a response

this is a general response to the latest left wing bashing that has
gone on…

we condemn violence as violence is never the answer…
that is why we support the state department over the defense department
we on the left have often been accused of being weak on defense and weak
on law and order and weak on terrorism and yet in recent post around here
we have been accused of promoting violence? now we are either in favor of
violence in which case we aren’t weak on defense and terrorism and law and order
or, or we have advocated dialogue over violence and thus are perceived as being weak…

Now the right wing types are trying to have it both ways as is their usual MO…
the right wing gleefully jump upon the ONE instance of a democrat using violence
instead of the multiple terrorist attacks by the right…

I can list 11 different attacks by conservatives and they of course gloss over these
attacks because these events contradicts the conservatives preconceived ism’s,
paradigms and understanding of who they are but this one democrat attack validate
their own misguided vision of liberals… and therein lies the problem…
conservatives have a misguided and fundamentally flawed vision of human beings…
and this allows them to cheer a loner democratic attack on innocents and totally
ignore their own complicity in dozens of attacks carried out in America over the years
by conservatives…

conservatives see themselves has a victim…always under attack even
if the attack has nothing to do with them… conservatives cannot
ever accept that any belief held by them is wrong… you will not hear a conservative
admit they were wrong about beliefs… it is always the other guy who was wrong, never
the conservative…

have you ever heard a conservative accept responsibility for anything?
no, of course not… it is never their fault, it is always liberals or Soros or
Clinton… take your pick, or Obama, that is wrong with the world…

let us look at liberals… we favor dialogue over violence…
and we promote tolerance and diversity and acceptance of
all faiths and of all beliefs… we are attacked quite often for
these beliefs… I personally believe that a child should
get a participation ribbon for sports… I am more about
trying again and again and again then I am about success…
after a lifetime of experience, I know we fail far more then
we succeed and we must learn to persevere against all aggravations,
obstacles and roadblocks that we face in life…

the path to wisdom lies with doubt and not with certainty…
and success is certainty… failure is doubt… and we fail far more
then we succeed…

in other words, liberals understand that it is the journey and not
the destination that matters…and the path to wisdom lies within
the journey… it is about the understanding of who we are and what
is possible that counts and not any short term success or failure…

it is, in my humble opinion, that conservatives have a flawed and
misguided understanding of people and how the world works…
and this, in part, has lead to the profound difficulties that we find
ourselves in today…conservatives have such a flawed understanding
of the universe that they don’t even understand, little less can solve
the difficult issues that face us today…global warming… didn’t happen…
gun violence… not a problem, terrorism that kills a few people… SHUT THE COUNTRY
DOWN AND PREVENT FREEDOM AT ALL COST…(more people died from lightning
strikes last year then from terrorism attacks)

this failed understanding of who we are, prevents conservatives from
making wise choices in terms of policy and in terms of actions…
they are so focused on one specific tree that they don’t see any other
trees around or even the forest… that is why they are so happy to see ONE
instance of violence from the left, for it confirms their flawed understanding of
liberals… whereas we on the left mourn the dead…

as for that list:

1: Wisconsin Sikh massacre. Aug 5, 2012

2: Dr. George Tillman… May 31, 2009

3: Knoxville Unitarian church shooting… July 27, 2008

4: Dr. John Britton… July 29, 1994

5: The centennial Olympic bombing… July 27, 1996

6: Dr. Barnett Slepian

7: Planned Parenthood bombing, 1994

8: Suicide attack IRS building… Feb 18, 2010

9: Timothy McVeigh…April 19, 1995

10: Alan Berg… June 18, 1984

11: Dylann roof… June 17, 2015

12: Portland train attack earlier this year…

Can you come up with a second democratic or liberal person who attack innocents?
No, of course not…it didn’t happen…

Kropotkin

There is much savagery on the left.
Ill keep it at that.

K: and I offered evidence for my position… I see no evidence for your response…
show me the evidence instead of “I feel”…

Kropotkin

K: after some thought, it is really your paradigm that you are in the middle
of, that allows you to think that “there is much savagery on the left” because
it doesn’t exists…in other words, your own thinking that is leading you
to that conclusion that, the left is full of savagery, whereas the facts
and your own statements that the left is “soft” on crime and “soft” on
terrorism and “soft” on law and order disagree with your own statement…

if we are in the midst of much “savagery” then we wouldn’t be “soft”
on crime, would we?

it is your thinking that the Left is full of “savagery” that leads you to that
conclusion, not anything that the left has done or said…

and this is common in right wing/conservative thinking…
you believe that reality conforms to your thinking about reality…
take the right wing conclusion about climate change…
for whatever reason, I am guessing profits over humans,
that you deny climate change is caused by humans, your
beliefs are more important then the facts…instead of adjusting
your thinking to adapt to reality, you would adjust reality to
adapt to your thinking… so you would deny a scientific fact over
the beliefs in your head… belief is more important then facts…
and this is in part why conservative thinking is a failure…
it cannot adjust to the reality of any given situation because
to do so would mean rejecting the paradigms and ism’s that
are so important to you that you would reject reality to protect those
paradigms and ism’s…this is a common flaw even in liberals…
the paradigm is more important then the reality of the situation and
thus one cannot adjust or adapt to the reality of any given situation…
the saving grace of the liberal is that we doubt… we cannot accept
certainty and the path to wisdom is doubt, not certainty…

the right believes that to doubt is weakness and the left believes
that certainty is the path to failure…

Kropotkin

These schizophrenia ramblings are nothing but an attempt to deny what you know you are. Violent, hateful, spiteful, arrogant, ignorant, apathetic, reactionary, uncritical, a follower and not a leader, a dogmatic rather than free thinker, a desperate virtue signaler, a reality denier.

What the hell happened to you?

If the political left had its way it would turn all western nations into a scenario of Khmer Rouge.

Please spare us all the fake platitudes and apologetics. Not buying into the bullshit a single minute.

Reigning it in, eh?

K: and I have no doubt you think that this passes for an argument of some sorts…
but it is simply a list of insults and no argument or evidence of any type has been offered…

it is a sad state of affairs when a list of insults is thought of as an argument or
evidence for position taken…I did notice that you weren’t warned as
I was warned a few days ago for saying a lot less… but hay…
it is what it is…

Kropotkin

K: and it is your paradigm that leads you to this conclusion, not
anything liberals has done… you are simply trapped into thinking certain thoughts
because you haven’t outgrown the paradigm you grew up with… in other words,
you still have the same beliefs you were taught as a child… you haven’t grown
as a person or as a thinker…

Kropotkin

My bad. I forgot ideological, predictable, boring, banal, sycophantic, and self-hating.