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Postby WendyDarling » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:17 pm

Peter Kropotkin wrote:
WendyDarling wrote:Head to toe black clothing and head covering with the face partially or fully masked is ANTIFA. God, don't you pay attention to anything?


K: so anyone wearing head to toe black clothing is antifa....
better not tell my boss, he is antifa ...... please, show me
SOME evidence that this is in fact, Antifa...... how do I KNOW,
that this is antifa? the police around here fit the exact same description
of Antifa that you described..... how do I know who is Antifa...
what is their secret password? come on, you must have some proof
of some kind that the people in the picture in the left is Antifa....
what is your evidence or what is your proof.....

Kropotkin

Stop intentionally leaving out information that you have been given, you are just like the fake news trying to spin inaccuracies by omission. If your boss wears a partial or full mask to work, then yes, he is an ANTIFA criminal too. Be careful when he pulls out his water bottle, it'll be weaponized.

[EDIT: Navy, dark blue may also be used by ANTIFA]
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Re: the second american civil war began today....

Postby Fixed Cross » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:53 pm

The Right should stop behaving like Chamberlain vs Hitler.
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Re: the second american civil war began today....

Postby Fixed Cross » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:09 pm

The left destroys whole populations just to feel good about itself.
It destroyed Libya just to be able to say "I stood up against a tyrant".

The more the left kills, and it has killed far more than any other political, imperial or religious movement in history, the more leftists huddle with themselves rubbing their hands trying to feel good about themselves, moral.

They are all murderers.
Ive exhausted my capacity to be mild on them.

They are going to bring death to billions, if we let them.
So we won't.
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Re: the second american civil war began today....

Postby Fixed Cross » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:43 pm

The left always, without exception, works like PK - a simple contempt for the practice of reading.
A leftist will always already know what he will say before with a contemptuous grin he glances over the thing he has to respond to.
Stalin, Mao, Hitler, the DMC, it is all the same strategy - contempt for the word. Pol Pot is the ultimate Socialist.
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Re: the second american civil war began today....

Postby Fixed Cross » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:52 pm

Its never a matter of whether a leftist started out a sa good or bad person.
Usually they've their family and friends.
Its a matter of how far they go to lie to themselves, how they treat those that aren't in their inner circle that come to them with ideas and thoughts.

Ive lived among leftist hard line to soft line, the only one that escaped it is a woman who reads two books a day.
Right wing politics is the respect for the long term.

It seeks to conserve what is of value.

One does not need to be libertarian to be conservative.
In fact, to want to reduce the government to its original state is rather progressive, if retropgrogressive - conservative right now mean only to preserve these institutions the one deems of value.

Which institutions are stil of value?
The presidency, because it is the result of true democracy.
Not ochlocracy, not the will of the mob (cities, ever since Babylon and Rome have been mob-affairs, who Caesar could come to power)
but the average will of all the industries and creeds and backgrounds of all the nation.

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Because I speak of respect for the long term, I would like to mention that in my opinion the US has been at civil war since John F Kennedy was assassinated.
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Re: the second american civil war began today....

Postby Fixed Cross » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:14 pm

Kennedy stood before a precipice, and we will never know what he would have done.

Johnson obscured the industrial financial issues successfully by focussing on civil rights and intensifying the war in Vietnam.

Its not in anyones interest to speculate as to the precise actors in the ignition of the superdeepstate. Rather, to disclose the reasoning behind its existence will bring the most benefit. In such a way no human interests are compromised, rather everybody gets enlightened.

There is an ontological ground to the deep state; humanity's power to destroy itself.
Not every human can be concerned and involved with the security of the planet. This must be trusted to people who know how to scheme and counterscheme.
There is no other way. Its on logical lockdown. The superdeepstates function is to safeguard nuclear technology and limit its proliferation. To this end it must continue to exist.
A network of inferior tasks comes down on them by necessity as a consequence of that abysmal responsibility; essential they are the core of the military world.

So far, their work on the people has largely been to keep them compliant with the task of making war against other great powers so as to subdue these and keep the anglosaxon supremacy intact.

We've got to decide if we are in favour of this aim or not.
Not that this will resolve everything - but much.

