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The missile trails across the sky

Postby gib » Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:07 am

Please watch this Nine Inch Nails music video for Less Than:



It's on my latest music mix: https://8tracks.com/giblettes/spring-2018

BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT!!!

The point of this thread is in this short lyrical snippet: "And you can always justify the missile trails across the sky."

It make me think: as an American, did Trent Reznor ever look up at the sky and see missile trails? This is really a question for all Americans. When you guys are at war with another country (i.e. always), do you fire missiles at the enemy from the homeland? And if so, can you see it? Is it like the fourth of July? Watching fireworks? Is it like star gazing? Watching the northern lights? A meteor shower? When Trump does one of his National Addresses, announcing that you guys are (once again) at war with Ukabukastan (or whatever), do you mark the date on your calendar and go out on that night to watch the amazing missile show?

What it like, ye Americans?
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Re: The missile trails across the sky

Postby gib » Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:14 am

I guess you guys aren't allowed to talk about it, huh?
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Re: The missile trails across the sky

Postby Zero_Sum » Tue May 01, 2018 3:25 am

I like Nine Inch Nails, never seen any missile trails though from the Midwest at least. Plenty of chemtrails however.
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Re: The missile trails across the sky

Postby gib » Tue May 01, 2018 3:06 pm

Zero_Sum wrote:Plenty of chemtrails however.


Oh, do tell.
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Re: The missile trails across the sky

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Tue May 01, 2018 5:01 pm

No Western country objected when the US bombed Syria for the chemicals weapons use, BEFORE the US demanded and investigation into who did it in the UN. Mention a weapon of mass destruction and people's brains hide in their colons.

I've never seen any missile trails. Though I have seen chemtrails. In the US and in Europe.
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Re: The missile trails across the sky

Postby esperanza1 » Wed May 02, 2018 4:18 am

gib wrote:It make me think: as an American, did Trent Reznor ever look up at the sky and see missile trails? This is really a question for all Americans. When you guys are at war with another country (i.e. always), do you fire missiles at the enemy from the homeland? And if so, can you see it? Is it like the fourth of July? Watching fireworks? Is it like star gazing? Watching the northern lights? A meteor shower? When Trump does one of his National Addresses, announcing that you guys are (once again) at war with Ukabukastan (or whatever), do you mark the date on your calendar and go out on that night to watch the amazing missile show?

What it like, ye Americans?


Hi Gib, thanks for sharing the video, I listen to a little bit of everything.

I live in a small-town in the midwest. No missle trails I can see either, thankfully! It's been awhile since I have read up on chemtrails, but there are times when I do think I see them.

A lot of us have friends, and family that have served, and are currently serving. We dont want to see our loved ones fighting in an unjust war.
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Re: The missile trails across the sky

Postby Mr Reasonable » Wed May 02, 2018 8:11 am

They don't fire missiles from the land here. They come from ships and planes and submarines that we park in various places in the world. Americans don't have any real concept of war for the most part. It's like watching TV. You see it and all but it's not real.
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Re: The missile trails across the sky

Postby gib » Wed May 02, 2018 9:34 pm

When I type in "define chemtrails" in google, I get this:

https://www.google.ca/search?source=hp& ... IG3iYc16NU

"a visible trail left in the sky by an aircraft and believed by some to consist of chemical or biological agents released as part of a covert operation."

So chemtrails are basically this...

Image

...but believed by some to be a covert attempt by government to poison everyone.
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Re: The missile trails across the sky

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Wed May 02, 2018 9:49 pm

gib wrote:When I type in "define chemtrails" in google, I get this:

https://www.google.ca/search?source=hp& ... IG3iYc16NU

"a visible trail left in the sky by an aircraft and believed by some to consist of chemical or biological agents released as part of a covert operation."

So chemtrails are basically this...

