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What's Next?

Postby James S Saint » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:32 am

You can't blame Trump for this one:

From Brasscheck:
===================
BrasscheckTV Report
===================

A few years ago, Google which runs
ads on our site - it's how we pay the
bills - deactivated our all our ads
(and thus our income) based on a
technical problem on a SINGLE page.

No warning. No "Hey, there's a problem
that needs you attention."

At that point, we'd been doing business
with them for five years and had produced
thousands of videos and video pages.

We were compelled to go through all
of our videos - thousands of them -
to make sure there were no other
problems in order to restore our
account. An enormous task that took
several weeks.

We hired a bunch of people to help
us. Some we knew well, some we
didn't.

We recently discovered that one of the
people we hired who presented himself
as a "big Brasscheck fan" was actually
a saboteur.

He deactivated HUNDREDS of our
pages including many of our original
productions.

The good news is that we didn't
give him the ability to delete pages
- just to take them offline.

Further good news, we can ID his
handiwork. (When you have over 8,000
pages, it's easy for even a few hundred
to get lost in the shuffle.)

Even more good news is that we're
in the process of restoring these
page to online so they can be seen
again and have put 200 back online.

Interesting...

Most of the pages he took offline
were detailed critiques of abuses
and corruption in Homeland Security
and law enforcement especially
as it applies to their treatment
of demonstrators and travelers.

Who is guy actually was we don't know.

The email and telephone number he
gave us no longer work.

We do know he claimed to live in Washington DC
and the phone number he gave us did have
DC area code. (In retrospect that should
have been a clue!)

This act of sabotage not only deprived lots
of people of important information over
the years - our pages are linked to from thousands
of articles all over the Internet - it also must
have cost us thousands of dollars in lost revenue.

But in this case, all's well that ends well.
​​​​​​​
We've caught the problem, we're fixing it, and
hundreds of important Brasscheck videos are getting
back online.

...Like this one we produced in 2011:

There are a great many of these kinds of things happening throughout the USA. You don't hear about most of them because to control the Media, is to control the mind - "What isn't seen, didn't happen".

How far do you think this hidden subjugation will go?
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: What's Next?

Postby Otto_West » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:14 am

What's next?! I'll take global world war, eventual global natural resource scarcity/ depletion, pandemic civil war, break down of society in total, and followed with constant economic crisis Alex Trebek.

Next up I would like to buy a vowel in the hopes of attaining double jeopardy.....
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Re: What's Next?

Postby James S Saint » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:21 am

Otto_West wrote:... constant economic crisis

You think that is as far as it will go?
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: What's Next?

Postby Otto_West » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:26 am

James S Saint wrote:
Otto_West wrote:... constant economic crisis

You think that is as far as it will go?


It will be like a constant cascading effect under tyrannical control of totalitarianism with a big collapse at the end of course. They'll try to manage and control all of it but chaotic complex systems become futile for anybody to control or dominate for very long.....
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Re: What's Next?

Postby James S Saint » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:35 am

Otto_West wrote:... chaotic complex systems become futile for anybody to control or dominate for very long.....

..at which point they usually exterminate whatever can't be controlled. When the gardener or farmer sees that the weeds are too far out of control, he simply plows under the entire field and starts over.
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: What's Next?

Postby Otto_West » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:00 am

James S Saint wrote:
Otto_West wrote:... chaotic complex systems become futile for anybody to control or dominate for very long.....

..at which point they usually exterminate whatever can't be controlled. When the gardener or farmer sees that the weeds are too far out of control, he simply plows under the entire field and starts over.


Yes, systems are in place for massive genocidal culling when all of this takes place. Add in artificial intelligence and automation assuming civilization survives that long.

Nonetheless even with the whole slash and burn policy of blood being spilled across the planet in the name of ideological progressivism or superiority eugenics in the name of survival of the fittest if you cannot find an infinite amount of energy via natural resources going into the future(presumably to escape this rock called earth with technological civilization intact) all of these things guided by the global elite will be for not amounting to little more than thousands of years of creative-destructive human masturbation. The net gain of human history as a whole in all of its totality will amount to zero. Of course nobody wants to believe or accept any of that where the elites along with all their sycophant followers have decided to go with 'feelz good' vicious faith. The only alternative is total realistic acceptance and that is a rare thing that only a handful of individuals at any given point in history can accept, which just leaves us with over-zealous vicious faith along with all the human violence that comprises it. This is the absurd root of all human history revealed (naked without pretenses) and not a pleasant one to say in the slightest.
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Re: What's Next?

Postby James S Saint » Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:47 am

They have a source for endless energy.
They have a source for immeasurable intelligence.
What they don't have is a source for infinite wisdom.

The game is to guess what unwise, supremely clever and powerful people will do. 8)


What did they do on those other planets, I wonder.
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: What's Next?