Is someone okay with China and Germany running the world? If so, then he US can do with less security apparatus. That is something to consider at least hypothetically, to see the bigger picture.
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Re: the second american civil war began today....

Postby James S Saint » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:25 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:The left destroys whole populations just to feel good about itself.

Destroying ALL "nations" is the goal. That is what sets the environmental stage for Globalism (we discussed this years ago). Antifa is the team (UN's version of ISIS).
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
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It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

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Re: the second american civil war began today....

Postby URUZ » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:28 pm

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The silent majority supports Trump

You say that yet he actually got less votes than Hillary in the election



False. There was widespread election fraud, illegals voting, dead people voting, and even if you take straight numbers anyway the "Hillary majority" came only from CA and NY. Lol. This is why we have an electoral college system, so two states can't run the whole country.
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Re: the second american civil war began today....

Postby URUZ » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:36 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:Its never a matter of whether a leftist started out a sa good or bad person.
Usually they've their family and friends.
Its a matter of how far they go to lie to themselves, how they treat those that aren't in their inner circle that come to them with ideas and thoughts.

Ive lived among leftist hard line to soft line, the only one that escaped it is a woman who reads two books a day.
Right wing politics is the respect for the long term.

It seeks to conserve what is of value.

One does not need to be libertarian to be conservative.
In fact, to want to reduce the government to its original state is rather progressive, if retropgrogressive - conservative right now mean only to preserve these institutions the one deems of value.

Which institutions are stil of value?
The presidency, because it is the result of true democracy.
Not ochlocracy, not the will of the mob (cities, ever since Babylon and Rome have been mob-affairs, who Caesar could come to power)
but the average will of all the industries and creeds and backgrounds of all the nation.

::

Because I speak of respect for the long term, I would like to mention that in my opinion the US has been at civil war since John F Kennedy was assassinated.


Yes, and as Styx noted recently the current radicalism paradigm in the US is breaking down. Rather it is peaking, which precedes its breakdown. The Left is inherently radical, and drives all radical politics and culture in the west as either response or counter-response. It is fundamentally Marxist and -- funny enough -- hyper-moralistic.

As the political Right starts to counter-respond to Left radicalism and becomes more radical itself, namely its fringe grows, the center will continue to coalesce around sanity, traditional conservatism, common sense, and capitalism. This is the stability in the middle of the Left and Right, and the radicalizing of the fringes of Left and Right is literally nothing more than a sign of that coalescing center of stable sanity. The fringes will be pushed further out, where they continue to grow for the next 1-2 years but only in their fringe camps, while they actually lose supporters en mass as they flee to the center again. AlSharpton wants to tear down the Jefferson memorials, lol. When you have leftists crying about how evil George Washington was, the symbolic beginning and founder of America, and when this cry is actually pushed into the mainstream by corrupt and opportunistic politicians and media, you can be sure that such a position is in its death phase.
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Re: the second american civil war began today....

Postby Meno_ » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:37 pm

James S Saint wrote:
Fixed Cross wrote:The left destroys whole populations just to feel good about itself.

Destroying ALL "nations" is the goal. That is what sets the environmental stage for Globalism (we discussed this years ago). Antifa is the team (UN's version of ISIS).



Who is to blame? The international corporations, who do not appreciate anything but profit, and it is The international corporations who basically benefit from globalism. This is the nature of.capital, to seek profit irrespective of who buys.

The war is a war between those who seek maximization of profits, and those seeking identity in the traits associated with regional marketplaces of value.
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Re: the second american civil war began today....

Postby WendyDarling » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:55 pm

When you have leftists crying about how evil George Washington was, the symbolic beginning and founder of America, and when this cry is actually pushed into the mainstream by corrupt and opportunistic politicians and media, you can be sure that such a position is in its death phase.

I wouldn't go that far. Do leftists by and large recover from their delusions and creep back to the center politically where sanity resides? I don't think so and I know how strong delusions can be...believe me! :wink:
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Re: the second american civil war began today....

Postby WendyDarling » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:56 pm

Meno_ wrote:
James S Saint wrote:
Fixed Cross wrote:The left destroys whole populations just to feel good about itself.

Destroying ALL "nations" is the goal. That is what sets the environmental stage for Globalism (we discussed this years ago). Antifa is the team (UN's version of ISIS).



