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Re: Fat positive

PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:17 pm
by Otto_West
MagsJ wrote:
surreptitious57 wrote:Apparently the reason why there is practically no obesity in China is because their national diet is rice
Compare that to America where one in three adults is overweight in the junk food capital of the world

There is also a fair amount of fat-shaming involved the minute any fat appears on a person's body.. my Chinese friends told me this/vented about their culture.

In South Korea women who are fat can't even get a job. Read that on an article recently, if people think Europeans are bigoted they obviously haven't been around Asians for any quality amount of time.

Re: Fat positive

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:03 am
by URUZ
MagsJ wrote:
surreptitious57 wrote:Apparently the reason why there is practically no obesity in China is because their national diet is rice
Compare that to America where one in three adults is overweight in the junk food capital of the world

There is also a fair amount of fat-shaming involved the minute any fat appears on a person's body.. my Chinese friends told me this/vented about their culture.


Fat shaming works.

Re: Fat positive

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:04 am
by URUZ
Otto_West wrote:
MagsJ wrote:
surreptitious57 wrote:Apparently the reason why there is practically no obesity in China is because their national diet is rice
Compare that to America where one in three adults is overweight in the junk food capital of the world

There is also a fair amount of fat-shaming involved the minute any fat appears on a person's body.. my Chinese friends told me this/vented about their culture.

In South Korea women who are fat can't even get a job.


Wish it was that way in America too. We need higher standards, and real values.

Re: Fat positive

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:22 am
by Otto_West
Void_X_Zero wrote:Wish it was that way in America too. We need higher standards, and real values.

Human perfection is a fool's folly.

Re: Fat positive

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:37 am
by URUZ
Otto_West wrote:
Void_X_Zero wrote:Wish it was that way in America too. We need higher standards, and real values.

Human perfection is a fool's folly.


Only if you're so lazy that you can't even improve at all.

Re: Fat positive

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:50 pm
by Ultimate Philosophy 1001
Void_X_Zero wrote:
Otto_West wrote:
Void_X_Zero wrote:Wish it was that way in America too. We need higher standards, and real values.

Human perfection is a fool's folly.


Only if you're so lazy that you can't even improve at all.


But you just said, fat women shouldn't be allowed to work.

Re: Fat positive

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:51 pm
by Ultimate Philosophy 1001
WendyDarling wrote:
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:
WendyDarling wrote:People believe their delusions. People who have delusions are mentally ill. A transexual will believe their delusion to the bitter end, but they will never be other than their XX or XY original chromosomes.

wendy, you are just transphobic of me because you are jealous that i have a higher iq than you, so you are using my own kind of reasoning against me, as a kind of vengeance mechanism. but i think you misjudge me because, i am all about a serium of genius which will improve a persons iq, i dont believe people ought to be trapped within the same iq they were born with.

Oh boy, here we go...wild accusations against Wendy, so much for our agreed upon truce. And it's serum, not serium.


you ended our truce by being transphobic.

Re: Fat positive

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:53 pm
by Ultimate Philosophy 1001
Otto_West wrote:
Void_X_Zero wrote:
Otto_West wrote:Ridiculing the symptoms but not the actual cause. That is how these conversations usually go.


What do you think is the case of fat positivity?


Once again, people being overworked and the modern lifestyle isn't helping the situation.


this is true, people are fat mainly due to the modern lifestyle of slavery and subjugation, religion is the modern potato chip to compensate that they are not allowed to have agency and are living under injustice and tyranny. an animal gets fat when it is locked in a cage and repressed from living out it's natural instincts.

Re: Fat positive

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:56 pm
by Ultimate Philosophy 1001
Otto_West wrote:There are those that will say that living in advanced societies require a great deal of sacrifice, time, and effort where the consensus is that this is all good for the progress of society or civilization as a whole but what many people don't understand is the tremendous costs involved in maintaining such a existence.

The psychological, physical, health, and social costs of maintaining such modern infrastructure where at this point in our socieities it seems there is nobody that wants to address these incovenient realities. At a certain point when costs outweigh benefits societies collapse and this can be thoroughly understand with a glance at human history.


you can be proven true mathematically and scientifically.

the bicycle is the most efficient device ever made, which means the car is less efficient.
thus a society builds more effort into building itself than is actually output, think of factory labor and how much effort it takes to build cars and ship gasoline, and creating a society of traffic jams and wage slaves, they are putting more energy into than they are getting out, it is inefficient.

but eventually we can hope for a future free of wage slavery, the laws of energy say energy is never lost, therefore one day we may end up getting more energy than we put into it.
Primarily what you want to do is give the most amount of work to non-sentience, so that non-sentient things are the ones eating up the karmic suffering, while the sentient ones simply reap the fruits, this is the way out of suffering.

