On Poor White America Versus Liberal Misunderstandings.

There has been a great deal of interest in poor white America by liberals who they blame helped Donald Trump get elected. As a rare educated poor white American myself who is also not a Trump supporter I would like to opine on this as a white American who has been all too familiar with poverty his entire life where I would like to dispel some myths regarding our plight.

First off, it is a myth that the most wealthy of Americans are white Europeans, this hasn’t been the case for almost a hundred years now. Actually the most wealthy of Americans are Ashkenazi Jews who don’t identify themselves racially as being white or even culturally European. Also, other racial or ethnic groups mainly through foreign immigration have more wealth accumulated than even the most traditionally white very wealthy Americans do. There are public statistics for this and are not hard to find with an internet search engine. White Americans in no way constitutes the most wealthy in the United States and for whatever reason get lumped up with Ashkenazi Jews. What an interesting subject it would be if people started talking about the disproportionate amount of wealth accumulated by Ashkenazi or Hasidic Jews. Public discourse would change dramatically in this country but I don’t foresee this being the forefront of national discourse any time soon for obvious reasons.

Secondly, poor whites have been put to the back of the bus economically for several decades with racial affirmative action programs which is why we don’t see our struggle as being the same to a poor African American or Mexican American. As long as this sort of government intervening protectionism of so called minorities exist at our collective expense (demise) poor white America will remain suspicious of everything and everyone. Poor white America has no friends or allies where we are left to fend for ourselves the most part. So no, poor African Americans and Mexicans are not our allies where they can’t even comprehend our struggle as the most ignored or reviled class of America. There is nothing more hated or despised in the United States than poor white people. We are given a free pass at every turn to mock, ridicule, and ignore by everybody which probably explains the low mortality rate of poor white Americans especially given latest drug usage epidemics. You put one and two together where it isn’t fucking rocket science to comprehend. When concerning about helping poor low income America everybody always talks about black or hispanic social issues but when the poor white population comes to the fray there is only dead silence to be heard everywhere. Nobody wants to talk about it and nobody cares.

Now, is it stupidity that most of poor white America votes for the zionist neoconservative republican party that just like the democrats only represent the interests of corporate Wallstreet? Yes, it is! I’ll be the first to admit that it is what a majority of those within the same socio economic ladder as I am are not intelligent enough to see it for themselves. As a poor white American I’ve become so disillusioned to the point I don’t even believe in voting anymore. It is an ongoing tragedy that few like myself are forced to contend with in silence. The political elite in this country learned long ago that to control the underlings of the white population you first prey upon them with religion, duty, easy money, and patriotism of which a majority of white people are proned towards. It is one of the reasons why people of poor white America have become mindless drones of zionist crony capitalism today which has been a successful social engineering exploit of theirs for the course of almost an entire century. It is why a very zionist neoconservative like Donald Trump was elected by this particular demographic very easily.

I have no illusions that Donald Trump doesn’t give a fuck about poor white America whatsoever. I know this all too well.

I’m always amused that liberals, socialists, and marxists are perplexed by poor white people given the fact they never make any attempt to understand us as a demographic or class of people. If you don’t try to communicate with us, what exactly do you expect? From what I can see all your assumptions about us are all terribly inept, laughable, or fool hardy.

Have any of you really tried reaching out to the most intelligent of us to see what our beliefs or perceptions are on things? No, I didn’t think so either!

On Donald Trump’s wall from the perspective of a poor white American,

I have already stated elsewhere that I highly doubt Donald Trump will live up to his campaign promises of building a wall on the American Mexican border. It’s just not going to happen despite people wishing or wanting it to happen. Let’s talk about why poor white America supports it even if we were duped into believing it will happen by a known zionist neoconservative president that won’t live up to his campaign promises. (Intentionally might I add also)

First off, imagine you’re a poor white American whose wages and living standards have been decimated since the 1970’s and where your own cities or communities have been taken over by hordes of Mexicans that are only increasing your economic decline into the abyss even further.

These same Mexicans pose to turn you into the new racial and cultural minority within the next fifty years.