Who is to blame? The international corporations, who do not appreciate anything but profit, and it is The international corporations who basically benefit from globalism. This is the nature of.capital, to seek profit irrespective of who buys.

The war is a war between those who seek maximization of profits, and those seeking identity in the traits associated with regional marketplaces of value.

That would ultimately be the Jews, their racket if there ever was one.
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Re: the second american civil war began today....

Postby URUZ » Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:22 pm

WendyDarling wrote:
When you have leftists crying about how evil George Washington was, the symbolic beginning and founder of America, and when this cry is actually pushed into the mainstream by corrupt and opportunistic politicians and media, you can be sure that such a position is in its death phase.

I wouldn't go that far. Do leftists by and large recover from their delusions and creep back to the center politically where sanity resides? I don't think so and I know how strong delusions can be...believe me! :wink:


Of course they never recover, they are beyond healing. But what I meant is that the large group of more moderate center-left people who are right now sort of supporting the far Left radicals will simply stop supporting them. Then the radical Left will return to the shadows of the fringe where they belong, and the entire cultural political paradigm will shift back to normalcy.
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Re: the second american civil war began today....

Postby WendyDarling » Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:44 pm

What are the behaviors of the radical left?
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Re: the second american civil war began today....

Postby URUZ » Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:39 pm

WendyDarling wrote:What are the behaviors of the radical left?


Come on, do you really need that spelled out? I'm sure you know what they are.
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Re: the second american civil war began today....

Postby Fixed Cross » Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:54 pm

Void_X_Zero wrote:
Fixed Cross wrote:Its never a matter of whether a leftist started out a sa good or bad person.
Usually they've their family and friends.
Its a matter of how far they go to lie to themselves, how they treat those that aren't in their inner circle that come to them with ideas and thoughts.

Ive lived among leftist hard line to soft line, the only one that escaped it is a woman who reads two books a day.
Right wing politics is the respect for the long term.

It seeks to conserve what is of value.

One does not need to be libertarian to be conservative.
In fact, to want to reduce the government to its original state is rather progressive, if retropgrogressive - conservative right now mean only to preserve these institutions the one deems of value.

Which institutions are stil of value?
The presidency, because it is the result of true democracy.
Not ochlocracy, not the will of the mob (cities, ever since Babylon and Rome have been mob-affairs, who Caesar could come to power)
but the average will of all the industries and creeds and backgrounds of all the nation.

::

Because I speak of respect for the long term, I would like to mention that in my opinion the US has been at civil war since John F Kennedy was assassinated.


Yes, and as Styx noted recently the current radicalism paradigm in the US is breaking down. Rather it is peaking, which precedes its breakdown. The Left is inherently radical, and drives all radical politics and culture in the west as either response or counter-response. It is fundamentally Marxist and -- funny enough -- hyper-moralistic.

As the political Right starts to counter-respond to Left radicalism and becomes more radical itself, namely its fringe grows, the center will continue to coalesce around sanity, traditional conservatism, common sense, and capitalism. This is the stability in the middle of the Left and Right, and the radicalizing of the fringes of Left and Right is literally nothing more than a sign of that coalescing center of stable sanity. The fringes will be pushed further out, where they continue to grow for the next 1-2 years but only in their fringe camps, while they actually lose supporters en mass as they flee to the center again. AlSharpton wants to tear down the Jefferson memorials, lol. When you have leftists crying about how evil George Washington was, the symbolic beginning and founder of America, and when this cry is actually pushed into the mainstream by corrupt and opportunistic politicians and media, you can be sure that such a position is in its death phase.


This could be right.
Whatever comes at us through media of any kind gives an impression of a rattled world, but this is simply necessary because rattling people sells, and making them calm and contended does not sell much at all.

So all the news we do get is meant to destabilize, to pertain to the fringes. But this makes these fringes less and less appealing.
Agitation is however still the lifeblood of the media.
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Re: the second american civil war began today....

Postby WendyDarling » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:44 am

Void_X_Zero wrote:
WendyDarling wrote:What are the behaviors of the radical left?


Come on, do you really need that spelled out? I'm sure you know what they are.

