Fat women demanding love.

Because what you see is TV. Television. King of Queens. Family Guy. Jokes. Comedy TV.

In my experience fat guys often get rejected in real life. In my experience when I see people at restaurants all the couples I see are athletic, fit, jocky men. And all the fat women I know have a list of guys waiting at her door. If a fat woman is single its because she views every man who wants her as beneath her.

I noticed this too. Girls are different from women. They are less bitchy than women. After a certain age girls start turning into cold blooded reptilians.

These unnattractive men are probably rich or high status or good at being con artists or something. Or it could be that you are a heterosexual and you just view all men as unnattractive in general. And it just sounds like you have tunnel vision. Because everyone knows even ugly girls will get a full inbox in dating sites. But a male has to be a perfect specimen to get any natural attention.

The OP isn’t generally interested in having sex with fat chicks. The OP is just commenting on something that is double-standard and cognitively irritating about society.

You’d be surprised. I remember there was thing, about a 700 pound woman being a model or something.

@Karpel

It’s some combo of nature, and nurture, like anything.

We always trained women to seek out the right men, just as much, if not more so than we trained men to seek out the right women.
Society has always been very, very protective of its daughters, if anything more so than its sons.
After all, sons are suppose to be strong, they don’t need protecting.
Perhaps we taught boys to pay more attention to girls looks, and girls men’s wallets.

But is the charismatic man broke, or does he have a good job, and drive a nice car?

When’re we going to see more films encouraging men to be gigolos and women sugar mamas?

Of course traditionally women’s work was to take care of the household, whereas men had to go out and make a living, taking on all kinds of jobs, producing more diversity character.
Is diversity a good thing.
Or is homogeneity?
Perhaps it’s better to know exactly what’s expected of you.
Men had to guess, try on many different roles, whereas women had the security and stability of always knowing what they’ll do, and who they’ll be.

Right, and why is any of this a problem?
Women value men for their brawn, brains and bank account, men value women for their beauty, heart and cooking, I mean who cares?
Why are feminists always on attack mode?

And I can’t imagine how bad things will be for young men growing up a generation or two from now, if we keep heading in this deleterious direction.

While I personally try to treat everyone with respect, a Social Darwinist will tell you we evolved to value the healthy, in this case slim, over the sick, in this case fat, whereas a socialist will tell you the opposite, we evolved to take care of the needy, or we should anyway, contrary to some of our instincts.
So what should we do?
Go out of our way to make the sick feel comfortable and welcome, or try to shame them into changing?
Again, I try to treat everyone with respect, but it’s impossible to treat everyone unequivocally equal, and not necessarily healthy for society either, because you permit sickness to proliferate.
I think it’s an interesting discussion and there are points to be made on both sides.

But don’t you see…this too is an attack on men.
A very subtle attack, but an attack no less.
We just want love, how could you deny us that?

Pay attention, what they’re implying is men aren’t paying sufficient attention to women’s other qualities, like their character, intellect and so on, because they’re paying excessive attention to their looks.
In other words, men are bad, shallow, superficial, and they want us to change.

Now Is it men’s fault we pay as much attention to women’s looks as we do, or is it women’s fault…or no one’s?
Assuming men do pay more attention to women’s looks than women pay attention to men’s, maybe if women developed their intellect and character more, we would start noticing them more for that.
Conversely, maybe if women stopped putting so much time and energy into their hair and makeup, we would start noticing them less for that.
Maybe it’s women’s fault, for neglecting their intellect and character, and focusing too much on their looks.
With feminism, mainstream media and many-most women, the onus is always on men, never on women.

But why should this even be a problem in the first place?
The sexes are different, women are more into erotica, men porn, women are more into drama, men action and adventure.
Why shouldn’t men notice women more for their physical beauty?
Why should we be attracted to them in the same way they’re supposedly attracted to us?

Now, suppose men started noticing women mostly or wholly for their intellect and character.
Why then all the bimbos would be crying misogyny, we can never win!