Of course you’re going to want to build a wall and limit immigration! What’s worse is that as a poor white American you’re faced with foreign population replacement, job automation, and corporate job outsourcing. Basically if you’re a poor white American in terms of economic class warfare you’re surrounded on a three front war that seeks to eradicate you. This explains the misery, despair, and anger of poor white America. This three front economic class warfare waged on the white working class is basically overkill and shows you the position of those who control things are in having no remorse for their actions in who they destroy. I’m not sure of any other way to explain this beyond that.

I can believe that. The Ashkenazi are smarter (verbally) and they stick together (racist). They control the media, hollywood, banking, and probably universities and may be overrepresented in science as well. Once in control, they will only hire their own kind. The poor whites are too busy saving up for a new tattoo to showcase on facebook.

The problem is they look similar in appearance that they get confused for white Europeans. It is from them where all wealth is controlled not white Europeans but of course being that our opposition is Jewish controlled that confusion is intentional. It’s much easier to blame all the world’s problems on white Europeans or whiteness than the Jewish elephant in the room. The Ashkenazi Jews are the real minority of people that control and horde wealth in nations of the western sphere of influence. (Them and their various collaborators.)

Yeah you nailed it. I don’t see what to do about it though. Ashkenazi are blue-eyed and sometimes even blond. Do you ever watch Brother Nathanael?

Yes, I’ve seen some of his videos. Yeah that’s the problem, they like to associate with white Europeans when it offers them camouflage from their own activities and then also distance themselves away when it no longer serves them an advantage.

Ok, if we’ve both watched the same BN videos, then we’re both aware how they preserve their own interests of racial and religious bias while endorsing the perversion of those of others. They preach equality, but they aren’t egalitarian. They preach tolerance for homosexuals, but wouldn’t tolerate it for themselves. Etc, etc. In that light, it sure seems a well-contrived conspiracy to eliminate the christians. Whether it’s a conspiracy or side-effect, it seems to be working. They have control of corporate power and government while also playing the victim card. There’s no battling that beast.

Otto wrote:

More importantly, these same Mexicans are predominantly Catholic. This is why Rome will never allow “a wall” to be built.

I’m not a christian as I am an atheist however with that being said their beliefs of the moshiach is certainly at odds with the christian belief in the second coming of christ as I am familiar with it all having studied it. Most people are not familiar with this religious conflict or contradiction between christianity and judaism.

Yes, it’s interesting that the current pope is a marxist jesuit with a history.

Well, most christians aren’t christian, but I was merely using the word as shorthand for white european. Essentially, that seems to be what the war is: Jews vs Christians and I think atheism is furthering the cause of the jews because many of the jews are indeed atheists. That’s what BN is on about.

The nuclear family represents the christian narrative in shunning homosexuality and sexual perversion in general in order to maintain a proper family unit that strengthens the race. Undermining the christian moral therefore undermines the strength of the race since homos don’t produce children and neither do empowered women. Breaking down the family is essential to winning the war and convincing folks there is no god certainly helps accomplish that by removing any restraints from being perverted, not marrying, getting divorce and whatever-else that furthers the goal of less reproduction and more fatherless children who are strongly correlated to crime.

I am an atheist where I don’t even get a long with most other atheists. Most atheists go towards socialism because they’ve supplemented the power of the state with god. I admit a lot of atheists can be conceited or arrogant.

Then there’s naturally skeptical atheists like me (an atheist minority) that reject mostly everything including the power of the state. Also, as an atheist I’m pro family values.

Depends on the Jew as I have brushed shoulders with them, unorthodox Jews are very atheistic in that they give lip service to Judaism just to enjoy its group advantages however Orthodox Jews on the other hand believe in literal religious interpretation of everything they do.

(They’re also binge drinking alcoholics at least the ones I interacted with.)

One of my old workplaces I had to deal with an orthodox Jewish community for almost three years as the business I worked for primarily made most of its money from them. Was very eye opening and for the most part they mock Christianity often. Christians have no idea!

I personally have disdain for all Abrahamic religions. I care not for Christianity, Judaism, or Islam. For me all three religions are a plague on western civilization and the world. I really hate semitic morality, values, ethics, and authority of all kinds. Semitic morality is slave morality, doesn’t matter if it is Christianity, Judaism, or Islam.

