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Re: Poverty in America

Postby Zero_Sum » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:40 am

Mr Reasonable wrote:It's not true that people in one position have necessarily never experienced the other.

There are a few rare exceptions but in no way constitutes a majority of people.
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"History is a set of lies agreed upon." - Napoleon Bonaparte

“To judge from the notions expounded by theologians, one must conclude that God created most men simply with a view to crowding hell.”― Marquis de Sade

“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
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Re: Poverty in America

Postby Mr Reasonable » Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:10 am

So try and think like the ones that do and see what happens.
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Re: Poverty in America

Postby Zero_Sum » Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:52 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:So try and think like the ones that do and see what happens.

Yeah, if it was that easy there would be no poverty and everybody would be doing it.
"The condition of man... is a condition of war of everyone against everyone."

"I put for the general inclination of all mankind, a perpetual and restless desire of power after power, that ceaseth only in death."

-Thomas Hobbes-


"History is a set of lies agreed upon." - Napoleon Bonaparte

“To judge from the notions expounded by theologians, one must conclude that God created most men simply with a view to crowding hell.”― Marquis de Sade

“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
― Robert A. Heinlein


"Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party gives a flying fuck about you." - Unknown Origin

“In the architecture of their life some may display Potemkin happiness in view of hiding the dark features of their fair weather relationship, preferring to set up a window dressing of fake satisfaction rather than being rejected as emotional outcasts." Erik Pevernagie
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Re: Poverty in America

Postby Zero_Sum » Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:54 pm

Faust wrote:I work for a small city in the U. S. I meet a fair number of poor people through my job. Many are on drugs. Some are mentally ill. Most have a debilitating reliance on anything or anyone but themselves. Many assume that the government will and should take care of their everyday needs, often because they have no friends or no friends with any kind of resources. Their families have sometimes disowned them - not because they are poor but because they are drug addicts and/or criminals.

I heard a story yesterday. There is a very successful restaurant in town. The wife of one of the owners cleans dorm rooms at a local college. Financially, she doesn't have to work at all. She loves her job. My guess is that health insurance is a major reason she works, but she and her husband would be fine if she didn't work at all or if she worked in the restaurant. They are both immigrants to this country.

I have known few poor people who could not clean dorm rooms for a living. One big problem that these poor people seem to have is that they find it difficult to pass background checks, for employment or for housing. They won't usually bother to apply for a job that requires a drug test. I know landlords that can overlook one eviction. But multiple evictions and a rap sheet makes it difficult. So one reason they live in unsafe and unacceptable apartments is that decent landlords won't rent to them. It's not really the amount of rent charged.

Overall, in my experience, a great many people who are poor are not poor because of government policies. They are poor because they have not, for a variety of reasons, made the choices that will allow them to escape poverty - or to have avoided it. They are not all born poor. Most of the poor people I encounter are white. That's just due to the demographics where I work.

There are some government policies that produce programs to help these people. few have any positive effect in the long run. That's because there doesn't seem to be much in the way of policies that change the way these people think and the decisions they make.

What policies would work?

Classic argument of poor people choosing or creating their own poverty bullshit. What really makes this thread funny is that its creator is supposedly a political liberal that call themselves champions or defenders of the poor. He must be a garden variety limousine liberal.
"The condition of man... is a condition of war of everyone against everyone."

"I put for the general inclination of all mankind, a perpetual and restless desire of power after power, that ceaseth only in death."

-Thomas Hobbes-


"History is a set of lies agreed upon." - Napoleon Bonaparte

“To judge from the notions expounded by theologians, one must conclude that God created most men simply with a view to crowding hell.”― Marquis de Sade

“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
― Robert A. Heinlein


"Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party gives a flying fuck about you." - Unknown Origin

“In the architecture of their life some may display Potemkin happiness in view of hiding the dark features of their fair weather relationship, preferring to set up a window dressing of fake satisfaction rather than being rejected as emotional outcasts." Erik Pevernagie
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Re: Poverty in America

Postby Zero_Sum » Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:01 pm

Faust wrote:I'm not talking about rising through the ranks at your present job. I'm talking about getting a better job. A few years ago, a large employer closed down where I live. The state offered a variety of training programs for the displaced workers. Almost no one availed themselves of those programs. Of any of them. I mean, out of hundreds, maybe one or two.