I mean you don’t see men saying, well you notice us for how much money we make more than for our character, intellect and so on.
I mean yea, I’m sure there’s some men out there making that complaint, but no one takes them seriously, or else they’re accused of misogyny.

And who’re women to tell men how much value they have?
Men have been sleeping with women since the dawn of mankind, we know how much value they have, through and through.
Ultimately it’s up to A consumer (men) to decide how much value B commodity (women) has for them, just as it’s up to B consumer (women) to decide how much value A commodity (men) has for them.
If the customer isn’t happy, and you really want to make the sale, you don’t call him an idiot, you pull out all stops and go the extra mile to win him over, develop yourself, be nicer to him.

Apparently men don’t need to tell women how much value we have, they must value us a whole lot, enough to attempt to persuade us they have more value than they think we think they have.
You think someone supposedly brimming, teaming with value wouldn’t have to shout it from the rooftops, that it’d be readily apparent.
And if men are really such pigs, who’re only interested in women for their looks, why would fat women, or women in general want them anyway?
What does that say about women, that they’re willing to shack up with such ‘vermin’?

Women are trying to socially engineer men into what they want us to be, instead of accepting us for what we are, and not just a little here and there, now and then, but across the board, it’s all you hear about in the media.
These are attacks upon men and masculinity.
What else could this be called besides misandry, the hatred of men?

Some studies suggest women initiate domestic violence against men just as often as men women, tho women are more likely to report it.
Now why would women, the physically weaker sex, initiate domestic violence against men, the physically stronger sex, just as often as men women?
I think because they don’t expect to get hit back.
And many men won’t hit them back, because it’s in their nature to protect women, or because they’ve been conditioned by society never to hit women, whereas it’s not as much in women’s nature to protect men, and women haven’t been conditioned by society never to hit men.
And men soon learn there are dire social and legal consequences for striking women, whereas women soon learn the opposite lesson: there are little-no social or legal consequences for striking men.

How often do men get their girlfriends to beat up other women for them?
Almost never.
But women often use some men to beat up other men.
By tugging on our heartstrings and playing the victim card, women are able to manipulate society into coming to their rescue, regardless of whether they’ve been genuinely wronged or not.
If you attack a woman, or often even if you just do something she doesn’t like, all of society is against you, but if a woman attacks a man, often he won’t even have his own support, let alone societies.
Women are the more physically vulnerable sex, but make no mistake, they are very powerful, it’s just that their power is indirect, and covert.
Society downplays just how much power women have, and despite it, they still somehow manage to come across as the victimized sex, making them all the more powerful still.

And when women do get, directly physically and verbally violent (instead of using a conduit), their violence tends to be more insidious.
A woman will take verbal jabs at her man all day long, until he explodes and calls her a bitch or cunt in the evening, or she’ll push, shove or slap him during arguments, then act surprised when after dealing with this night after night, he can’t take it anymore and slams her head into a wall.
And of course if she’s still conscious, she’ll shame him for that too, and he’ll probably feel sorry for her.
She’ll weaponize it,hold it over his head,threatening to sick the police on him if he doesn’t give into her demands.
Some women deliberately provoke men in this way, so they can shame or scare them into capitulation afterwards.
We don’t really pay all that much attention, if any, to the verbal jabs, or pushing, shoving and slapping leading up to men losing it, we just notice the men losing it, shouting bitch or cunt from the top of his lungs in public, or smashing her head against the wall, her more quantitative violence goes unnoticed, or ignored.

Has womankind forgotten the proverb: you win more bees with honey than with vinegar?

Yeah on paper it doesn’t make sense. They expect males to cooperate and obey their Marxist dystopia, while simultaneously treating males worse and worse each day and continuously finding new roads to interfere with their pursuit of happiness.

But on the other hand, there seems to be a limitless supply of cucks, to continue to fuel the dystopia.

