:I'll tell you guys a good story.

So I was trained in a hardcore southern shaolin school
Called "temple of the black dragon"

We had to do stances for 5 years before we were taught how to fight ...

Have you ever done a horse stance or tiger stance for 12 hours straight?!?! I bet not!!

That was your grounding !!

After this grueling ordeal, your next lesson was "iron fist"....

In this stage, you beat your hands to a pulp learning to break things.

After 3 years of this, you learned "poison hand", which is to hit the meridians with accuracy to disable your opponent.

The school I was in was an invite only school. If you offered to ten billion dollars to train with them, they'd just laugh at you.

It's not the grapplers that win fights, it's the strikers.

As you can see recently in UFC.

Masters from my lineage would kill the UFC contenders in a single strike.

The most badass martial artists don't humor things like that.

You guys think you know so much about martial arts.

You don't.

The reason I quit my school, is because the Sifu once told the class that a grandmaster never gets into a fight, the whole fight is psychological ,...

When I heard that, I'm sure my pupils dilated with amazement, and I walked out of the class and never came back.

LIAR.

Now I don't believe anything you say anymore.

It didn't occur to you that someone might actually have Shaolin training.
Iron fist does not involve beating fists to pulp. Nor does any of these exercises you describe happen the way you describe them.
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Re: Incel Culture

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:34 pm

barbarianhorde wrote:
Ecmandu wrote:I'll tell you guys a good story.

So I was trained in a hardcore southern shaolin school
Called "temple of the black dragon"

We had to do stances for 5 years before we were taught how to fight ...

Have you ever done a horse stance or tiger stance for 12 hours straight?!?! I bet not!!

That was your grounding !!

After this grueling ordeal, your next lesson was "iron fist"....

In this stage, you beat your hands to a pulp learning to break things.

After 3 years of this, you learned "poison hand", which is to hit the meridians with accuracy to disable your opponent.

The school I was in was an invite only school. If you offered to ten billion dollars to train with them, they'd just laugh at you.

It's not the grapplers that win fights, it's the strikers.

As you can see recently in UFC.

Masters from my lineage would kill the UFC contenders in a single strike.

The most badass martial artists don't humor things like that.

You guys think you know so much about martial arts.

You don't.

The reason I quit my school, is because the Sifu once told the class that a grandmaster never gets into a fight, the whole fight is psychological ,...

When I heard that, I'm sure my pupils dilated with amazement, and I walked out of the class and never came back.

LIAR.

Now I don't believe anything you say anymore.

It didn't occur to you that someone might actually have Shaolin training.
Iron fist does not involve beating fists to pulp. Nor does any of these exercises you describe happen the way you describe them.


Really?

The temple bow has all three elements of Kung fu in it.

Grounding (stance) closed fist (punching) (you're trained to hit so much that you straighten your knuckles) (otherwise known as iron fist)

And then there's to open palm over the closed fist, which represents poison hand (accuracy)

All three elements of fighting are represented in the temple bow.

Traditional schools going back at least 1000 years don't teach anything until you master stances (your grounding). With iron fist, the next step of grounding is strength (and you're taught to relax all your muscles to give you speed) this training is usually 3 years, the final stage after you've mastered grounding is poison hand (accuracy)

I don't think you know what YOURE talking about.
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Re: Incel Culture

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:05 pm

Actually I'll teach you even more ...

So the young students who were just doing stances all day...

Eventually the Sifu would walk up to us either with a bamboo pole, or just his hands, and he would strike us in multiple places, and we were NOT supposed to move.

I also forgot to mention that after all the basic training, there were 22 basic weapons. I never made it that far.

Also, the Sifu looked at your body type and decided which animal you were, and that's what he'd train you in. I was a dragon, which actually just means open palms curved slightly. Dragons were taught breaking. You catch a limb, and with the other hand, you break it with an iron palm.

Actually, besides Sifu, the most badass fighter in our class was an elephant style guy... you tell me a singl king fu movie where someone uses elephant style, and I'll concede that I'm full of shit. You won't though.

Another thing the young students had to do to hold stances was to put telephone books on our stomachs standing up, and to get hit on the telephone book by other students, and sometimes sifu himself.

Shall I go on barbarian??

Oh yeah, another thing not commonly known about traditional shaolin schools is that you either have a black sash or you don't! There's no degrees like karate. All a black sash means in Kung fu, is that the sifu decided that you are now capable of being a sifu yourself. Some schools try to do "oh yeah, you're a 10th degree black sash now". That's not traditional southern shaolin. I never got a black sash
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Re: Incel Culture

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:58 pm

Read the last 2 posts.