Those who remain unskilled when they have the opportunity to gain job skills have to take some responsibility for their lives. I'm not saying that this is the whole story. I am saying that america never promised people that it would be handed to them.


1. Doesn't talk about failing public educational systems of the United States for the general population.

2. Doesn't talk about the negative aspects of deindustrialization, foreign importation of workers, automation, stagnant wages, increased taxes, increasingly temp economy, poor access to healthcare, or jobs being outsourced overseas.

3. Doesn't talk about the criminalization of just about everything where felons for the large part are barred from the workforce through hiring discrimination. There is virtually no kind of national felon workforce rehabilitation program in place. If you're a felon you're practically an open target to be discriminated against.

4. Wants to lump a majority of poor people with drug or substance abusers and the mentally ill.

5. Wants to remind everybody that everything is the fault of poor people only and that poor people only have themselves to blame for their plight.
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"The condition of man... is a condition of war of everyone against everyone."

"I put for the general inclination of all mankind, a perpetual and restless desire of power after power, that ceaseth only in death."

-Thomas Hobbes-


"History is a set of lies agreed upon." - Napoleon Bonaparte

“To judge from the notions expounded by theologians, one must conclude that God created most men simply with a view to crowding hell.”― Marquis de Sade

“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
― Robert A. Heinlein


"Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party gives a flying fuck about you." - Unknown Origin

“In the architecture of their life some may display Potemkin happiness in view of hiding the dark features of their fair weather relationship, preferring to set up a window dressing of fake satisfaction rather than being rejected as emotional outcasts." Erik Pevernagie
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Re: Poverty in America

Postby Zero_Sum » Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:19 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:
Faust wrote:The ol' silver eagle to elderly militiamen gambit. Classic.



That's what I'm saying. Everyone wants a house and a car and a phone and some food and insurance, but nobody wants to hustle at all. Kids these days..."I worked my 40 hours! Why do I still have problems!?", or "I didn't earn anything, why don't I have anything!?".

They're all fucking crazy man. Blaming the corporations and the big boogie man government when what they need is right in front of them the whole time.

You need money for any kind of initial investment and lots of it.

Your mentality is I got rich and everybody else is lazy in not being able to follow similar in my own footsteps, classical textbook narcissism.
"The condition of man... is a condition of war of everyone against everyone."

"I put for the general inclination of all mankind, a perpetual and restless desire of power after power, that ceaseth only in death."

-Thomas Hobbes-


"History is a set of lies agreed upon." - Napoleon Bonaparte

“To judge from the notions expounded by theologians, one must conclude that God created most men simply with a view to crowding hell.”― Marquis de Sade

“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
― Robert A. Heinlein


"Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party gives a flying fuck about you." - Unknown Origin

“In the architecture of their life some may display Potemkin happiness in view of hiding the dark features of their fair weather relationship, preferring to set up a window dressing of fake satisfaction rather than being rejected as emotional outcasts." Erik Pevernagie
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Re: Poverty in America

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:24 am

And yours is classic, "no one's giving me what I want and it's too hard to get it myself and that's not fair". You're a young, white, able bodied, slightly intelligent male in the United States. What other advantages could you possibly expect? Who's supposed to pay for you?

For a guy who advocates a world as a jungle, you sure to seem upset about being a gazelle in a field full of lions.
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Re: Poverty in America

Postby Zero_Sum » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:04 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:And yours is classic, "no one's giving me what I want and it's too hard to get it myself and that's not fair". You're a young, white, able bodied, slightly intelligent male in the United States. What other advantages could you possibly expect? Who's supposed to pay for you?

For a guy who advocates a world as a jungle, you sure to seem upset about being a gazelle in a field full of lions.

Yes, who grew up as an orphan of which whose parents are both dead where I have practically no family left whatsoever. I've always been on my own since day one thrown to the wolves of the world since a very young age. Some advantage huh? No, I'll get what I want eventually I'm just believing the United States is going to have to collapse first. [Hopefully soon as I grow steadily impatient with each year.] Privileged being white? :lol: How long as a white guy have you lived in a neighborhood ghetto or lived in corporate housing with illegal Mexican migrants working a job? How many years have you lived on the streets homeless? White privilege? Don't bother me with such silly bullshit. You know nothing of the harshness, cruelty, or bitterness of survival and you also know nothing of the truest definition of despair.