Image

...but believed by some to be a covert attempt by government to poison everyone.
Well, it's a lot more complicated than that. Some think it is a covert operation to slow down global warming, but is not a good process for our health, for example. One thing about chemtrails is that unlike contrails they do not dissipate but linger spread out and create a fuzzy sky, over completely covering the sky, while letting through diminished light. Contrails will disappear, generally in a trail slightly more think then when it comes out of the plane. chemtrails will spread and spread and are often laid out in crosshatching patterns. They remain. The technology is real and patented, but denied. There are whistleblowers and scienstist who have found the exact combination of chemicals in the patented technology in places where there should not be those chemicals. Governements will often say that it is simply normal contrails that have always been there. Where I live now some planes leave contrails some chemtrails. I live in an area near a couple of not so big airports, nothing like the enormous megalopolis airports when I was younger nad lived in a big city. If contrails had acted like these do we would have had very few sunny days and crosshatching patterns would have been the norm. This was not the case. I have no idea what they are doing or why, but their denials are silly and not consistant with what is seen.
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Re: The missile trails across the sky

Postby WendyDarling » Thu May 03, 2018 9:22 pm

Some of the official stories regarding chemtrails is that they are weather modification programs, seeding rain clouds, but containing vast amounts of aluminum nano particles which poison air, water, vegetation, and yes, us.

How are the Canadian skies?
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Re: The missile trails across the sky

Postby Dan~ » Thu May 03, 2018 11:02 pm

WendyDarling wrote:How are the Canadian skies?

In alberta there is chem trails too.
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Re: The missile trails across the sky

Postby gib » Fri May 04, 2018 4:21 am

Dan~ wrote:
WendyDarling wrote:How are the Canadian skies?

In alberta there is chem trails too.

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Re: The missile trails across the sky

Postby WendyDarling » Sat May 05, 2018 5:05 pm

What can average citizens do to ensure their safety against unmarked aircraft releasing whatever it is they're releasing into our breathing environment?
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Re: The missile trails across the sky

Postby gib » Sun May 06, 2018 1:05 am

WendyDarling wrote:What can average citizens do to ensure their safety against unmarked aircraft releasing whatever it is they're releasing into our breathing environment?


I'm not sure what citizens can do, but I don't know if I believe in the conspiracy theories.
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Re: The missile trails across the sky

Postby WendyDarling » Sun May 06, 2018 1:10 am

So explain how the smoke is healthy?
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Re: The missile trails across the sky

Postby gib » Sun May 06, 2018 2:58 am

WendyDarling wrote:So explain how the smoke is healthy?


I'm not saying it's healthy, just not a conspiracy (like they're doing it on purpose to poison people).
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Re: The missile trails across the sky

Postby WendyDarling » Sun May 06, 2018 3:57 pm

It's an accidental harmful side effect that they are completely aware of...is that your story?

If it's not healthy, why do they persist in spreading the smoke regularly?
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Re: The missile trails across the sky

Postby gib » Sun May 06, 2018 4:21 pm

WendyDarling wrote:It's an accidental harmful side effect that they are completely aware of...is that your story?


I don't know if 'accidental' is the right word here. Do you 'accidentally' pollute the atmosphere when you drive your car? The harm caused to the environment is probably unintentional, but known and accepted.

WendyDarling wrote:If it's not healthy, why do they persist in spreading the smoke regularly?


People do tons of unhealthy things without intending for the unhealthy side effects; it is often known to be unhealthy, accepted, but not part of the intention.

Smoking for example: known to be unhealthy, even to others via second hand smoke, accepted (in that smokers continue to smoke anyway), but not part of the intention. The intention is to satisfy a nicotine hankering, not to deteriorate one's health and that of others.
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Re: The missile trails across the sky

Postby WendyDarling » Sun May 06, 2018 6:45 pm

What are the governments (European, Canadian, USA) doing all over our skies?
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Re: The missile trails across the sky

Postby gib » Mon May 07, 2018 12:53 am

WendyDarling wrote:What are the governments (European, Canadian, USA) doing all over our skies?


I'm not even sure it's a government conspiracy. If it's a conspiracy at all, it's probably a corporate conspiracy. The more I research chemtrails on the internet, the more I'm convinced it's either A) just a different kind of fuel that airlines sometimes use, or B) the same kind of fuel as contrails, just being spewed out in different atmospheric conditions.