Also barbarian, I find it VERY ironic that a guy who states that someone with shaolin training think I'm full of shit.

Someone with real training knows the difference between northern and southern shaolin ... and would NEVER !!! State that they just had shaolin training!!!

You might not be a liar, but you really don't know your topic.
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Re: Incel Culture

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:35 pm

Barbarian,

Read the last three posts.

I'm going to explain something about UFC.

They may be trained killers, but they're not allowed to use it on the mat. You can't just grab a guys head and twist it in a fraction of a second until it snaps, and they're dead before they hit the mat.

Sam Harris is a moron for stating that ju jitsu is the proven dominant martial art. He takes ju jitsu.

He's a moron (misinformed/misunderstanding/ignorant)

Every art is the most dominant art in martial arts, it depends on the person.

Generally speaking, striking and breaking arts are the most superior ... but even ju jitsu teaches these.

They're not allowed in UFC !

So people get a very skewed version of what a fight is supposed to be in martial arts from this retarded tv show.
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Re: Incel Culture

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:57 pm

Barbarian, read the last four posts.

I'll teach you even more!

So there's something called beginners mind/luck in martial arts. The longer someone trains, the less chaotic they become, this phenomenon allows newbies to get hits in. To be well trained is to always have beginners mind.

When we used to do chi sou (translated as sticky hands - better known as sparring) some new student would come in and get a hit, and Sifu would yell "you know nothing!"

Oh yeah, but I'm making this all up, right barbarian ?!
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Re: Incel Culture

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:27 pm

Barbarian,

Read the last 5 posts!

So, I looked online for a video that depicts elephant style. There were none.

I'll explain it to you here.

So...

Someone takes the basic tiger stance, and then holds their two front arms (bent at the elbow like two elephant trucks), and gets full body coverage from this stance. Of you have a question about this, I can take a picture of myself and upload it.
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Re: Incel Culture

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:49 pm

Ecmandu wrote:Barbarian,

Read the last 5 posts!

So, I looked online for a video that depicts elephant style. There were none.

I'll explain it to you here.

So...

Someone takes the basic tiger stance, and then holds their two front arms (bent at the elbow like two elephant trucks), and gets full body coverage from this stance. Of you have a question about this, I can take a picture of myself and upload it.


Here's a picture of me doing elephant stance!
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Re: Incel Culture

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:58 pm

Oh yeah barbarian,

You'll notice in the picture that my thumbs aren't in position...

Since you know so much about Kung fu, I did this on purpose, what's the correct position of the thumbs?
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Re: Incel Culture

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:48 pm

Ecmandu wrote:Oh yeah barbarian,

You'll notice in the picture that my thumbs aren't in position...

Since you know so much about Kung fu, I did this on purpose, what's the correct position of the thumbs?


Barbarian,

This is the stance I was taught in… dragon stance (remember I said curved open hands)

Dragon stance is used for catching and breaking.

Realistically, a fighter will use multiple stances in a fight (styles), everyone has their dominant though.
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Re: Incel Culture

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Re: Incel Culture

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:06 pm

promethean75 wrote:https://vocaroo.com/i/s0Elu2YakpoX


For the record, and I stated this earlier, I NEVER got a black sash. I'm not even a bad ass in my own school!

All I was taught was striking and breaking ...

Breaking actually involves grappling ...

Am I the biggest bad ass ever or even close?

No way.

Not even close.

The question here was whether I studied southern shaolin for multiple years.

I think I answered that question.

Now I'm 70 pounds overweight, I limp on my left foot (no idea why, never had a doctor look at it) and have smoked 3 packs a day for almost 30 years. Beating me up is like beating up a 100 year old woman.
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Re: Incel Culture

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:38 pm

I will add to this... I have absolutely no clue what you mean by strikers and combination moves. I've never heard of it, no clue what you're talking about.

We used to pass coconuts around the class, what's needed to break a human skull open.

I never could break one... I tried, I never could.

The move that I was best at, was lunging into someone on a sweep and dropping their back on my other kneeled knee.

For some weird reason, I was really good at that.

Older students in my school did do full contact, almost got one of the students killed.
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Re: Incel Culture

Postby promethean75 » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:57 pm

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Re: Incel Culture

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:21 am

promethean75 wrote:https://vocaroo.com/i/s0EKflv9agJ5


Do you consider that an appropriate response to "ecmandu is a liar" ?

If I was a grappler and I knew someone could always crush a human skull with a single blow, I'd never step into that ring.

That's just me, I may be ignorant, but that's what I'd do.