Postby Otto_West » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:18 am

James S Saint wrote:They have a source for endless energy.
They have a source for immeasurable intelligence.
What they don't have is a source for infinite wisdom.

The game is to guess what unwise, supremely clever and powerful people will do. 8)


What did they do on those other planets, I wonder.

There is no such thing as endless energy, nonexistent.
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Re: What's Next?

Postby pilgrim-seeker_tom » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:19 am

For a little over four centuries now, starting in the 1600s, the dominant narrative in the West has been “Man’s Conquest of Nature.” From there it spread around the globe as “Man” (in a rather specific sense of various gentlemen and their servants) vanquished all who stood before him. And even now, as the West enters its senescence, torn apart by internal conflicts, failing demographically, overrun by migrants from a wide assortment of failed states and courting environmental disaster at a planetary scale, it remains the steadfast belief of victims of public education around the world that “the purpose of nature is to serve man.” Dmitry Orlov


What happens next?

But being very adaptable and resourceful, they will find ways to survive.

They will hunt, fish, gather wild fruits and vegetables, and eat grubs and bugs if they have to. They will idle away entire days and months telling stories, singing songs, raising children and generally having a good time. Chances are, they won’t shave, shower or use deodorant, lack any conception of the inviolability of private property or personal space, and tend to be uninhibited and direct in their choice of sexual partners, so you probably wouldn’t want them around and would perhaps think of them as “dirty hippies” or even as “brutes.” But that’s not what’s important. Nor is it important whether they’d want to have you around: we humans have little use for other human tribes, except for an occasional bit of raiding and bride-snatching. What's important is this: are you ready to be conquered by nature? Because maybe you should be working on that. Dmitry Orlov
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Re: What's Next?

Postby Otto_West » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:21 am

pilgrim-seeker_tom wrote:
For a little over four centuries now, starting in the 1600s, the dominant narrative in the West has been “Man’s Conquest of Nature.” From there it spread around the globe as “Man” (in a rather specific sense of various gentlemen and their servants) vanquished all who stood before him. And even now, as the West enters its senescence, torn apart by internal conflicts, failing demographically, overrun by migrants from a wide assortment of failed states and courting environmental disaster at a planetary scale, it remains the steadfast belief of victims of public education around the world that “the purpose of nature is to serve man.” Dmitry Orlov


What happens next?

But being very adaptable and resourceful, they will find ways to survive.

They will hunt, fish, gather wild fruits and vegetables, and eat grubs and bugs if they have to. They will idle away entire days and months telling stories, singing songs, raising children and generally having a good time. Chances are, they won’t shave, shower or use deodorant, lack any conception of the inviolability of private property or personal space, and tend to be uninhibited and direct in their choice of sexual partners, so you probably wouldn’t want them around and would perhaps think of them as “dirty hippies” or even as “brutes.” But that’s not what’s important. Nor is it important whether they’d want to have you around: we humans have little use for other human tribes, except for an occasional bit of raiding and bride-snatching. What's important is this: are you ready to be conquered by nature? Because maybe you should be working on that. Dmitry Orlov



When humanity self annihilates itself that is humanity being conquered by nature, human nature.
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Re: What's Next?

Postby pilgrim-seeker_tom » Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:32 pm

What did they do on those other planets, I wonder.


They destroyed them and came here. :)


When humanity self annihilates itself that is humanity being conquered by nature, human nature.


Are you referring to that component of human nature ... time tested and proven true ... expressed as ..."If I can't have it ... if I can't keep it ... nobody else can have it either."

Carthage again??
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Re: What's Next?

Postby Otto_West » Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:24 pm

pilgrim-seeker_tom wrote:
What did they do on those other planets, I wonder.


They destroyed them and came here. :)


When humanity self annihilates itself that is humanity being conquered by nature, human nature.


Are you referring to that component of human nature ... time tested and proven true ... expressed as ..."If I can't have it ... if I can't keep it ... nobody else can have it either."

Carthage again??


Well, that's one way of putting it.
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Re: What's Next?

Postby James S Saint » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:44 pm

Otto_West wrote:There is no such thing as endless energy, nonexistent.

There is nothing but .. endless energy - existence itself.
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: What's Next?

Postby James S Saint » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:49 pm

pilgrim-seeker_tom wrote:
For a little over four centuries now, starting in the 1600s, the dominant narrative in the West has been “Man’s Conquest of Nature.” From there it spread around the globe as “Man” (in a rather specific sense of various gentlemen and their servants) vanquished all who stood before him. And even now, as the West enters its senescence, torn apart by internal conflicts, failing demographically, overrun by migrants from a wide assortment of failed states and courting environmental disaster at a planetary scale, it remains the steadfast belief of victims of public education around the world that “the purpose of nature is to serve man.” Dmitry Orlov


What happens next?

But being very adaptable and resourceful, they will find ways to survive.

