## Very Fake News

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Gubment's iut to git me, and aliens shovd a probe up ma bum!! Help!

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Urwrongx1000 wrote:
Otto_West wrote:Everyone on this earth is enslaved by central banks including you unless you live in war torn Syria, Iran, or North Korea. What makes you think you're so special by comparison?

I'm pretty smart.

Otto_West wrote:As for real life skills I just got back from third shift doing this all night, what kind of skills or trade do you have?

Also, I've lived two years in a remote wilderness hunting, fishing, and foraging for an existence without a great deal of modern technological conveniences, can you say the same? My guess is probably not. Have you ever chopped your own wood for fire concerning the winter season where average temperatures come down to -40 degrees in snow blizzards? Have you ever gutted a deer carcass and skinned them? Have you grown up in violent neighborhoods where shootings happen everyday concerning drug trafficking looking over your shoulder every night wondering if you're going to be violently mugged at any given time? No, probably not either. You don't know survival, desperation, or hard times. So don't sit there thinking you're anywhere near my level of reality. I eat fools like that for breakfast and shit them out in the afternoon after I eat my lunch.

So you did try to leave civilization, but did not stay away. The soft bed is hard to stay away from, isn't it? Isn't that the nature of human "slavery"? People are allured into the "standard of living" of civilization. I don't see anything wrong with that, as you seem to. I understand that corruption is bad-wrong-evil, but then so too is the soft bed.

I too want independence and to become free from the system, however, even running off into the wild is a dead end. In 100-200 years there will be no more "wild". And the system will fly a drone overhead and see anybody living off the grid. There is no escape, in the end.

The only way out, is upward.

No, I returned from my wilderness experience because one is a lonely number and human beings aren't meant to live in total seclusion or isolation. If I could stomach isolation I would still be out there to this day. (Plus all the womenfolk are not in the wilderness either.) If I could of found a wilderness full of overly sexualized wild nymphs as a younger man I would of never left. Surviving in the bush isn't all that difficult if you know what you're doing and are well supplied.

People are allured with civilization by deception, entrapment, and coercion. There's nothing special about this civilization and its inevitable collapse or damnation can't come fast enough.

It will happen and there is nothing nobody or anything can do about it.

The wild is the last bastion of genuine freedom for human beings as there is no freedom in civilization as it is largely illusory or controlled. In the future I imagine thousands of human beings running away from a technological transhumanist society of complete tyranny back into the warm embrace of nature. The more people run away from nature the more they run away from themselves. Nature is non-ideological. This artificial matrix will never be a suitable replacement or surrogate for human beings. Upward? Upward to where?
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That's the real core of it, isn't it, sex? Enslaved to the basest desire.

You do know that, in the beginnings of Christian theology, the Christian monk devoted himself to solitude, many who would never see a woman again, as a means to achieve "freedom" in life? So your pursuit for independence, freedom, etc. has a long history. People pursue it in different ways.

And by 'upward' I mean a new planet to land on, or floating around in space away from humanity.

It's also a tradition in Central Asia that young men would kidnap a girl and try to ride out into the wilderness with her. But you're right about that point. Women cannot stand wilderness and "returning to nature". Modern women are the least "natural" types. Many women claim to "love nature" and "to want to be at one with nature" but not really. Women are most addicted to civilization, slavery, and the comforts provided.

It's basically hedonism you're talking about.
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Urwrongx1000 wrote:That's the real core of it, isn't it, sex? Enslaved to the basest desire.

You do know that, in the beginnings of Christian theology, the Christian monk devoted himself to solitude, many who would never see a woman again, as a means to achieve "freedom" in life? So your pursuit for independence, freedom, etc. has a long history. People pursue it in different ways.

And by 'upward' I mean a new planet to land on, or floating around in space away from humanity.

It's also a tradition in Central Asia that young men would kidnap a girl and try to ride out into the wilderness with her. But you're right about that point. Women cannot stand wilderness and "returning to nature". Modern women are the least "natural" types. Many women claim to "love nature" and "to want to be at one with nature" but not really. Women are most addicted to civilization, slavery, and the comforts provided.

It's basically hedonism you're talking about.

Enslaved? No, I look at it fulfilling natural function but at any rate there is no pussy in the wilderness to be found anywhere. Yes, I'm familiar with the Asian literary traditions of wilderness abductions and so are back woods serial rapists of today. The feminine form is one of domestication whereas the male form is of the wild. The more man constructs civilization the more he turns away from his own wild nature. When you say we should turn inward or upward within civilization the first thought that comes to my mind is femininity.