I was in a school that ONLY taught to kill. No drawn out "sloppy fights", as you said, with what "combination moves!!?!?" Is that what you think strikers are?

You're misinformed.

If you don't kill on the first hit, you're dead, that's how my sifu taught.

Honestly, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
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Re: Incel Culture

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:18 am

This is nonsense Ecmandu. How are the hyper dimensional mirrors coming?
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Re: Incel Culture

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:24 am

Pedro I Rengel wrote:This is nonsense Ecmandu. How are the hyper dimensional mirrors coming?


I'd like to see a real argument from you.

Would you step into a ring with someone who can split a skull in a single strike from multiple angles?

You guys don't even know what you're talking about, and it's sad and pathetic.

The hyperdimensional mirrors are still being solidified into reality, lots of problems to solve with those.
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Re: Incel Culture

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:39 am

Hahahahahahahaha you're the best man. Don't let anyone ever tell you otherwise.
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Re: Incel Culture

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:42 am

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Hahahahahahahaha you're the best man. Don't let anyone ever tell you otherwise.


I'm not the best man. I am the best at having knowledge nobody else has for being the best man... there's a big difference.
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Re: Incel Culture

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:44 am

Is the discussing of martial arts and who really knows what he is talking about a part of Incel Culture?
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Re: Incel Culture

Postby barbarianhorde » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:08 pm

Ecmandu wrote:
barbarianhorde wrote:
Ecmandu wrote:I'll tell you guys a good story.

So I was trained in a hardcore southern shaolin school
Called "temple of the black dragon"

We had to do stances for 5 years before we were taught how to fight ...

Have you ever done a horse stance or tiger stance for 12 hours straight?!?! I bet not!!

That was your grounding !!

After this grueling ordeal, your next lesson was "iron fist"....

In this stage, you beat your hands to a pulp learning to break things.

After 3 years of this, you learned "poison hand", which is to hit the meridians with accuracy to disable your opponent.

The school I was in was an invite only school. If you offered to ten billion dollars to train with them, they'd just laugh at you.

It's not the grapplers that win fights, it's the strikers.

As you can see recently in UFC.

Masters from my lineage would kill the UFC contenders in a single strike.

The most badass martial artists don't humor things like that.

You guys think you know so much about martial arts.

You don't.

The reason I quit my school, is because the Sifu once told the class that a grandmaster never gets into a fight, the whole fight is psychological ,...

When I heard that, I'm sure my pupils dilated with amazement, and I walked out of the class and never came back.

LIAR.

Now I don't believe anything you say anymore.

It didn't occur to you that someone might actually have Shaolin training.
Iron fist does not involve beating fists to pulp. Nor does any of these exercises you describe happen the way you describe them.


Really?

The temple bow has all three elements of Kung fu in it.

Grounding (stance) closed fist (punching) (you're trained to hit so much that you straighten your knuckles) (otherwise known as iron fist)

And then there's to open palm over the closed fist, which represents poison hand (accuracy)

All three elements of fighting are represented in the temple bow.

Traditional schools going back at least 1000 years don't teach anything until you master stances (your grounding). With iron fist, the next step of grounding is strength (and you're taught to relax all your muscles to give you speed) this training is usually 3 years, the final stage after you've mastered grounding is poison hand (accuracy)

I don't think you know what YOURE talking about.

I see youve reverted to giving more accurate information.

Before, you were ranting about "beating your fists to pulp" and doing 12 hour sessions of horse stance.

Now, you pretend as if you didn't say these ridiculous clownish insults to Shaolin, and you come with some facts.

Yes I can, or at least could, break a skull with one blow. I scared the shit out of my fellow students and a bunch of them refused to spar with me because my arms and fists are or were too hard.

I still do fist pushups on gravel most mornings to wash off the sleep from the tendons. There is so much weariness in people tendons.

Basically martial arts are valuable only as a form of shamanism. If you don't have shamanism behind it (and original Shaolin is pure shamanism) then MA is complete nonsense.

Look at that pathetic McGregor. One of the least impressive humans I have ever seen.
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Re: Incel Culture

Postby barbarianhorde » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:16 pm

Ecmandu wrote:If you don't kill on the first hit, you're dead, that's how my sifu taught.

At least you need to know you're able to kill on a single hit. This completely determines your approach to the situation and makes you approach it surgically rather than in a frenzy.

The thing is you don't necessarily want to kill someone. You just need to be able to.
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Re: Incel Culture

Postby barbarianhorde » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:24 pm

promethean75 wrote:https://vocaroo.com/i/s0EKflv9agJ5

https://vocaroo.com/i/s1bseix974YU
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