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International Capitalism

Postby Dan~ » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:26 pm

Long ago, at some time, money was created and controlled by the government.
A democratic capital means that we vote on what money is worth and who should get access to it.

On the other hand, international capitalism means the state can be in debt.
Capital controls the state, instead of the state controlling capital.

Some prisons are run by the prisoners.
That is decadent.
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Re: International Capitalism

Postby Dan~ » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:52 pm

Because of international capitalism, we can pay these guys 5 cents an hour and it's legal.
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Re: International Capitalism

Postby Zero_Sum » Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:34 pm

An era where international corporations and banks hold entire nations hostage for their own self interests or preservation along with dictating power to governments themselves. There is effectively no national governing body of politik anymore, instead we have governments of corporations, financial syndicates, and international conglomerates.
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Re: International Capitalism

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:12 pm

Zero_Sum wrote:An era where international corporations and banks hold entire nations hostage for their own self interests or preservation along with dictating power to governments themselves. There is effectively no national governing body of politik anymore, instead we have governments of corporations, financial syndicates, and international conglomerates.



K: annnnnnnnnnnd......now that we understand this...
whatcha going to do about it?

it is not enough for the doctor to announce a disease,
he must also state a cure for a patients disease....

we have the disease, what is the cure?

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Re: International Capitalism

Postby Zero_Sum » Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:31 pm

Peter Kropotkin wrote:
Zero_Sum wrote:An era where international corporations and banks hold entire nations hostage for their own self interests or preservation along with dictating power to governments themselves. There is effectively no national governing body of politik anymore, instead we have governments of corporations, financial syndicates, and international conglomerates.



K: annnnnnnnnnnd......now that we understand this...
whatcha going to do about it?

it is not enough for the doctor to announce a disease,
he must also state a cure for a patients disease....

we have the disease, what is the cure?

Kropotkin


They control the voting, political representation, all levels of society, military, media, and the police. There certainly is no reforming the current system from the inside out.

I would say violent revolution is the only way possible via insurrection but the problem with this of course is that no large numbers of people have the will to fight and essentially have become pacified to do absolutely nothing.

That leaves us with the third option which is what I espouse and that is waiting for the whole thing to collapse or come crashing down from its own weight, I view this as an inevitability. Problem there of course is that we could be waiting for a long time for this to occur.....

Beyond all of that I see no reasonable options on the table and I haven't seen or heard anything noteworthy from anybody else on the issue in terms of solutions.
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Re: International Capitalism

Postby Mark090480 » Thu May 10, 2018 7:19 am

They control the voting, political representation, all levels of society, military, media, and the police. There certainly is no reforming the current system from the inside out.


If people were unhappy about it they would do something. As most people seem to work with the system, they're happy about it. All of the things mentioned here and above, I would say the average person knows. Most people know about climate change, for example, yet most people still drive their car. Most people know processed meat causes cancer, yet they're still eating it. Most people know the media manipulates the political system, yet they still vote.

Revolution will solve nothing as it assumes a small group of enlightened people saving the brain-washed masses.
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Re: International Capitalism

Postby Zero_Sum » Fri May 11, 2018 7:02 pm

Mark090480 wrote:
They control the voting, political representation, all levels of society, military, media, and the police. There certainly is no reforming the current system from the inside out.


If people were unhappy about it they would do something. As most people seem to work with the system, they're happy about it. All of the things mentioned here and above, I would say the average person knows. Most people know about climate change, for example, yet most people still drive their car. Most people know processed meat causes cancer, yet they're still eating it. Most people know the media manipulates the political system, yet they still vote.

Revolution will solve nothing as it assumes a small group of enlightened people saving the brain-washed masses.

Sometimes it takes a small renegade group of individuals to make things right and challenge the status quo. In times of crisis society needs protection from itself and its own stupidity or hubris by intelligent individuals.

Revolution and uprising historically is almost always the initiator of societal change because the only language corrupt powerful individuals understand is violence. It is the only thing they'll respond or compromise upon, nothing else will do in challenging their authority. The only solution to some corrupt individuals is death as they can't be disposed of in any other way.

People aren't doing anything now because the majority of the population has been rendered powerless in this current totalitarian environment, the totalitarian governments we live under currently are massive behemoth super structures. When the status quo collapses on itself and it eventually will people as a whole will be more forthcoming in acting against it where revolution will manifest itself everywhere. The cracks are showing up everywhere now and it's only a matter of time.

