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Re: Government

Postby Otto_West » Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:18 am

Urwrongx1000 wrote:And who's fault is it that individual autonomy and power is lost, except the individual?

As long as you, or anybody else, sleeps in a soft or feathered bed, you're being a hypocrite.

All of the modern contrivances, comforts, designer drugs, decadence, hedonism, and most of which you enjoy yourself, are directly spawned from the "system" you despise so much.


Shouldn't you be thanking your government?


And once again, under a centralized government the individual controls nothing, politicized freedom is an illusion, or worse a commodity to be bought and sold in exchange of service. Spare me the whole responsibility personal inversion stemming from a fictional misguided sense of morality circulating around a belief in a state controlled social entitlement system.

Not really, you're not even allowed to live outside of society without paying taxes, or having territorial ownership. Don't believe me go try it sometime, see how far you'll get. What other choices are there?

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Re: Government

Postby Arminius » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:30 pm

Urwrongx1000 wrote:

The question was not only what the Romans had done for them.

The question was also and especially why the Romans were not at home.



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Re: Government

Postby Otto_West » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:10 am

Better to be a barbarian savage free than civilized trapped in an elaborate cage.
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Re: Government

Postby Arminius » Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:49 pm

Although or because (!) he had become a Roman citizen and officer, the German Arminius (18 B.C. - 21 A.D.) decided to fight against the Romans and to become a free German again.

In the year 12 B.C. Arminius' homeland became a Roman province.

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In the year 9 A.D. it became part of the free Germany (Germania Magna) again.

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Better death than dishonor. Better being dead than enslaved.

This motto is also true when it comes to thinking and can be seen as the reason or motif for my username here.
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Re: Government

Postby Otto_West » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:05 pm

Arminius, by tradition of the German side of my family it is said it can be traced all the way back to the ancient Alemanni.
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Re: Government

Postby Arminius » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:56 pm

Otto_West wrote:Arminius, by tradition of the German side of my family it is said it can be traced all the way back to the ancient Alemanni.

Really?

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Re: Government

Postby Otto_West » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:11 pm

Yes, really.
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Re: Government

Postby Arminius » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:30 pm

Do you know the names of those ancient ancestors?
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Re: Government

Postby MagsJ » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:50 pm

Otto_West wrote:Arminius, by tradition of the German side of my family it is said it can be traced all the way back to the ancient Alemanni.

..who or what were the ancient Alemanni?
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Re: Government

Postby Arminius » Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:00 pm

Are you joking?
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Re: Government

Postby Arminius » Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:14 pm

Some historical maps for you:

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Re: Government

Postby Arminius » Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:51 pm

Can you start with that?
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Re: Government

Postby Arminius » Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:53 pm

Or are you just joking?
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Re: Government

Postby MagsJ » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:26 pm

I found a historical timeline of the Alemanni, but the maps look pretty :)

I will continue reading up on them, later.. and no, I wasn't joking ;)
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Re: Government

Postby Arminius » Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:01 am

Fine. :)
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Re: Government

Postby Otto_West » Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:31 am

Arminius wrote:Fine. :)


Strasbourg area and I'll say no more as I am not going to go into a great deal over it derailing the thread.
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Re: Government

Postby Otto_West » Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:33 am

MagsJ wrote:
Otto_West wrote:Arminius, by tradition of the German side of my family it is said it can be traced all the way back to the ancient Alemanni.

..who or what were the ancient Alemanni?

They were the last pagan Germans that were slaughtered by the Franks for their unwillingness to convert to Christianity whose descendants are many in southern Germany especially of Bavarian ancestory.
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Re: Government

Postby Otto_West » Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:34 am

Arminius wrote:Do you know the names of those ancient ancestors?


I only know that my family name comes from the area and I'm unwilling to post that information online.
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Re: Government

Postby Otto_West » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:09 am

I'll leave you with this Arminius only, my last name in German means hill people and the family on my German side came to the United States after the Hecker uprising in the late 1800's.

The dominant portion of my family is German with some French admixture and still yet on my father's side there is small portion that is Austro-Hungarian.
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Re: Government

Postby Arminius » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:22 am

Otto_West wrote:
MagsJ wrote:
Otto_West wrote:Arminius, by tradition of the German side of my family it is said it can be traced all the way back to the ancient Alemanni.

..who or what were the ancient Alemanni?

