Carleas wrote:WendyDarling wrote:Couplings that produce offspring have little to do with marriage in this day and age, so no one but you is talking about marriage.
1) Most kids are still born in marriages (40% are born out of wedlock, and less than 30% of kids born to white mothers; see
here), so the statistics about marriage still give us some insight.
2) Trends in marriage are likely to mirror trends in other coupling, especially if the indoctrination that's being claimed in this thread is happening.
3) James' claims here are about attractiveness, and again I propose that marriage is a fair proxy to tell us what people find attractive.
4) As we've discussed before, saying some data isn't good enough does not support your position. If you have better data, present better data. Until then, the best data we have shows that...
Zero_Sum wrote:An increase of interracial relationships by 50% of the population illustrates the success of this campaign of social engineering in eliminating cultural, racial, and ethnic cohesion of said host population.
Just to clarify, because I feel like this is being overstated, we're talking about 50%
of the population of interracial relationships, which was low to begin with. If X is true of 10% of relationships, and it increases by 50%, it's still the case the X is not true for 85% of relationships.
As for "eliminating...cohesion", I think the cohesion was always more familial than racial or ethnic, and in the past family was pretty strongly correlated with race and ethnicity. So the decoupling of family from race looks like a breakdown of that cohesion, but the cohesion was never actually racial, it was just incidentally racial.
Culture I think is different, because people from different racial backgrounds can be part of the same culture. Black and white college graduates are likely to be more culturally similar than a white college graduate and a white high school dropout, and even more so than a white urban American and a white rural Russian.
All of this is a bit off topic though, no? This thread used to be about what's appropriate sexual behavior, does any of this tie back? How did this get to be another thread about white genocide?
Without further delay, what part of 50% of the population cut in half do you not comprehend exactly? Do you think that is normal or inconsequential? Was it normal for when the Seminole tribe of Florida was cut in half by 50% in population? You will of course say it isn't comparable but it really is. You might even say it is karmic justice taking the position of the anti white social justice warrior or virtue signaler.
Race and ethnicity plays a big important role in culture which family revolves around where your denial or minimizing the importance of race just strikes me of irrational political correctness.
Your artificial notion of civic nationalism versus ethnic nationalism does nothing in defending your position but instead sounds like rehearsed social propaganda of the period of time we find ourselves living in. I am not a supporter of civic nationalism especially when one group of people is destroyed so that all others prosper. I am also against civic globalism. You and James started talking about race at first where I merely chimed in adding my own thoughts on the subject.
I mean, Roy Moore has been credibly accused of attempted forcible rape. I agree that there's a hysteria going on, but not every allegation brought to light during a hysteria is without merit.
It is all hysteria and useless accusations without evidence of an act. (15, 20, and 40 years after the alleged acts.)
I can easily conceive a world where political operatives bribe a bunch of women with significant amounts of money claiming sexual harassment or worse to take down a political opponent publicly.(Judging by the latest Alabama state election such a weaponized ploy was very successful in its intended goals.)
You on the other hand can't imagine such a world where things like that happen because your moral idealism clouds your ability to see reality. For you such a world is inconceivable and incomprehensible where it cannot exist, a sort of normalcy bias of yours. Moreover it seems you have an inability to understand false rape accusations or that some women use such false accusations as precedent of elevating their own social or individual power over others.
Of course this is the era of cognitive dissonance and this will only increase with time. This is as they say just the beginning.