Re: Fat positive

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:15 pm
by WendyDarling
I thought truces were meant to stop direct attacks on one another, but you say it is off since I do not relish the [Edit: trans #-o ] illness you associate yourself with, so be it.

Maybe I should write this every time you bring up the trans agenda...trans people are in denial of their genetic makeup, wanting to erroneously supplant what has been created for them naturally. I am tired of trans folks and their political tunnel vision to make the world "see" them as they are not.

Re: Fat positive

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:21 pm
by Ultimate Philosophy 1001
WendyDarling wrote:I thought truces were meant to stop direct attacks on one another, but you say it is off since I do not relish the illness you associate yourself with, so be it.

Maybe I should write this every time you bring up the trans agenda...trans people are in denial of their genetic makeup, wanting to erroneously supplant what has been created for them naturally. I am tired of trans folks and their political tunnel vision to make the world "see" them as they are not.


So are you saying that you are an illness, because you are female and there is something wrong with wanting to be female? You must be very unhappy with yourself.

Re: Fat positive

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:55 pm
by WendyDarling
[Edit: #-o ]

Re: Fat positive

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 3:09 pm
by MagsJ
Otto_West wrote:
MagsJ wrote:
surreptitious57 wrote:Apparently the reason why there is practically no obesity in China is because their national diet is rice
Compare that to America where one in three adults is overweight in the junk food capital of the world

There is also a fair amount of fat-shaming involved the minute any fat appears on a person's body.. my Chinese friends told me this/vented about their culture.

In South Korea women who are fat can't even get a job. Read that on an article recently, if people think Europeans are bigoted they obviously haven't been around Asians for any quality amount of time.

Most nations are bigoted about most things, and pretend it's all the other nations but they! Who's benefiting from that situation? certainly not the individual, but why does the individual allow themselves to be dragged into such self-depreciating situations? Mon dieu!

Void_X_Zero wrote:Fat shaming works.
..you wanna try prising those potato chips/doughnuts/desserts/any other fattening foods, out of an obese Westerner's fat sweaty palms? be my guest :P

What motivates me to stay within my fighting weight is self-pride.. I think the obese lose their self-pride, and tag onto group pride to fill that (no pun intended) void.

Re: Fat positive

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 3:15 pm
by MagsJ
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:
WendyDarling wrote:Maybe I should write this every time you bring up the trans agenda...trans people are in denial of their genetic makeup, wanting to erroneously supplant what has been created for them naturally. I am tired of trans folks and their political tunnel vision to make the world "see" them as they are not.
So are you saying that you are an illness, because you are female and there is something wrong with wanting to be female? You must be very unhappy with yourself.

UP.. females are not responsible for your lack of complete femaleness, so cease going off-topic with that topic. We are not responsible for your feelings on the matter, you are!

Re: Fat positive

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:23 pm
by URUZ
Void_X_Zero wrote:Wish it was that way in America too. We need higher standards, and real values.

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:
Void_X_Zero wrote:
Otto_West wrote:Human perfection is a fool's folly.


Only if you're so lazy that you can't even improve at all.


But you just said, fat women shouldn't be allowed to work.


And?

Re: Fat positive

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:24 pm
by URUZ
WendyDarling wrote:People believe their delusions. People who have delusions are mentally ill. A transexual will believe their delusion to the bitter end, but they will never be other than their XX or XY original chromosomes.

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:
WendyDarling wrote:
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:wendy, you are just transphobic of me because you are jealous that i have a higher iq than you, so you are using my own kind of reasoning against me, as a kind of vengeance mechanism. but i think you misjudge me because, i am all about a serium of genius which will improve a persons iq, i dont believe people ought to be trapped within the same iq they were born with.

Oh boy, here we go...wild accusations against Wendy, so much for our agreed upon truce. And it's serum, not serium.


you ended our truce by being transphobic.


Ahaha. Truth sucks, eh? Just label people who say true things you don't like as "___phobics" and call it a day.

Apparently to you, "truce" only means "keep telling me how beautiful I am!!!!!!"

Re: Fat positive

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:28 pm
by URUZ
Otto_West wrote:Ridiculing the symptoms but not the actual cause. That is how these conversations usually go.

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:
Otto_West wrote:
Void_X_Zero wrote:
What do you think is the case of fat positivity?


Once again, people being overworked and the modern lifestyle isn't helping the situation.


this is true, people are fat mainly due to the modern lifestyle of slavery and subjugation,


Kek.

religion is the modern potato chip to compensate that they are not allowed to have agency and are living under injustice and tyranny.


Topkek.

an animal gets fat when it is locked in a cage and repressed from living out it's natural instincts.