Space the final frontier, eh? Good luck with a planet that revolves around a finite amount of natural resources that are rapidly depleting globally. Also, how's that whole intergalactic space travel thing working out where human beings have the ability to travel beyond Mars or Jupiter going? Oh wait, it hasn't and more than likely never will.
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Void_X_Zero wrote:Gubment's iut to git me, and aliens shovd a probe up ma bum!! Help!

Sounds like a personal problem.
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Governments and corporations already own most of the world's unpopulated land mass. And in the future it will be 100% bought up and owned. You're not looking at the big picture. Any "freedom" to be won, is by escaping the system completely or living within and slipping through the cracks of society. You did not escape, yourself, so don't be a hypocrite.

You came back for women. That's called dependency.
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Otto_West wrote:
Void_X_Zero wrote:Gubment's iut to git me, and aliens shovd a probe up ma bum!! Help!

Sounds like a personal problem.

They're coming for you next! The Jews and the NWO!! Look out!

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Urwrongx1000 wrote:Governments and corporations already own most of the world's unpopulated land mass. And in the future it will be 100% bought up and owned. You're not looking at the big picture. Any "freedom" to be won, is by escaping the system completely or living within and slipping through the cracks of society. You did not escape, yourself, so don't be a hypocrite.

You came back for women. That's called dependency.

And these same governments and corporations just how long do you think they can manage societies or the global population with depleting natural resources worldwide? It's all doomed to fail, it always was from the first civilizations springing up in their inception or creation. Even the total control they enjoy now will eventually crumble and collapse. It will all come and pass overtime.

Escape myself, no, over the years I've come to know myself quite well and the years I spent in the wilderness was a part of that.
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urwrong wrote:Are you a millionaire? Do you own over a hundred million in assets, companies, employees, stocks? No, then why the fuck are you even talking about this stuff?
lol

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Void_X_Zero wrote:
Otto_West wrote:
Void_X_Zero wrote:Gubment's iut to git me, and aliens shovd a probe up ma bum!! Help!

Sounds like a personal problem.

They're coming for you next! The Jews and the NWO!! Look out!

I think that I found a picture of Void here.

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Pandora wrote:
urwrong wrote:Are you a millionaire? Do you own over a hundred million in assets, companies, employees, stocks? No, then why the fuck are you even talking about this stuff?
lol

I'll answer that, because economics is an interesting way of studying the politics, behaviors, motivations, goals, and psychology of your adversaries. Unfortunately most people are inept at it.
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Most of the world population cannot mentally imagine $1,000,000.00 or anything above that level. It's a complete void, unknown in the mind. So what happens is they usually invent boogey-men, monsters, demons, and other types of imagined illusory forces, illuminati, NWO, as attempts to rationalize the highest degrees of wealth. Maybe it's equivalent to rocket science. You'd have to be at the level of a rocket scientist to understand macro-economics. But, things can be simplified by analogies. If you can imagine$100 then you can make sense of why and how the markets work.

Bottom-line: a billionaire is not "free" at all, to do whatever he likes. He is beholden to thousands of people, and especially his stock-holders and investors. Can you imagine being responsible for thousands of families, ultimately being the one who feeds them all? so the point is, the more money you have and gain, the more indebted into the system you become, and the less free.
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Urwrongx1000 wrote:Most of the world population cannot mentally imagine $1,000,000.00 or anything above that level. It's a complete void, unknown in the mind. So what happens is they usually invent boogey-men, monsters, demons, and other types of imagined illusory forces, illuminati, NWO, as attempts to rationalize the highest degrees of wealth. Maybe it's equivalent to rocket science. You'd have to be at the level of a rocket scientist to understand macro-economics. But, things can be simplified by analogies. If you can imagine$100 then you can make sense of why and how the markets work.

Bottom-line: a billionaire is not "free" at all, to do whatever he likes. He is beholden to thousands of people, and especially his stock-holders and investors. Can you imagine being responsible for thousands of families, ultimately being the one who feeds them all? so the point is, the more money you have and gain, the more indebted into the system you become, and the less free.

You obviously don't understand the historical reality and evolution of conspiracy overtime very well.
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Urwrongx1000 wrote:Most of the world population cannot mentally imagine $1,000,000.00 or anything above that level. It's a complete void, unknown in the mind. So what happens is they usually invent boogey-men, monsters, demons, and other types of imagined illusory forces, illuminati, NWO, as attempts to rationalize the highest degrees of wealth. Maybe it's equivalent to rocket science. You'd have to be at the level of a rocket scientist to understand macro-economics. But, things can be simplified by analogies. If you can imagine$100 then you can make sense of why and how the markets work.

