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Malcom X and White Supremacy

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:23 pm

One thing Malcom X got esactly right is that the house negro is essencial for white supremacy.

The house negro today is a college professor.
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Re: Malcom X and White Supremacy

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:27 pm

Since master was wise enough to provide him with the term, the house negro today calls all negros people of color.

At once giving them a place in master's household and maintaaining the essencial mark of the slave: genealogy.

There are people of color, master, and the discontents. The discontents threaten the slave economy, so they are evil. House negro must find them and chastise them for master. Master will help.
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Re: Malcom X and White Supremacy

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:30 pm

Meanwhile black people still can't wrap their minds around such a barbaric state of affairs.

Malcom tried, but he was seduced by white supremacist's old religions.

Islam is also white supremacism, even though the house negros have taken control of it.
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Re: Malcom X and White Supremacy

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:33 pm

As all terrible things, the founder of white supremacism was actually one of the coolest people ever to put foot to soil.

Alexander The Great
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Re: Malcom X and White Supremacy

Postby Destiny » Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:28 am

Alexander the Great was hot.
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Re: Malcom X and White Supremacy

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:16 am

He was some kind of dude.
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Re: Malcom X and White Supremacy

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:24 pm

Is white supremacy an attitude towards women?
Women are of course more created by science than men are.
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Re: Malcom X and White Supremacy

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:56 pm

You mean white women? White supremacy doesn't mean anything other than what the name says.
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Re: Malcom X and White Supremacy

Postby Fixed Cross » Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:58 am

I don't believe in racialism.
Believe in the game.

I this white supremacy, because a white guy masters some technology?

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Re: Malcom X and White Supremacy

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:34 am

Lol no.
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Re: Malcom X and White Supremacy

Postby Thanathots » Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:26 pm

Supremacy is proven through conflict, not claimed. You don't get to automatically be "supreme" by default. Not sure how many white supremacists and other kinds of supremacists are aware of this fact, but probably a higher percentage than in the general population.

But what you can do, is assess the probability of one group winning over another, aka which group is more likely to demonstrate their supremacy by winning conflicts. Even in its current degenerated state caused by cuckservatism, leftism/liberalism and generally weakness and degeneracy, the white race is still probably the most powerful, all other factors equal. Some, like Japanese and Chinese, are worthy competitors. Most others, inferior.

In a sense everybody is supremacist, as everybody seeks to expand their domain of power (will to power). So those who call themselves "supremacists" are merely more honest about that. And more sane, too, because they take into account two important things: 1) Group identity, it is impossible for any individual to secure his supremacy alone, cooperation is necessary 2) That group identity and cooperation are more effective when limited to biologically similar individuals
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Re: Malcom X and White Supremacy

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:34 pm

Thanathots wrote:In a sense everybody is supremacist, as everybody seeks to expand their domain of power (will to power).

Boring people, that is people without much creativity, certainly may find domination of others the most interesting thing they can come up with. Or accumulating money. Or demonstrating that they do not need to care what you think by treating people like shit.

So, yes, supremicists are honest, but pathetic. Now in some way that may be better than pathetic people who are dishonest.

Shakespeare could have hung out in the pubs trying to fuck people over. Thank God he decided to write. And to continuously seek to expand his domain of power over words, characters and knowledge of the human.
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Re: Malcom X and White Supremacy

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:45 pm

"Knowledge of the human" sounds a little vague and lazy.

Also

"Or demonstrating that they do not need to care what you think by treating people like shit."

Does not sound like a goal. Certainly they then do care about something?

For example. Would you have me take seriously the claim that will to power is domain of power? Or is such a person, if we care, say, about wisdom, to be treated with disdain?

On the other hand, take a thinker like iambiguous, who fits your description pretty well. Will we simply ignore the genious of the question "can you bring this down to Earth" because we are offended by his supremacism?

A reverse supremacism, an ongoing punishment of phenomenology for hiding its true nature from itself, but supremacism nonetheless?

I don't think iambiguous knows the true nature of phenomenology, first of all because he doesn't care. But are his motives really that important?

How do you bring this down to Earth? To the world of conflicting Goods? If this is not philosophy, then Shakespeare was not a poet.
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Re: Malcom X and White Supremacy

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:13 am

Pedro I Rengel wrote:"Knowledge of the human" sounds a little vague and lazy.
So you chose to focus on parts of my post which was offering an example of the complexity possible within the will to power, and as intended by N, rather than focusing on the vagueness and laziness in that's conception of the will to power.

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"Or demonstrating that they do not need to care what you think by treating people like shit."

Does not sound like a goal. Certainly they then do care about something?
Like supremacy, a vaguely presented goal in the other post.

For example. Would you have me take seriously the claim that will to power is domain of power? Or is such a person, if we care, say, about wisdom, to be treated with disdain?
Ask the previous poster.

On the other hand, take a thinker like iambiguous, who fits your description pretty well. Will we simply ignore the genious of the question "can you bring this down to Earth" because we are offended by his supremacism?
Which description does Iamb fit well?