They were the last pagan Germans that were slaughtered by the Franks for their unwillingness to convert to Christianity whose descendants are many in southern Germany especially of Bavarian ancestory.

The Franks were and are Germans too. The Franks are (1) the ancestors of the current Franken who live especially in the North of Bayern (Bavaria), in the East of Württemberg (Wuerttemberg), in the Southwest of Hessen (Hesse, Hessia), and - as Nether-Franks - in Rheinland-Pfalz (Rhineland-Palatinate), in the West (Nordrhein) of Nordrhein-Westfalen (North Rhine-Westphalia), in parts of the so-called "Netherlands" and Belgium; and they also are (2) the ancestors of the most French.

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Some Franks - as well as e.g. Saxons, Angles, Jutes et al. - stayed where they were at that said time, others moved on and conquered foreign territories where they later founded kingdoms.

So now we can talk about "kingdom as a form of government".
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Re: Government

Postby Otto_West » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:25 am

Yes, I know this Arminius. I just view it as a tragedy how the last of the Alemanni succumbed to Frank Christians. I'm of the mind Europe would of been better off staying pagan as I detest Christianity. Thousands of Alemanni women, men, and children were slaughtered for not accepting the Christ god.
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Re: Government

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:04 pm

Otto_West wrote:
Urwrongx1000 wrote:And who's fault is it that individual autonomy and power is lost, except the individual?

As long as you, or anybody else, sleeps in a soft or feathered bed, you're being a hypocrite.

All of the modern contrivances, comforts, designer drugs, decadence, hedonism, and most of which you enjoy yourself, are directly spawned from the "system" you despise so much.


Shouldn't you be thanking your government?


And once again, under a centralized government the individual controls nothing, politicized freedom is an illusion, or worse a commodity to be bought and sold in exchange of service. Spare me the whole responsibility personal inversion stemming from a fictional misguided sense of morality circulating around a belief in a state controlled social entitlement system.

Not really, you're not even allowed to live outside of society without paying taxes, or having territorial ownership. Don't believe me go try it sometime, see how far you'll get. What other choices are there?

Yes, thank you for making me into a pawn or gear of an abstraction where I have no will and volition of my own other than what has already been previously scripted in being set up for me way before I was even born. I love big brother, fucking awesome.


if i drive 100 miles and go to a random field, building brick by brick, adding cement, building a philosophy building, i will be approached by feds, asked what i am doing, made to feel humiliated like i am mentally ill or something, told i must fill out a bunch of paperwork, possibly also pay property fees, this is cuckery at its finest.
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Re: Government

Postby Arminius » Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:06 pm

Otto_West wrote:Yes, I know this Arminius. I just view it as a tragedy how the last of the Alemanni succumbed to Frank Christians. I'm of the mind Europe would of been better off staying pagan as I detest Christianity. Thousands of Alemanni women, men, and children were slaughtered for not accepting the Christ god.

This "Christianization“ happened to all those who were later called "Europeans“, then to almost all Black-Africans, to all native Americans, to all Australians, to many Asians; thus: to almost all humans of the world.

The world became "European":

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Then the "White World Revolution“, which had already existed since the end of the 18th century, and the "Colored World Revolution“ (Oswald Spengler’s concept [„Farbige Welt-Revolution“] reacted.

Now the interim result is as follows:

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The worst is yet to come. There will be hell to pay.
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Re: Government

Postby Is_Yde_opN » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:42 pm

Arminius wrote:The worst is yet to come. There will be hell to pay.


I'm not sure I understand you the right way.

Like for example, would you think that colonisation and imperialism through Europeans happened because Europeans were motivated by things like the Mongolian invasion or the Muslim invasions into Europe prior to it?
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Re: Government

Postby Otto_West » Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:25 am

Arminius, Christianity is a semitic stain of existence where there isn't anything that constitutes itself as being European.

As for anti white sentiments it is the establishment's goal of biological control mainly by zionists. (Population reduction)The zionists view whites as a form of pestilence and like pests you see in the wild you introduce foreign invaders (It's natural foreign predators or competitors) to curb down its population or get rid of it all together. You even introduce mating or reproduction disrupting techniques making it unable to reproduce itself.

In the past only European nationalists has posed a threat to the zionist world order and because of that it has been deemed necessary by the establishment to annihilate that movement by any means.
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