The cage is in your mind, and built by your own labor.

Fat people imprison themselves because they are too [pick one: lazy, stupid, vain, narcissistic, immature] to value themselves, to actually give a flying fuck about their own body and existence. They just do not give one fuck about themselves, not really. That is all "fat" means.

"You are not fat, you are dying." Yep, and by their own hand and intent shall they perish. We could also say with Nietzsche that it is less an actual negative intent on their part and more like a pathological lack of any positive intent on their part. But you know, six of one and half-dozen of another.

Re: Fat positive

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:30 pm
by URUZ
surreptitious57 wrote:Apparently the reason why there is practically no obesity in China is because their national diet is rice
Compare that to America where one in three adults is overweight in the junk food capital of the world

MagsJ wrote:
Otto_West wrote:
MagsJ wrote:There is also a fair amount of fat-shaming involved the minute any fat appears on a person's body.. my Chinese friends told me this/vented about their culture.

In South Korea women who are fat can't even get a job. Read that on an article recently, if people think Europeans are bigoted they obviously haven't been around Asians for any quality amount of time.

Most nations are bigoted about most things, and pretend it's all the other nations but they! Who's benefiting from that situation? certainly not the individual, but why does the individual allow themselves to be dragged into such self-depreciating situations? Mon dieu!

Void_X_Zero wrote:Fat shaming works.
..you wanna try prising those potato chips/doughnuts/desserts/any other fattening foods, out of an obese Westerner's fat sweaty palms? be my guest :P




What motivates me to stay within my fighting weight is self-pride.. I think the obese lose their self-pride, and tag onto group pride to fill that (no pun intended) void.


Yep.

Re: Fat positive

PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:12 am
by Otto_West
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:
But you just said, fat women shouldn't be allowed to work.

Exactly.

Re: Fat positive

PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:15 am
by Otto_West
Void_X_Zero wrote:And?

If you're unemployed there is no room for improvement.

At any rate not everybody can work four to five hours a day and spend the rest of their time at the gym.(Not everybody can afford a gym membership or buy their own home gym equipment.) Not everybody can become anorexic, world just doesn't work that way.

This obsession with human perfection even beyond weight or fitness in society is a fool's errand.

Re: Fat positive

PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:20 am
by Otto_West
Void_X_Zero wrote:
The cage is in your mind, and built by your own labor.

Fat people imprison themselves because they are too [pick one: lazy, stupid, vain, narcissistic, immature] to value themselves, to actually give a flying fuck about their own body and existence. They just do not give one fuck about themselves, not really. That is all "fat" means.

"You are not fat, you are dying." Yep, and by their own hand and intent shall they perish. We could also say with Nietzsche that it is less an actual negative intent on their part and more like a pathological lack of any positive intent on their part. But you know, six of one and half-dozen of another.


You're just addressing and mocking symptoms, what's your actual solution to the problem? You don't have any and public health officials don't have any either because they refuse to address the actual problem creator namely that of the modern societal environment.

Re: Fat positive

PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:34 am
by URUZ
Otto_West wrote:
Void_X_Zero wrote:And?

If you're unemployed there is no room for improvement.


Not true at all, in fact it would be more the exact opposite.

At any rate not everybody can work four to five hours a day and spend the rest of their time at the gym.(Not everybody can afford a gym membership or buy their own home gym equipment.) Not everybody can become anorexic, world just doesn't work that way.

This obsession with human perfection even beyond weight or fitness in society is a fool's errand.


Says the fat lazy person who can't stop eating Doritos long enough to go walk outside for 30 minutes a day.

Re: Fat positive

PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:37 am
by Otto_West
Void_X_Zero wrote:
Otto_West wrote:
Void_X_Zero wrote:And?

If you're unemployed there is no room for improvement.


Not true at all, in fact it would be more the exact opposite.

At any rate not everybody can work four to five hours a day and spend the rest of their time at the gym.(Not everybody can afford a gym membership or buy their own home gym equipment.) Not everybody can become anorexic, world just doesn't work that way.

This obsession with human perfection even beyond weight or fitness in society is a fool's errand.


Says the fat lazy person who can't stop eating Doritos long enough to go walk outside for 30 minutes a day.


Really? Tell me all the opportunities an unemployed person has on the verge of being thrown out onto the streets. No doubt you must have some first hand knowledge of this.

I work constantly and a very physically strenuous or demanding job chump. You wouldn't last five days in my life.

Re: Fat positive

PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:06 am
by URUZ
I would put my own physical, strenuous work up to yours any day.

Re: Fat positive

PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:26 am
by Otto_West
Void_X_Zero wrote:I would put my own physical, strenuous work up to yours any day.


:lol: Sure kid.