Pure aesthetic appreciation is a later development of civilization. Outside of it the only value that matters is survival, and in the wild (or even early stages of civilization) fat = survival. If civilization collapses, all the skinny bitches will die off, no matter how “beautiful”, “elegant” or “ethereal” they may appear to men.
Then, we’ll be back to this again: ancient-origins.net/news-hi … key-006663

And you don’t love them because they are beautiful or inspire some otherworldly poetic visions in you, you value and worship them because your basic survival and existence depends on them, and all the qualities (read - fat) that give them advantage at survival and successful reproduction. So stop being such picky faggots; were it not for civilization that created the likes of you (clueless dreamers), this would be the best and the most realistic option you could ever hope for.

Piss the wrong man off, you’ll get beaten up.
Piss the wrong woman off, and she’ll attempt to destroy your life by falsely accusing you of rape.
See: Me Too Movement.
That’s ‘girl power’ (female privilege) for yuh, not to be taken lightly.

Feminists want to make women out to be hard done by.
They say women are objectified, that most, or all men mostly, or wholly pay attention to them for one thing.
While I think that’s exaggerated, let’s assume for the sake of argument it’s entirely the case.

So essentially what they’re telling me is, so long as women are decent looking…they can get a free ride?
They can be poor, dumb, ignorant, physically and emotionally weak, a/immoral, but so long as they’re not ugly, a man, who may be rich, smart, knowledgable, physically and emotionally strong, moral, will go out with them…take care of them.
So women only have to worry about, one thing, develop, one thing, meanwhile men have to worry about and develop myriad things.

And so long as they weren’t born hideous, looks, can be developed, especially these days with all the cosmetics and surgical procedures available.
And if you’re fat you, can lose weight, it’s good for you too, healthy, whereas men have to develop themselves in all sorts of ways in order to attract a mate.
I guess that means fat women who’re unable…or unwilling to lose weight are really out of luck, but the rest of womankind seems to have it made.

By expecting so little of women, women have had it easy, all these centuries/millennia.
This’s yet another example of female privilege masquerading as male privilege, to graner even more privilege than they already have.
Feminists want it all, everything under the sun can’t satiate them.

And what is this thing they have to develop, looks?
While looks are nice to have, they’re about the most superficial quality a person can bring to a relationship.
So basically what feminists are telling me is, men, and society, historically and even to the present day, expect almost nothing from women, and that that, is what male privilege is…really?

This’s why men need forums such as this one:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80JqoyaL-p4[/youtube]

Because they’re all we have.

If it was men bashing women 24/7/365 in the MSM instead of women bashing men, you can bet your bottom dollar women would be flocking to forums such as this one to criticize, and bash men.

Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not condoning generalized hatred of women either, my larger point is just that men, and women both have their strengths and weaknesses, as well as things that are strong, but the opposite sex doesn’t like anyway.
And that historically at times and in places we’ve both been propped up at each other’s expense, altho these days, I must say things are looking most especially grim for men.

I’m saying let’s dispense with generalized hatred of both sexes, as well as learn to recognize it when we see it.
Women’s generalied hatred is so pervasive, and so dressed up we fail to recognize it for what it is, where as men’s is instantly recognizable.
Not only that but feminists will turn men simply trying to defend themselves from women’s attacks or advocate for men’s rights, into an attack upon women, which’s not what it is.

It’s certainly not my intent to try and take us in the opposite direction and say, all or most women are evil.

To be honest, I’d rather fuck a cute petite guy than have sex with a woman who is 700 pounds. If that makes me a fag so be it. Can’t even with that fishy stank.

As for it being evolutionary, I see your logic and it makes sense. But I have my doubts. I think back in the day, people wanted muscular women who had big boobs, not women who were jabba the hutt. Jabba the Hutt women would eat up all the villages food, now what good what that be?