Serendipper, if you’re a Christian you’ll have to forgive my bluntness as I make it no secret of my disdain for Christianity, however I am not going to tell you to stop being Christian or anything. That would be an exercise in futility. That would be just stupid, if you want you can debate me or converse with me about that. I noticed that you ran off after my last post.

I meant no hard feelings and you probably took that as an insult given your embraced worldview. You of course must realize that not everybody shares your religious convictions.

Are you sure you’re not agnostic?

I definitely get what you mean in that works-centered religions where they pay lip-service are not real theistic religions, but there are outright atheistic jews as well.

To be sure, When asked, “What is your present religion, if any?” virtually all Israeli Jews say they are Jewish – and almost none say they have no religion – even though roughly half describe themselves as secular and one-in-five do not believe in God. pewforum.org/2016/03/08/isra … d-society/

Yes, it’s a 2000yr old war. BN has indicated that the pharisee jews, who persist to this day as Talmudic jews, are, by definition, anti-christ. He uses the example of Sarah Silverman on stage saying she would gladly crucify christ again to drive home his point.

So you don’t think atheism facilitates the destruction of the european ethnicity? Does atheism strengthen the european race? If so, by what means?

Atheism is an ancient Greek tradition going back to classical skepticism in philosophy moreover we atheists don’t want to be invaded by Islam just like Christians because the only thing Muslims despise more than Christians or Jews are atheists. Under sharia law the punishment for atheism is death. No, I’m not an agnostic. Literally in my belief god is not even a possibility. Just like christians there are a variety of culturally and racially aware atheists. There are even pro family atheists like myself.

There is no inherent contradiction of a person being atheist yet at the same time being culturally and racially aware that upholds pro family values. One doesn’t need to believe in god for this to manifest.

Many like to falsely align atheists with leftist politics or marxists but this simply isn’t true of all of us.(Although I do understand how a majority could be thought as that.) As an atheist I’m more sympathetic with European indigenous pagan beliefs even though I am not a pagan myself. Certainly out of concern for mere cultural aesthetics historical European paganism I view as being far superior to that of Christianity. I’m like a modern day atheistic Julian Apostate.

Yes, I’ve heard Jews call Jesus a bastard son of a whore in conversations. Christians are terribly naive understanding the so called chosenites.

Oh no, you’re cool. I lean theist and I’m currently studying eastern religions looking for parallels with christianity. I’m not sure I accept the mainstream interpretation of the bible, but it doesn’t matter. It’s all a game and whatever you choose to believe is just how you choose to play the game, so you won’t offend me by bashing religions. I’m just looking at the good of society in the context of religion merely for something to do and not that it really makes a difference because, to me and how I believe right now, reality isn’t real anyway; I just like puzzles.

The hindu/buddhist belief is that all life is god playing the “persona” or wearing the mask of who they are in this world as a means of some sort of surprise because being an all-knowing and eternally existing being sucks. Jesus realized that, beat the game, but decided to die anyway in an effort to get the Word out. Or something like that. Honestly, I’m not entirely clear yet.

Anyway, you’re cool. Carry on!

How do you figure all of this came about? How is god not even a possibility? I mean, we could show how the universe came about without needing a god, but then how do we show a god could not be a hands-off observer? How can we be absolutely sure?

Sure, but not everyone is as smart as you. That’s the thing.

Probably because of the christian right.

Yes, I don’t understand the love affair christians have with the chosen people.

As it always comes to most people’s surprise I studied world religions first before becoming an atheist. Eastern religions are interesting to study but lack individualism.

For me there is no universal design or objective to all of life. From there it is rather easy to deduce that there is no god. Of course for those that believe in god this kind of thought comes off horrific.

Yes, you’re speaking of a lack of social cohesion appeal to atheism but as an atheist I believe with understanding that could be rectified. Yes, we atheists certainly don’t have a very good reputation with the christian right.

Well, it’s because Jews created Christianity. That’s one of many problems with Christianity that I have.

It’s not horrific, it’s essential. If the goal is a surprise, then why plan anything?

They created it? I thought they tried to destroy it by crucifying jesus, but it backfired and made him a martyr.

I have to step away for a bit to get some things done, but I’m anxious to continue this when I return. Good stuff!