It is indeed a world of the jungle but the jungle is under total control by the false narrative of moral authority which tends to rig competition in favor of those that call themselves moral authorities, in a real jungle there are no rules, moral qualms, or ethical valuations concerning survival. Someday in the future the real jungle not this controlled one that we have now will return where the caged lions will feast on their gazelle zookeepers that only pretend to be overlords upon escape.
"The condition of man... is a condition of war of everyone against everyone."

"I put for the general inclination of all mankind, a perpetual and restless desire of power after power, that ceaseth only in death."

-Thomas Hobbes-


"History is a set of lies agreed upon." - Napoleon Bonaparte

“To judge from the notions expounded by theologians, one must conclude that God created most men simply with a view to crowding hell.”― Marquis de Sade

“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
― Robert A. Heinlein


"Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party gives a flying fuck about you." - Unknown Origin

“In the architecture of their life some may display Potemkin happiness in view of hiding the dark features of their fair weather relationship, preferring to set up a window dressing of fake satisfaction rather than being rejected as emotional outcasts." Erik Pevernagie
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Re: Poverty in America

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:37 am

You should go to college.
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Re: Poverty in America

Postby Pandora » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:19 pm

College degree is not necessary to step over your competition. If you take a closer look around you you will see it to be the case. If you want a more comfortable life, you should concentrate instead on mastering the fine art of networking and strategic ass kissing.
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Re: Poverty in America

Postby Zero_Sum » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:46 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:You should go to college.

Assuming we don't have an economic collapse or go into a full world war and that I have the ability to keep a job long enough where I don't have to worry about having a roof over my head I did plan eventually trying to go back to school in becoming a plumber. Why a plumber? Many trade unions employ plumbers and residential or commercial plumbing companies make an obscene amount of money just for on site visits. Another reason is that I don't think robotics or automation will replace plumbers in the next fifty years, certainly not master plumbers or engineer plumbing.
"The condition of man... is a condition of war of everyone against everyone."

"I put for the general inclination of all mankind, a perpetual and restless desire of power after power, that ceaseth only in death."

-Thomas Hobbes-


"History is a set of lies agreed upon." - Napoleon Bonaparte

“To judge from the notions expounded by theologians, one must conclude that God created most men simply with a view to crowding hell.”― Marquis de Sade

“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
― Robert A. Heinlein


"Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party gives a flying fuck about you." - Unknown Origin

“In the architecture of their life some may display Potemkin happiness in view of hiding the dark features of their fair weather relationship, preferring to set up a window dressing of fake satisfaction rather than being rejected as emotional outcasts." Erik Pevernagie
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Re: Poverty in America

Postby Zero_Sum » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:15 pm

Pandora wrote:College degree is not necessary to step over your competition. If you take a closer look around you you will see it to be the case. If you want a more comfortable life, you should concentrate instead on mastering the fine art of networking and strategic ass kissing.


Yes, there is certainly a lot of that. My only problem is that I've never been good at kissing the ass of anybody and as far as social networking goes I have none.

In many areas of the United States it is all about who you know whether it's family or friends, in a single phrase occupational nepotism can describe many areas of our economy.

Why does mentally retarded Billy work for the company? It's because mentally retarded Billy's father is a manager there that got him the job pulling some strings. The United States isn't the quaint meritocracy it likes to describe itself under government.
"The condition of man... is a condition of war of everyone against everyone."

"I put for the general inclination of all mankind, a perpetual and restless desire of power after power, that ceaseth only in death."

-Thomas Hobbes-


"History is a set of lies agreed upon." - Napoleon Bonaparte

“To judge from the notions expounded by theologians, one must conclude that God created most men simply with a view to crowding hell.”― Marquis de Sade

“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
― Robert A. Heinlein


"Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party gives a flying fuck about you." - Unknown Origin

“In the architecture of their life some may display Potemkin happiness in view of hiding the dark features of their fair weather relationship, preferring to set up a window dressing of fake satisfaction rather than being rejected as emotional outcasts." Erik Pevernagie
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Re: Poverty in America

Postby Arminius » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:05 pm

Zero_Sum wrote:
Mr Reasonable wrote:You should go to college.

