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Immigration as value-selecting

Postby UrGod » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:43 am

When a nation allows mass immigration into itself, it is loosening its standards, its values. This represents a slackening of self-valuing, a weakening of the consistency of the valuing entity/entities.

When immigration is curbed, this represents a closure and return to a more consistent valuing standard.

Optimum valuing is found in a balance between mass immigration and no immigration. No immigration represents not selecting at all, or selecting too severely, whereas mass immigration represents selecting based on insufficient standards.

This issue of immigration and the balance between too much and too little immigration has an economic corollary, in the job and wages markets. You need influx of talent and labor, and capital, into your nation, but too much influx of talent and labor displaces the current talent and labor that already exists there, driving wages down by reducing the competitiveness of existing labor by flooding the market with 'workers'; likewise, too much influx of capital from outside will disturb existing capital in the nation, causing destabilizations of existing markets and standards/patterns.

In terms of this issue of influx of capital, think about someone winning the lottery: some average joe suddenly wins 100 million dollars. How does this affect him and his life, his standards and self-value? It disturbs and intoxicates him. He is not prepared to value such an immense wealth, so that immense wealth instead values him.
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Re: Immigration as value-selecting

Postby James S Saint » Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:52 am

Remove all of the skin from your body.
See how diverse you get.
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Re: Immigration as value-selecting

Postby UrGod » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:37 am

That literally makes no sense at all.
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Re: Immigration as value-selecting

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:08 pm

Void_X_Zero wrote:When a nation allows mass immigration into itself, it is loosening its standards, its values. This represents a slackening of self-valuing, a weakening of the consistency of the valuing entity/entities.

Either that, or it means the the population wasn't substantial enough to form a society. Thats the case in the USA, which consists entirely of immigrants and has always derived its greatest creative genius from immigration, and bloodlines new to the country.

Of course this does not mean that immigration should just come form anywhere.
People were sent back all the time if they were in shitty health or talked or looked like morons.

When immigration is curbed, this represents a closure and return to a more consistent valuing standard.

It could mean that, at least-
it doesn't guarantee it.
It stil relies on whether there is a viable, revivable standard left. Which in the case of Holland, for example, I question.

Optimum valuing is found in a balance between mass immigration and no immigration. No immigration represents not selecting at all, or selecting too severely, whereas mass immigration represents selecting based on insufficient standards.

Yes. Mass immigration is just giving up on the present society.
And to be honest Im stating to suspect this is actually the ground, the reason, it may be a scheme played from very high up to replenish the gene pool with more vital, less conditioned, more "healthy savage" type blood.

I dont put it beyond them. Certainly not beyond the Germans, who are evidently the ones coordinating all this.
It may all be eugenics.

Which would be the reason why the Germans have taken in mostly Turks, which are on the whole powerful monsters of energy, and all the other countries take in Arabs, who are a far broader, looser, and poorer group, not as concentrated in force and intelligence. Turks and Arabs do not get along.

So this ties in perfectly with your OP - the Germans understand immigration, they understand that it is either a means or a poison, whereas the other nations just suppose it is nothing at all, and just have it happen to them, as they have life happen to them in general.

This issue of immigration and the balance between too much and too little immigration has an economic corollary, in the job and wages markets. You need influx of talent and labor, and capital, into your nation, but too much influx of talent and labor displaces the current talent and labor that already exists there, driving wages down by reducing the competitiveness of existing labor by flooding the market with 'workers'; likewise, too much influx of capital from outside will disturb existing capital in the nation, causing destabilizations of existing markets and standards/patterns.

And on a more eugenic, basic, "evil", a-human scale it means revitalizing the gene pool.
In this sense you can also see why the Swedish and German governments basically encourage rape.

Finally that starts to make sense to me. It was too insane to be just stupidity - it makes perfect sense in terms of a philosophy of eugenic that bases itself on the fact that Europes birthrate is declining, which generally is taken to mean that the vigour of biology is in decline.

In terms of this issue of influx of capital, think about someone winning the lottery: some average joe suddenly wins 100 million dollars. How does this affect him and his life, his standards and self-value? It disturbs and intoxicates him. He is not prepared to value such an immense wealth, so that immense wealth instead values him.

Haha, yes.
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Re: Immigration as value-selecting

Postby UrGod » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:05 pm

Holy crap, you're right.
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Re: Immigration as value-selecting

Postby MagsJ » Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:24 pm

There was obviously a reason behind the (unwanted) influx of migrants, but.. and I'm sorry to say, why would they think that the Europeans (or anyone else for that matter) would want to mate with such males, but the current influx of only young male stock would explain that influx.

Perhaps Europes' new profanity should be 'fuck me' rather than 'fuck off'.
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Re: Immigration as value-selecting

Postby WendyDarling » Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:23 pm

I see no logic in reinvigorating white Europeans with mud blood Turks, just like it doesn't hold true with African injections into white European breeding. It's an outright destruction of native caucasians.
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Re: Immigration as value-selecting

Postby UrGod » Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:34 am

Euro "caucasians" seem unwilling to breed with one another as well as unwilling to resist mass immigration. So their "fitness" is perhaps seriously in question..
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Re: Immigration as value-selecting

Postby WendyDarling » Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:00 am

Who says that they are unwilling to breed with one another? From what I'm reading its due to the combination of recession and a significant change in modern values (when God died so did families).

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I don't understand these charts either. What 1000 women? Are they all in their reproductive years, the charts don't say.
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Re: Immigration as value-selecting

Postby UrGod » Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:44 pm

That chart proves my point. There are not enough Euro caucasians forming families and having children. Of course there are many reasons for this.
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Re: Immigration as value-selecting

Postby James S Saint » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:53 pm

It is all 100% deceit.
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
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It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

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Re: Immigration as value-selecting

Postby WendyDarling » Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:36 pm

What's deceit JSS?

Still waiting for someone to explain that chart I posted? What 1000 women? If it's any 1000 women, that's 70-80% (with current baby boomer population trends) of menopausal females and female children who are too young bear children, so that only leaves 200-300 women per 1000 in their childbearing years and are those results of 12-14 really so bad with those true numbers?
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Re: Immigration as value-selecting

Postby surreptitious75 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:18 pm

I cannot see that chart Wen but on the site it states that the European birth rate per 1000 people is between 6 to 14 per cent for each country
Ireland is the highest so will have 140 babies born each year for every 1000 people. That seems very high but it would be reduced or cancelled
by the number of deaths each year. That figure is high because up till last year abortion was illegal in Ireland and also Irish families tend to be
large anyway. But now that abortion is legal the birth rate may decline
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Re: Immigration as value-selecting

Postby UrGod » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:11 pm

Indeed, abortion is among the greatest evils (irrationalities) that is contributing to this problem. It is a shame that Ireland allowed itself to be taken over by the demon Soros.
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