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Hmmm.. I don't know about this

Postby Fixed Cross » Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:43 pm

The Financial Times reports that democracy has degraded since Nixon, because the Republicans did not feel Nixon was their man, but the Republicans do feel that Trump is their man. I find this slightly puzzling.

In passing, the FT reported the 4.3 percent unemployment rate as an unfortunate impediment with respect to the will to destroy the presidency.
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Re: Hmmm.. I don't know about this

Postby Eric_The_Pipe » Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:26 am

Fixed Cross wrote:The Financial Times reports that democracy has degraded since Nixon, because the Republicans did not feel Nixon was their man, but the Republicans do feel that Trump is their man. I find this slightly puzzling.
Why do you find this puzzling?

Fixed Cross wrote:In passing, the FT reported the 4.3 percent unemployment rate as an unfortunate impediment with respect to the will to destroy the presidency.
Yeah, it's pretty consistent that when the economy seems to be doing good people like the ones in charge, regardless of accuracy.
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Re: Hmmm.. I don't know about this

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:03 pm

Eric_The_Pipe wrote:
Fixed Cross wrote:The Financial Times reports that democracy has degraded since Nixon, because the Republicans did not feel Nixon was their man, but the Republicans do feel that Trump is their man. I find this slightly puzzling.
Why do you find this puzzling?

Because I think democracy is about having someone represent you. So in my mind, democracy now works, where in the time of Nixon it did not.

Fixed Cross wrote:In passing, the FT reported the 4.3 percent unemployment rate as an unfortunate impediment with respect to the will to destroy the presidency.
Yeah, it's pretty consistent that when the economy seems to be doing good people like the ones in charge, regardless of accuracy.

Isn't this why we elect leaders, for them to make life better?

The left keeps puzzling me. Do they elect leaders to make life shittier?
Well I don't know if that should puzzle me, it would explain their candidates.
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Re: Hmmm.. I don't know about this

Postby iambiguous » Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:28 pm

It's true of course that to the extent "peace and prosperity" prevails for any political party in any particular historical context, such things as sleaze and corruption can be more readily swept under the rug.

Perhaps even treason itself can be rationalized.

At the same time for those able to sustain their power either by creating a period of "peace and prosperity" or by inheriting it from those that came before them, they often get to call the shots regarding things not directly related to either the economy or foreign policy.

The conservatives sweep into power and suddenly things like abortion rights, homosexuality, the separation of church and state, race and gender narratives, value voter issues etc., are yanked in a whole new direction. Until the liberals sweep in again and the policies head back in the other direction.

One thing for sure: One individual's "shitty life" is often another individual's "bed of roses".

And the left is just as incredulous regarding those elections in which the voters put the right in power, making life a whole lot worse.

In the interim the economy will ever and always run hot and cold. It's called "the business cycle" and it seems to be entrenched in the very nature of capitalism itself.

Of course, even in times of relative prosperity, some will prosper considerably more than others.

That's why folks like Don Trump have to misdirect the attention of the white working class toward other things. And we know what they are, don't we? We've got a few of them here, right?

Only here I am still down in my fucking hole unable to react to it all as I once did: objectively.
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