It is a tough debate to win. Because, historically speaking, women were always denied the right to vote. Votes have never worked for me anyway, it was always the vote of the idiot majority who decided how things were done. But still when the entire collective votes are men you will see certain tendencies.

As for male privilege it is a myth and inversion of reality. Males always had the least priviledge and the first to die in any disaster, women and children have always been put first and usually spared in most genocides. It has always been taboo for men to hit women and always taboo for men not to open doors and carry things for women. In essence, women get carried. Men have to go through shit to find a mate and work hard at the gym and get a good job and make a lot of money, and then still have to work hard always saying the right thing and passing her endless shit tests. Women get carried. Masculine women, feminists, want to complain about it because their like the kid in CounterStrike who is sick of being carried and wants to clutch his team. The kid who’s sick of being a passenger and wants to be a driver, wants a chance at the wheel. That doesn’t mean his father had an easily life. His father had to be a soldier, going through the sideshow and working hard just to even get any female attention at all. The only males who have actual male privilege are the elite 1% of males who hoard all the wealth from other males and keep other males down so they can have all the women to themself. I also find it funny how feminists mostly complain about CEO’s and males in hollywood, and somehow act as if the same logic applies to ordinary males who aren’t the 1%.

. This kind of thinking was a later development of civilization, perhaps when population control was becoming an issue (or rather, survival was no longer the major issue and probably hasn’t been for many generations already). This is where, I believe, aesthetics come in. The ideas of “spiritual” love, a higher love which births “knowledge” and “virtues” (instead of babies) was now becoming more accepted.
livius.org/articles/concept/ … sexuality/

Maybe it was similar to pederasty/pedophilia in modern day Afghanistan. Love is the main theme for Afghanis as well when it comes to boys (jealousy, kidnappings and murder included), except in Afghanistan, the boys dress and act as girls.
youtube.com/watch?v=eM-xe6wHjnw
Spiritualized/Romantic love is a common element in both.

When was lusting for jabba the hutt women a thing? Even as far back as when men who lusted for women who looked like chimpanzees? Even chimps dont lust for jabba the hutt women. I cant think of one species on the planet that lusts for jabba the hutt women.

Also, if I was world dictator, and someone was born gay or trans and wanted to fuck dudes I’d allow it. But encouraging straight guys, especially soldiers, for christ’s sake, to fuck older men is degenerate. Its the same as nukes. Rots the mind. But Moonlight got a 98%/100 so what do I know.

fabuplusmagazine.com/about/founder/

So that’s how it started. She was told that she’s fit despite being fat, so she had no reason to lose any weight whatsoever. Now, I don’t know the extent to which this is true – in fact, the extent to which it can be true – so you’re welcome to land me a hand.

Very nice. Any evidence to back this up? As it is, I’m afraid you are just a fat woman trying to sell herself using lies.

I already talked about Venus figurines of the Late Stone Age. This would also be common sense thinking. In a time where survival is precarious, one has to be practical. First ideas of beauty had to have been functional - and likely related to increased chances of survival. What use in glorifying that which has, practically, a higher chance of dying, in the real world? Why would a man want to pair with an undernourished female (and in unpredictable times) that may very likely die in childbirth or bear sickly or even stillborn children? Such a man would be a fool. The main asset of a woman was her fertility (child bearing abilities), and all physical aspects related to it.

It’s only later, when humans have made their survival more secure through the use of technologies that their perceptions of female beauty and desirability have changed/were adjusted. The men have also selected women, and consequently future generations, by modifying and spreading female beauty standards, to fit their own needs and inborn constitutions (and used their power to influence female decisions). It is a slow downhill selection as technologies advance, because the selection (of both sexes) is always to current technological standard (not to nature).
You may also want to look at increase in deliveries by Caesarian Sections (this is another, more straightforward, example of artificial selection; mandatory vaccinations would be another).
sciencedaily.com/releases/2 … 190654.htm
(We may be sealing our tombs already, right as we speak).