Assuming we don't have an economic collapse or go into a full world war and that I have the ability to keep a job long enough where I don't have to worry about having a roof over my head I did plan eventually trying to go back to school in becoming a plumber. Why a plumber? Many trade unions employ plumbers and residential or commercial plumbing companies make an obscene amount of money just for on site visits. Another reason is that I don't think robotics or automation will replace plumbers in the next fifty years, certainly not master plumbers or engineer plumbing.

Two days ago my wife and I ordered two plumbers. Plumbers are still needed. But the interesting question is whether they will be replaced by machines in the next fifty years. It is quite possible, because the technological development is an exponential one.
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Re: Poverty in America

Postby Zero_Sum » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:06 am

Arminius wrote:
Zero_Sum wrote:
Mr Reasonable wrote:You should go to college.

Assuming we don't have an economic collapse or go into a full world war and that I have the ability to keep a job long enough where I don't have to worry about having a roof over my head I did plan eventually trying to go back to school in becoming a plumber. Why a plumber? Many trade unions employ plumbers and residential or commercial plumbing companies make an obscene amount of money just for on site visits. Another reason is that I don't think robotics or automation will replace plumbers in the next fifty years, certainly not master plumbers or engineer plumbing.

Two days ago my wife and I ordered two plumbers. Plumbers are still needed. But the interesting question is whether they will be replaced by machines in the next fifty years. It is quite possible, because the technological development is an exponential one.

A basic standard plumber maybe but not a master plumber for the simple reason that they are the ones in concert with a building architect that lays out the plans where water or sewage pipes run all throughout a building [residential, commercial, and industrial.] and of course you need somebody to lay them out in construction also. Then you have septic tanks in removal and replacement as well. In large urban municipalities you have large networks of underground sewer tunnels that also requires the services of master plumbers. This is my understanding anyways.
"The condition of man... is a condition of war of everyone against everyone."

"I put for the general inclination of all mankind, a perpetual and restless desire of power after power, that ceaseth only in death."

-Thomas Hobbes-


"History is a set of lies agreed upon." - Napoleon Bonaparte

“To judge from the notions expounded by theologians, one must conclude that God created most men simply with a view to crowding hell.”― Marquis de Sade

“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
― Robert A. Heinlein


"Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party gives a flying fuck about you." - Unknown Origin

“In the architecture of their life some may display Potemkin happiness in view of hiding the dark features of their fair weather relationship, preferring to set up a window dressing of fake satisfaction rather than being rejected as emotional outcasts." Erik Pevernagie
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Re: Poverty in America

Postby Zero_Sum » Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:31 pm

"The condition of man... is a condition of war of everyone against everyone."

"I put for the general inclination of all mankind, a perpetual and restless desire of power after power, that ceaseth only in death."

-Thomas Hobbes-


"History is a set of lies agreed upon." - Napoleon Bonaparte

“To judge from the notions expounded by theologians, one must conclude that God created most men simply with a view to crowding hell.”― Marquis de Sade

“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
― Robert A. Heinlein


"Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party gives a flying fuck about you." - Unknown Origin

“In the architecture of their life some may display Potemkin happiness in view of hiding the dark features of their fair weather relationship, preferring to set up a window dressing of fake satisfaction rather than being rejected as emotional outcasts." Erik Pevernagie
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Re: Poverty in America

Postby Arminius » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:09 pm

Zero_Sum wrote:
Arminius wrote:
Zero_Sum wrote:Assuming we don't have an economic collapse or go into a full world war and that I have the ability to keep a job long enough where I don't have to worry about having a roof over my head I did plan eventually trying to go back to school in becoming a plumber. Why a plumber? Many trade unions employ plumbers and residential or commercial plumbing companies make an obscene amount of money just for on site visits. Another reason is that I don't think robotics or automation will replace plumbers in the next fifty years, certainly not master plumbers or engineer plumbing.

Two days ago my wife and I ordered two plumbers. Plumbers are still needed. But the interesting question is whether they will be replaced by machines in the next fifty years. It is quite possible, because the technological development is an exponential one.