Really, I should just plead ignorance here: I have no idea what chemtrails contain, what differentiates them from contrails (if anything), if it's a conspiracy, or whether it is more harmful to the environment than contrails.
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Re: The missile trails across the sky

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Tue May 08, 2018 8:43 am

gib wrote:
WendyDarling wrote:What are the governments (European, Canadian, USA) doing all over our skies?


I'm not even sure it's a government conspiracy. If it's a conspiracy at all, it's probably a corporate conspiracy. The more I research chemtrails on the internet, the more I'm convinced it's either A) just a different kind of fuel that airlines sometimes use, or B) the same kind of fuel as contrails, just being spewed out in different atmospheric conditions.

Really, I should just plead ignorance here: I have no idea what chemtrails contain, what differentiates them from contrails (if anything), if it's a conspiracy, or whether it is more harmful to the environment than contrails.

option A would be so simple to tell the public, they would have said that already.
option B does not fit 1) the enormous change over time in the patterns that settle into this sort of fog, which did not happen earlier in my life or 2) two planes at the same altitude, one with a dissipating trail, one with a trail that, stays, spreads and becomes cloud cover when crossed with others.
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Re: The missile trails across the sky

Postby gib » Tue May 08, 2018 3:00 pm

Karpel Tunnel wrote:option A would be so simple to tell the public, they would have said that already.


They probably did say that, and people dismiss it as a conspiracy. My guess is it's a different kind of fuel that happens to be cheaper and more efficient but more harmful to the environment. There may be a bit of a cover up on the part of the airlines to deny the evidence of environmental harm, but I'm guessing that's the extent of it.
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Re: The missile trails across the sky

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Tue May 08, 2018 9:44 pm

gib wrote:
Karpel Tunnel wrote:option A would be so simple to tell the public, they would have said that already.


They probably did say that, and people dismiss it as a conspiracy.
I don't know where you are getting your 'probably' from, but I have never seen an official explanation saying that.

My guess is it's a different kind of fuel that happens to be cheaper and more efficient but more harmful to the environment. There may be a bit of a cover up on the part of the airlines to deny the evidence of environmental harm, but I'm guessing that's the extent of it.
That is a conspiracy and they would be stupid not to reveal the lesser evil. but of course governments are often stupid. The problem with this explanation for me is that there are patents out for weather modification using amongst other things certain heavy metals. using such a process would lead to trails like those we see AND lead to high amounts of the specific heavy metals in the patents being found in places in nature where there could be no other source but air dispersion. I am not certain what they are doing or why, but they are not being honest about something. Hopefully it is more minor as in your particular conspiracy theory.
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Re: The missile trails across the sky

Postby gib » Fri May 11, 2018 8:24 pm

Karpel Tunnel wrote:That is a conspiracy and they would be stupid not to reveal the lesser evil.


That depends on the legal and business ramifications they'd face. Polluting the environment might be the lesser evil than lying to the public, but they'd probably face greater legal and business penalties by being honest (like chemtrails being banned). Business always has a different set of morals than regular folk. The only moral value business knows is the bottom line, and if they stand to make more money by lying, they'll do that.

Karpel Tunnel wrote:but of course governments are often stupid.


Absolutely, but in this scenario, it's a corporate conspiracy, which means government doesn't necessarily know about it. When corporations conspire, they typically want to keep it hidden from both the people AND the government.

Now the more insidious (and interesting) conspiracy is by the water treatment plants. Did you know that the water that comes out of your faucet contains not only a whole swack of consciousness altering drugs, but nano-bots carefully programmed to target your brain and take control of your neurons?
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Re: The missile trails across the sky

Postby Zero_Sum » Sun May 13, 2018 4:15 am

gib wrote:
Zero_Sum wrote:Plenty of chemtrails however.


Oh, do tell.

Just come to the United States walk in any public park and stare at the sky all day.
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