Yes. Many lefties consider themselves moderate lefties, perhaps erroneously, that's why I asked for clarification.

Are the violent sorts the radicals or the emotionally challenged, you know, those that easily lose what little common sense and rationality they have instantly when triggered? Both are dangerous and while most of the crazy lefties aren't overtly violent, they are unable to reason in line with reality.
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Postby URUZ » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:14 am

Yes. It is simple destruction of reasoning. This defines the Left.

They are a mob, and devolve into one at a slight touch. But leftism itself is as Fixed said, a kind of ideology of dreaming. Western society needs this. Both right and left are needed, as I've said before.

Extremes test the limits for a while, then ebb like an ocean tide.
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Postby WendyDarling » Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:33 pm

Left idealism is too extreme...period. It doesn't need to be violent, just stupid like it is. They are progressing a global communist agenda whether they are smart enough to realize it or not.
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Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:34 pm

Leadership should not be determined by race, but rather, IQ. IQ must be 125 or above to be a politician.

However the IQ test is flawed so we would need a better, more realistic IQ tests.

Whites tend to have higher IQs, but any black with a high IQ would be allowed to lead.

For instance, in the Eureka TV show, there are only 2 black people in the city, but they belong there and are a nice addition to the town.
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Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Aug 18, 2017 5:10 pm

Thats the case now, Trixie
The world is regulated by investment banks.
These banks operate on the judgments of "quants", people with IQs of 140 and very far beyond.

IQ doesn't give any kind of indication as to the quality of someones character, the degree of passion he is able to experience, whether he is empathic or sociopathic - it just gives the capacity to solve analytic problems.

The world is not an analytic problem. It contains a great deal of them, but itself it is not something to resolve, but to enjoy and cultivate.
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Re: the second american civil war began today....

Postby surreptitious57 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 5:48 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:
Whatever comes at us through media of any kind gives an impression of a rattled world

True but nowadays everyone gets their opinion heard and so the traditional media no longer have their monopoly. For social media is always active giving the
impression there is more going on in the world than there actually is. And then when you add anger to the mix [ real and manufactured ] it seems like a truly
dysfunctional world that we are living in. However relatively speaking we are living in more enlightened times given how long civilisation has had to develop
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Re: the second american civil war began today....

Postby URUZ » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:08 pm

WendyDarling wrote:Left idealism is too extreme...period. It doesn't need to be violent, just stupid like it is. They are progressing a global communist agenda whether they are smart enough to realize it or not.


Yes of course. They are slaves. The Marxist Left has nothing to do with classical liberal values, and never did.
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Postby URUZ » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:13 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:Thats the case now, Trixie
The world is regulated by investment banks.
These banks operate on the judgments of "quants", people with IQs of 140 and very far beyond.

IQ doesn't give any kind of indication as to the quality of someones character, the degree of passion he is able to experience, whether he is empathic or sociopathic - it just gives the capacity to solve analytic problems.

The world is not an analytic problem. It contains a great deal of them, but itself it is not something to resolve, but to enjoy and cultivate.


Yes. Thus a balance is needed between people with very high IQ and people with very high "SQ" (sane quotient). Sanity here would include quality of character, integrity, honesty of one's assessments, degree of passion, empathic capacity and understanding, courageous, philosophical, creative, joyful, emotional non-reactivity, long-term vision, etc.
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Re: the second american civil war began today....

Postby WendyDarling » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:27 pm

Void_X_Zero wrote:
Fixed Cross wrote:Thats the case now, Trixie
The world is regulated by investment banks.
These banks operate on the judgments of "quants", people with IQs of 140 and very far beyond.

IQ doesn't give any kind of indication as to the quality of someones character, the degree of passion he is able to experience, whether he is empathic or sociopathic - it just gives the capacity to solve analytic problems.

The world is not an analytic problem. It contains a great deal of them, but itself it is not something to resolve, but to enjoy and cultivate.


Yes. Thus a balance is needed between people with very high IQ and people with very high "SQ" (sane quotient). Sanity here would include quality of character, integrity, honesty of one's assessments, degree of passion, empathic capacity and understanding, courageous, philosophical, creative, joyful, emotional non-reactivity, long-term vision, etc.

Let's not forget common sense and street smarts.
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