They will hunt, fish, gather wild fruits and vegetables, and eat grubs and bugs if they have to. They will idle away entire days and months telling stories, singing songs, raising children and generally having a good time. Chances are, they won’t shave, shower or use deodorant, lack any conception of the inviolability of private property or personal space, and tend to be uninhibited and direct in their choice of sexual partners, so you probably wouldn’t want them around and would perhaps think of them as “dirty hippies” or even as “brutes.” But that’s not what’s important. Nor is it important whether they’d want to have you around: we humans have little use for other human tribes, except for an occasional bit of raiding and bride-snatching. What's important is this: are you ready to be conquered by nature? Because maybe you should be working on that. Dmitry Orlov

Sounds like Orlow has a good head on his shoulders. Although I'm not so sure that "getting ready to be conquered by nature" is headed precisely true.
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: What's Next?

Postby Otto_West » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:50 pm

James S Saint wrote:
Otto_West wrote:There is no such thing as endless energy, nonexistent.

There is nothing but .. endless energy - existence itself.

I'm specifically talking about usable energy to power technological and industrial infrastructure.
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Re: What's Next?

Postby James S Saint » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:53 pm

Otto_West wrote:
James S Saint wrote:
Otto_West wrote:There is no such thing as endless energy, nonexistent.

There is nothing but .. endless energy - existence itself.

I'm specifically talking about usable energy to power technological and industrial infrastructure.

So was I. The energy scare was merely a means to manipulate and control. The whole "free-energy" thing was conquered long ago. But exactly who becomes wealthy and powerful when energy/power is free?
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: What's Next?

Postby Otto_West » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:06 pm

Purely delusional concerning a finite world and universe. I don't have time to indulge in frivolous utopian pipedreams that bear no fruit or ridiculous rumors of such.
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Re: What's Next?

Postby James S Saint » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:56 pm

Otto_West wrote:Purely delusional concerning a finite world and universe. I don't have time to indulge in frivolous utopian pipedreams that bear no fruit or ridiculous rumors of such.

Is it comforting to be informed of the entire compendium of human knowledge? I guess arrogance is tempting to such people.
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: What's Next?

Postby Otto_West » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:02 pm

James S Saint wrote:
Otto_West wrote:Purely delusional concerning a finite world and universe. I don't have time to indulge in frivolous utopian pipedreams that bear no fruit or ridiculous rumors of such.

Is it comforting to be informed of the entire compendium of human knowledge? I guess arrogance is tempting to such people.

Speak for yourself and your pipedreams. If you really were confident in your assertions you would try to prove me incorrect but I am thinking you're incapable of such honest dialogue.
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Re: What's Next?

Postby James S Saint » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:04 am

Otto_West wrote: If you really were confident in your assertions you would try to prove me incorrect but I am thinking you're incapable of such honest dialogue.

No, quite the opposite. Despite many agreements, I see you as far too presumptuous to entertain an in-depth dialog concerning hardly anything that isn't plebeian - that "I already know it all" confidence (to quote you - "Purely delusional ... I don't have time to indulge in frivolous ...". Show me that you have a mind, and I might consider proving more to you than you realized was known. The greatest issue with every person is whether you personally believe in your own logic enough to discuss it.

Of course that is all a distraction from the thread topic- "what comes next?"
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: What's Next?

Postby surreptitious57 » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:50 am

The greatest issue is not whether someone believes what they say enough to want to discuss it but instead whether they will
change their mind once they have been shown to be wrong on something as everyone inevitably will be at some point in time
A MIND IS LIKE A PARACHUTE : IT DOES NOT WORK UNLESS IT IS OPEN
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Re: What's Next?

Postby pilgrim-seeker_tom » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:32 pm

What's next? Who really cares ... as long as the banana supply remains secure. :)

monkey-cage.jpg
Just keep those bananas coming and I'll be OK
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Crude ... yet profoundly true???

Explains why political austerity programs ... very practical in the circumstances ... are facing such resistance.

Addiction withdrawal ... any addiction ... is at best unpleasant/uncomfortable ... at worst incredibly frustrating/painful.

Turn those stones into 'bread' and people will follow you anywhere ... docile and cheerful ... lower the 'bread supply' and run for cover.
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Re: What's Next?

Postby Otto_West » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:16 pm

James S Saint wrote:
Otto_West wrote: If you really were confident in your assertions you would try to prove me incorrect but I am thinking you're incapable of such honest dialogue.

No, quite the opposite. Despite many agreements, I see you as far too presumptuous to entertain an in-depth dialog concerning hardly anything that isn't plebeian - that "I already know it all" confidence (to quote you - "Purely delusional ... I don't have time to indulge in frivolous ...". Show me that you have a mind, and I might consider proving more to you than you realized was known. The greatest issue with every person is whether you personally believe in your own logic enough to discuss it.

Of course that is all a distraction from the thread topic- "what comes next?"

Put up or walk away, present your factual arguments now!
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