A basic standard plumber maybe but not a master plumber for the simple reason that they are the ones in concert with a building architect that lays out the plans where water or sewage pipes run all throughout a building [residential, commercial, and industrial.] and of course you need somebody to lay them out in construction also. Then you have septic tanks in removal and replacement as well. In large urban municipalities you have large networks of underground sewer tunnels that also requires the services of master plumbers. This is my understanding anyways.

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Re: Poverty in America

Postby Mr Reasonable » Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:10 am

Zero, you don't wanna be a plumber man. Go and get a history degree and become a twisted high school teacher who tells the truth to the youth.
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Re: Poverty in America

Postby Zero_Sum » Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:16 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:Zero, you don't wanna be a plumber man. Go and get a history degree and become a twisted high school teacher who tells the truth to the youth.

This coming from somebody that disagrees with everything I believe in is amusing.

Your lack of sincerity is noted.
"The condition of man... is a condition of war of everyone against everyone."

"I put for the general inclination of all mankind, a perpetual and restless desire of power after power, that ceaseth only in death."

-Thomas Hobbes-


"History is a set of lies agreed upon." - Napoleon Bonaparte

“To judge from the notions expounded by theologians, one must conclude that God created most men simply with a view to crowding hell.”― Marquis de Sade

“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
― Robert A. Heinlein


"Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party gives a flying fuck about you." - Unknown Origin

“In the architecture of their life some may display Potemkin happiness in view of hiding the dark features of their fair weather relationship, preferring to set up a window dressing of fake satisfaction rather than being rejected as emotional outcasts." Erik Pevernagie
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Re: Poverty in America

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:28 am

You're terrible at reading people.
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Re: Poverty in America

Postby Zero_Sum » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:35 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:You're terrible at reading people.

It's the internet, what do you expect? Everybody is horrible at reading each other if it isn't video format.
"The condition of man... is a condition of war of everyone against everyone."

"I put for the general inclination of all mankind, a perpetual and restless desire of power after power, that ceaseth only in death."

-Thomas Hobbes-


"History is a set of lies agreed upon." - Napoleon Bonaparte

“To judge from the notions expounded by theologians, one must conclude that God created most men simply with a view to crowding hell.”― Marquis de Sade

“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
― Robert A. Heinlein


"Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party gives a flying fuck about you." - Unknown Origin

“In the architecture of their life some may display Potemkin happiness in view of hiding the dark features of their fair weather relationship, preferring to set up a window dressing of fake satisfaction rather than being rejected as emotional outcasts." Erik Pevernagie
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Re: Poverty in America

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:11 pm

Not me.
You see...a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.
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Re: Poverty in America

Postby Zero_Sum » Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:13 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:Not me.

What am I thinking about right now?
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Re: Poverty in America

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:14 pm

The inevitable destruction of society and/or your own personal grievances with it.
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Re: Poverty in America

Postby Zero_Sum » Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:20 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:The inevitable destruction of society and/or your own personal grievances with it.

Nope, I was thinking that I have to go to work in a hour and how I need to take a pass in the bathroom. You're horrible at reading people also. 8)
"The condition of man... is a condition of war of everyone against everyone."

"I put for the general inclination of all mankind, a perpetual and restless desire of power after power, that ceaseth only in death."

-Thomas Hobbes-


"History is a set of lies agreed upon." - Napoleon Bonaparte

“To judge from the notions expounded by theologians, one must conclude that God created most men simply with a view to crowding hell.”― Marquis de Sade

“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
― Robert A. Heinlein


"Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party gives a flying fuck about you." - Unknown Origin

“In the architecture of their life some may display Potemkin happiness in view of hiding the dark features of their fair weather relationship, preferring to set up a window dressing of fake satisfaction rather than being rejected as emotional outcasts." Erik Pevernagie
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Re: Poverty in America

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:22 pm

Zero_Sum wrote:
Mr Reasonable wrote:The inevitable destruction of society and/or your own personal grievances with it.

Nope, I was thinking that I have to go to work in a hour and how I need to take a pass in the bathroom. You're horrible at reading people also. 8)


Yeah but you hate work. So that counts as "thinking about a personal grievance". Also, I know that you never stop thinking about the destruction of society, so for you to say that you're not is just a lie. I understand though. You want me to be wrong, and you're not used to having the kind of control that you'd have in a game of someone guessing your thoughts. But don't lie man. You're better than that. I was right and you know it.
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