I don't think iambiguous knows the true nature of phenomenology, first of all because he doesn't care. But are his motives really that important?
I am not sure why Iamb is the focus of your response to me. Iamb's general question is peachy if no longer interesting to me. I don't believe in objective answers and consider his quest either quixotic or not really what he is presenting. He seems fine with quixotic quests. Good luck.

How do you bring this down to Earth? To the world of conflicting Goods? If this is not philosophy, then Shakespeare was not a poet.
Did you agree with the point I was making?
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Re: Malcom X and White Supremacy

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:44 am

Perhaps you were less clear about your point than you realize.

You made some guesses about what I chose to do (if choice really exists is a philosophical question), which may be wrong or may be right. But what did they get you closer to?

The subject of Malcom X and white supremacy somehow? Something else?
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Re: Malcom X and White Supremacy

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:54 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Perhaps you were less clear about your point than you realize
Perhaps. In any case, it had nothing to do with Iamb. I guess i could have said that. Quoting the other guy was clearly not enough to rule this out. Noted.
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Re: Malcom X and White Supremacy

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:12 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:As all terrible things, the founder of white supremacism was actually one of the coolest people ever to put foot to soil.

Alexander The Great

I wonder what year he would have been considered white stepping off a boat in NY as an immigrant.
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Re: Malcom X and White Supremacy

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:53 pm

Karpel Tunnel wrote:Boring people, that is people without much creativity, certainly may find domination of others the most interesting thing they can come up with.

Aye. This has been my argument against racial supremacism forever. What could be more bland and depressing than having only ones general ethnotype as the prime ground for self-valuing? It means one has so little to run with in life that one cant even attain the experience of stand-alone entity.

Or accumulating money.

How would someone like that be able to accumulate money? Racists are invariably poor unless they form a government bureaucracy like in Turkey or the DMC.

Shakespeare could have hung out in the pubs trying to fuck people over. Thank God he decided to write. And to continuously seek to expand his domain of power over words, characters and knowledge of the human.

Shakespeare must have spent some time in the tavern, listening to people talk about their lots.
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Re: Malcom X and White Supremacy

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:05 pm

Karpel Tunnel wrote:
Pedro I Rengel wrote:As all terrible things, the founder of white supremacism was actually one of the coolest people ever to put foot to soil.

Alexander The Great

I wonder what year he would have been considered white stepping off a boat in NY as an immigrant.

Alexander the Great was the opposite of a White Supremacist. He showed Aristotle's inferiority to the East.
But I suppose all dominating white males will be marked white supremacist by someone at some time. It certainly has happened to me, on no other account than me being white and powerful.

The problem with this is that "white supremacy" gradually becomes synonymous with "supremacy".
And the problem also is that the more non-whites act up in racist resentment, the more I actually feel happy to be white, the more I am coaxed to relate my genius to my ethnicity.
thankfully I consider black Americans to be the kernel to Nietzsche's higher man, and hold many of them as examples, otherwise I may fear that racists of other races would turn me into a racist.

I do think certain nationalities are almost guarantee for human failure. But nation is not race.
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Re: Malcom X and White Supremacy

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:38 pm

I'm less interested in you ruling things out than ruling things in.

Anybody can dissociate themselves and let their interlocutor assume the lowest common demoninator is then the point made. I find this a little disgusting, carry your own self.

But it takes... something special to actually then associate with something clearly stated. This is what interests me.
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Re: Malcom X and White Supremacy

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:56 pm

In case you are talking to me (you seem to have tossed your skill for clarity and conciseness or traded it for a social justice warrior kit) ; Ive seen you proudly step up as representative of at least three races during the course of a couple of years, which in all tree cases seemed rather helpless, and these three cases combined paint a picture of true uprootedness. You had infinitely more appeal to me when you were in your own category.
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Re: Malcom X and White Supremacy

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:50 pm

Nah nah. Not unless you are Karpel Tunnel. 'Sayn?

I am a descendant of white supremacists, brother of all Caribbean and Amazonic genealogical lines though not by blood. Genealogy of blood isn't the only genealogy, and genealogy is not the only path to brotherhood.
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Re: Malcom X and White Supremacy

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:52 pm

I don't hate my ancestors btw. I love them all. I'm just not down to continue that specific tradition, or really almost any.
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Re: Malcom X and White Supremacy

Postby Fixed Cross » Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:46 am

White supremacy is against my creed.

I am Teuton of creed.

For me white supremacy is like dollar store epicurism.

I mean this. Maybe it is comparable to what a grail knight feels vs popular Christianity.

Whites will still look to the Teutonic creed when it comes to war against totalitarianism, the invention of BabyLon(don).
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Re: Malcom X and White Supremacy

Postby Fixed Cross » Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:11 pm

I do think Odins people are supreme among whites. So I see myself a supreme white person. But I think of black Americans who rise up from ghettos as equally supreme as myself. I thus consider these blacks far superior to most whites.
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