The supporters of the status quo currently are on the wrong side of history and they'll come to understand this one way or another.
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Re: International Capitalism

Postby Mark090480 » Sat May 12, 2018 8:43 am

People aren't powerless although many they think they are. Who is stopping you from protesting or making your own political party? Why you need the revolution? if people support you they will vote you in. If just 5% of the US population (15m) supported you, you would have enough funds to start your own network or paper. Alex Jones for example started from no where and now he is becoming a political force.
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Re: International Capitalism

Postby Meno_ » Sat May 12, 2018 2:48 pm

Marx saw this, wrote on it, did cause worldwide revolutions and look what happened?

Human nature happened. New 'leaders' defrauded the brainwashed masses, and the a huge systemic failure happened.

Been there, done that. Hippy type socialism failed big time, it transformed into a marketable commodity, with failure , crime and assassination everywhere marking its passage.

It turns out that the venture capitalists won over, small business owners , alongside the enormous internationals, possibly there is no known system other than the one now enjoyed in the US, pretty soon the world, democratic fascism!
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Re: International Capitalism

Postby Zero_Sum » Sat May 12, 2018 5:08 pm

Meno_ wrote:Marx saw this, wrote on it, did cause worldwide revolutions and look what happened?

Human nature happened. New 'leaders' defrauded the brainwashed masses, and the a huge systemic failure happened.

Been there, done that. Hippy type socialism failed big time, it transformed into a marketable commodity, with failure , crime and assassination everywhere marking its passage.

It turns out that the venture capitalists won over, small business owners , alongside the enormous internationals, possibly there is no known system other than the one now enjoyed in the US, pretty soon the world, democratic fascism!

Humanity can only be ruled by an iron fist, it keeps the trouble makers at bay.
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Re: International Capitalism

Postby Zero_Sum » Sat May 12, 2018 5:09 pm

Mark090480 wrote:People aren't powerless although many they think they are. Who is stopping you from protesting or making your own political party? Why you need the revolution? if people support you they will vote you in. If just 5% of the US population (15m) supported you, you would have enough funds to start your own network or paper. Alex Jones for example started from no where and now he is becoming a political force.

Alex Jones works for STRATFOR and largely himself. Hyper religious libertarianism solves nothing and capitalism is part of the problem.

Also, there are plenty of independent parties in the United States run by millionaires that essentially accomplish nothing. As for the poor underrepresented working class of the United States violent revolution is the only answer in a completely rigged system.
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Re: International Capitalism

Postby Mark090480 » Sat May 12, 2018 9:28 pm

Alex Jones works for STRATFOR and largely himself. Hyper religious libertarianism solves nothing and capitalism is part of the problem.


I'm just saying it can be done.

Also, there are plenty of independent parties in the United States run by millionaires that essentially accomplish nothing.


Meaning money can't buy you the people. If you give them a message they want to hear or what they like, e.g. Alex Jones, you'll get a political force.

Also, why revolution won't work. E.g. when you get power what do you do with the millions who disagree and call you a tyrant?
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Re: International Capitalism

Postby Zero_Sum » Sun May 13, 2018 4:12 am

Mark090480 wrote:
Alex Jones works for STRATFOR and largely himself. Hyper religious libertarianism solves nothing and capitalism is part of the problem.


I'm just saying it can be done.

Also, there are plenty of independent parties in the United States run by millionaires that essentially accomplish nothing.


Meaning money can't buy you the people. If you give them a message they want to hear or what they like, e.g. Alex Jones, you'll get a political force.

Also, why revolution won't work. E.g. when you get power what do you do with the millions who disagree and call you a tyrant?

I wouldn't be surprised if an audit revealed most of Alex Jones's money comes from a government intelligence bureau somewhere. Alex Jones by the way is an idiot, the only people that listen to him are other idiots.

All governments are tyrannical, but I myself rather have a tyrannical government that does its best to serve all people rather than a few individuals. That would be the best possible kind of tyrannical government anybody could hope for.
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Re: International Capitalism

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Mon May 14, 2018 8:27 pm

Peter Kropotkin wrote:
Zero_Sum wrote:An era where international corporations and banks hold entire nations hostage for their own self interests or preservation along with dictating power to governments themselves. There is effectively no national governing body of politik anymore, instead we have governments of corporations, financial syndicates, and international conglomerates.



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it is not enough for the doctor to announce a disease,
he must also state a cure for a patients disease....

we have the disease, what is the cure?

Kropotkin
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