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Three letters, should it land people in jail?

Free Speech?

Surprisingly quiet, no discussions about this topic…?

Maybe everybody is just brain dead?

What about shouting one word, “fire” ? Should it land anyone in jail?

You’re wrong.

What’s the rate at which people yell fire in crowded theaters as pranks, versus the amount of times young people and kids tell each other to kill yourself?

Not comparable in the slightest. Seems like nobody around here knows the ramifications for these types of legal rulings.

Oh, we’re qualifying now?

“engage in an extended (2 weeks) campaign of persuading and helping someone commit suicide, bearing witness and not letting anyone else know”

What’s the rate at which that happens?

A mentally unstable teenager (that girl) is not responsible for the wellbeing of another mentally unstable teenager (that boy who committed suicide). If being mean or spiteful is a serious crime, then everybody should be behind bars. The kid who committed suicides parents should be held accountable for his depleted mental health, his “too private” goings on, they should have cared enough to watch over his shoulder online, in texts, etc. Today’s teenagers are as sneaky as Hell, they deserve very limited privacy and no tech privacy period.

…interesting interpretation of a cold-hearted 20 year old. She was tactful and persistent.

The event happened in 2014 when she was an underaged teenager.

Oh true, she was what 16/17 at the time? Still cold-hearted, tactful and persistent.

A kid is a kid. Society needs to decide the undeniable age of a child (18 yrs. or 16 yrs. or 20 yrs…one age) rather than picking and choosing who is a child and who is an adult on a case by case basis.

Wendy is right.

Fuse is wrong.

The ruling was unjust. Even if it were possible to cause somebody’s suicide by jeering and egging them on, still doesn’t mean it should count as a crime. It’s a slippery-slope. At what point can influence be measured?

God, if I did that to somebody at 16/17, I would hope someone would set me straight, if not legally then another way.

So, according to fuse, if somebody tells another to walk out into traffic, and the other does it, then that is murder or attempted murder.

One smile can change the course of someone’s life given at the right time.

“Better to be the one who smiled, than the one who didn’t smile back.”

We develop different capacities at different ages, and still there is variation from person to person. “Adult” is an often arbitrary average, with respect to many of the key points in a person’s development.

If at 16 you think your troubled friend should kill himself, you implore him to do so with fake sweetness and darken any hope or resistance he has against the idea - things have gone terribly wrong. There’s no naivety defense for that, just psychopathy.

Are laws supposed to be arbitrary?

I’ve never given an opinion in this thread or anywhere else on what the consequences for this crime should be. But the collegiality of your arguments cannot be ignored. Please let me meet your sophomoric strawman with…a sophomoric strawman.

According to Urwrongx1000, it’s unclear whether anyone can be influenced, let alone manipulated, through speech. Lies in business, under oath, threats of violence, verbal abuse, harassment - speech can never be criminal, because the precise effect on other people just can’t be measured.

Fuse,

Let’s discuss what the age of an adult should be across the legal board and why.

Forget the word adult. It’s an imaginary line in the sand. Sometimes the law has to deal in arbitrary lines to maintain a semblance of order. With respect to innumerable human realities, arbitrary lines will always fall short of perfect justice.

What matters in this case is this:

If at 16 you think your troubled friend should kill himself, you implore him to do so with fake sweetness and darken any hope or resistance he has against the idea - things have gone terribly wrong. There’s no naivety defense for that, just psychopathy.

Why do you wish to skirt this issue when courts have no way of determining a child’s development nor can they afford the costs to investigate every child’s competence?

At 20, an adult is birthed. Most of the hormonal shifts have transpired, the teenaged years have passed, 20 year olds have some life experience and more of a perspective on their own behaviors separate from individuals say in the pressure-cooker called highschool.

Help? More reasons needed.