I would not be surprised if at some point in the future, a bionic woman (half human half machine) would take the place of ultimate female beauty and desirability, whereas a natural one would be relegated to a status of a lowly primitive animal. And just as a natural male is obsolete, so will a natural female. In time, her turn will come too. First, in assisting in bearing and childbirth; then, in replacing that function altogether. I believe its only a matter of time. In a future technological cacoon, cyborg “males” and “female will likely enact symbolic gender roles, just as we light candles today in our churches as symbolic gesture of actual ancient sacrifices.

Fat, so? This does not invalidate my claims. Where are my lies, exactly?

The idea of modern (and even not so modern) female physical beauty to me seems to serve to contrast a man’s own sense of masculinity. So, today, as I see it, both are sleepwalking and dreaming, hand in hand. Emergence of individuality (self-ishness) has a play in it, as well.

Humans are not bears and it is skinny people who are healthier than fat people.

Remember that the brain is mostly fat and so fasting has negative effects on the brain (at least it does mine, I get headaches from not eating.)

When I say skinny I don’t mean an anexoric but just a slim person. Anorexics are obviously unhealthy.

However humans are not bears and I don’t think an obese person can go without food for longer than a skinny person can. I think they would both start to get health problems from fasting at about the same time. So the idea that fat people can go without food for longer is most likely a myth. The main reason Vikings were fat was to shield them from the cold.

As for modern standards of female beauty by modern do you mean as opposed to cromagnon men? Women have been obsessed with jewels and clownish makeup since savage times thousands of years ago. As for men they are not pretty to contrast men, they are inherently pretty (even other animals like dogs and horses seem to just inherently know human females are pretty.) My guess is because they are spherical and sleek in shape. Sort of how sports cars are inherently luxurious, because of all the curves. As for men being the drab sex and females being the colourful ones, it does seem a bit inverted from nature.

Not allowed? Oh right, I get it, they’re the victim, for not being able to spread hate such as the OP does to satisfy their degeneracy with no backlash. By not allowed, you mean, by not allowed to get away with it without people calling them out on their bullshit. Yes they’re allowed to spread this garbage in public or on facebook. Yes, there will be consequences. They just don’t like it. You’re glossing over this fact, you hav a perverse sense of morality and what is allowed or what isn’t. As if people need to spread hate in order to justify not going on some school shooting. You’re sick, so is the OP.

In my opinion, it is cucks, white knights, feminists, and fat people who are sick.

Fat people are inherently sick and unhealthy, this is a fact of nature. Feminists, cucks, and white knights are sick because they deny nature is real. Their attitude is that there is no such thing as nature.

I am a Faustian. Not the Faust of the 1400s but the new one, Lauren Faust. She believes Marxism and Equality is dum and a joke, which it is. I believe in Balance.

Not everyone is equal, some are superior/inferior.

Also, if you believe in Equality you should be a Humanist, humanists are about making everyone equal, feminists are just about oppressing males.

Also I’m sort of like a Faustian of the 1400s also. I don’t believe in selling your soul to the devil, however I believe worldy pleasures should be sought after, actual tangible, worldly pleasures, nobody really knows if there is a Heaven or anything all we know is that worldy pleasures are real so what’s wrong with it.

Also, your name is WW3 angry, you don’t seem very mentally healthy or happy to me, so calling others sick is like the kettle and pot.

The crux of this thread is about female entitlement: Females demanding love, yet these same females who shame males for demanding love. And it’s sick and hypocritical to defend these women.

Also degeneracy is being fat and eating fat foods.

As for school shootings, schools are degenerate, american, stressful and toxic and that is why violence happens in schools.

Yeah I don’t really care what the opinion of sick people are, I see that garbage all day on the internet. I’m here to discuss facts and knowledge and what I presented to you was reasonable analysis backed by logic. Your beliefs and sickness is not my concern.

WW3 you don’t care about the sick?

That’s mean man.