Bottom-line: a billionaire is not "free" at all, to do whatever he likes. He is beholden to thousands of people, and especially his stock-holders and investors. Can you imagine being responsible for thousands of families, ultimately being the one who feeds them all? so the point is, the more money you have and gain, the more indebted into the system you become, and the less free.

You are thinking like a pauper...STOP!

The rich have underlings who manage their affairs so the rich have little to do other than sign a few papers and ask a few questions. What you describe is what does not exist anymore where a large business owner used to actually give a fuck about his company and employees beyond his profit, them days are gone...sorry.
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James wrote:
The entire history of the Hebrews and offspring is about the man-nipulation of others, stemming literally from the first, "Ahdam". They foresee their entire purpose as that of governing mankind throughout the world as the only humans of "Man". The Star of David is entirely about a "holy" means to ensure perfect control of mankind. They do not work the land, as their purpose is to work the life on the land, hence their focus on media, medicine, money, laws, spying, scapegoating, false-flags,... everything have anything to do with manipulating people, creating the "plagues", the "famines", and "reigning fire and ice from above." Those who can destroy you can more easily manipulate you than merely those who help you - serving the Serpent. Entropy is much easier than harmony. Destroying is easier than constructing. Judging and condemning is easier than forgiving and teaching (Judaism vs Christianity).

Wow! You too James?

These posts have really been an ugly read.

Lest we forget:

....and so it goes!
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What we take ourselves to be doing when we think about what is the case or how we should act is something that cannot be reconciled with a reductive naturalism, for reasons distinct from those that entail the irreducibility of consciousness. It is not merely the subjectivity of thought but its capacity to transcend subjectivity and to discover what is objectively the case that presents a problem....Thought and reasoning are correct or incorrect in virtue of something independent of the thinker's beliefs, and even independent of the community of thinkers to which he belongs.

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Arc,
Nobody has advocated for another extermination, only revoking their citizenships and shipping them first class to their motherland, Israel where they can relax and spend their fortunes.
I AM OFFICIALLY IN HELL!

I live my philosophy, it's personal to me and people who engage where I live establish an unspoken dynamic, a relationship of sorts, with me and my philosophy.

Cutting folks for sport is a reality for the poor in spirit. I myself only cut the poor in spirit on Tues., Thurs., and every other Sat.

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Joker, why have you assumed the name Otto West?

Why do you feel the need for anonymity here?
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Joker, why have you assumed the name Otto West?

Why do you feel the need for anonymity here?

Because the world is becoming more of a unsafe and insecure one with the looming threat of the state everywhere
Your entire world of fantasy and make believe is doomed, have a nice day.

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Otto wrote:
(Real Mother was Catholic)
So you were not Jewish.

Wrong
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He is beholden to thousands of people, and especially his stock-holders and investors

According to him, they owe him. Your naivety betrays you.

https://youtu.be/VVxYOQS6ggk

Greed is good....applause! LOL and that is how he wins them over.
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Otto wrote:
Because the world is becoming more of a unsafe and insecure one with the looming threat of the state everywhere

There will be no escape ultimately.

To escape the corruption, where you lived, (the hills or outback) is probably the best place to be, minus some of the hardships you had to endure.
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Always remember that no matter how bad it all gets one is simply passing through
And once you are dead you will have absolutely nothing to worry about ever again
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The most important space is the one between your ears. Get that right and you are in the most ideal position
You have no control over how reality imposes upon you but you do over how you choose to rationalise it. And
so being non ideological and practical is the best way. Regardless of whether or not the world is going to end
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We have no control, nothing matters and you die in the end, so who cares?

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Death is just another state. Namely the state of non consciousness. As both an atheist and nihilist I have no problem with
it especially as it is not something I am ever going to experience. And it sure beats living forever which is infinitely worse
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A Shieldmaiden wrote:Otto wrote:
(Real Mother was Catholic)
So you were not Jewish.

Wrong
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He is beholden to thousands of people, and especially his stock-holders and investors

According to him, they owe him. Your naivety betrays you.

https://youtu.be/VVxYOQS6ggk

Greed is good....applause! LOL and that is how he wins them over.

No, never was. Just another rumor on the internet.
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