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Re: Group pride

Postby Is_Yde_opN » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:58 am

Luckily I found this helpful guide to identify how to correctly handle the issue of group pride.

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Re: Group pride

Postby MagsJ » Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:56 pm

Is_Yde_opN wrote:Luckily I found this helpful guide to identify how to correctly handle the issue of group pride.

:lol:

I still don't understand how the Muslims are getting away with their 'crying wolf/terrorism' act? The last week here has been all about that, and Labour condoning their actions while saying they don't.. in the same breath. Seems like they've been giving birth to their own personal army over the last couple of decades, to take over London and infiltrate our government offices and services.

I really have no idea what the Jewish agenda is, and the black agenda is usually about hating everyone else.. and often even their own.
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Re: Group pride

Postby Is_Yde_opN » Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:16 pm

MagsJ wrote:
Is_Yde_opN wrote:Luckily I found this helpful guide to identify how to correctly handle the issue of group pride.

:lol:

I still don't understand how the Muslims are getting away with their 'crying wolf/terrorism' act? The last week here has been all about that, and Labour condoning their actions while saying they don't.. in the same breath. Seems like they've been giving birth to their own personal army over the last couple of decades, to take over London and infiltrate our government offices and services.

I really have no idea what the Jewish agenda is, and the black agenda is usually about hating everyone else.. and often even their own.


Well, we are all familiar with the hateful redneck.
By the way, apparently that term comes from what happens when you are White and you work a lot in the sun, wearing a hat and a shirt, leaving your neck exposed.
Or at least we are familiar with the people who promoted and promote that stereotype.
Either way, doesn't really matter who is the hateful, the point is that hate is not that uncommon in people.

To come to your question, there are several factors here, like people who genuinely believe that those Muslim will be a net benefit economically and save their pensions and 401k and so forth. Some older ladies might even like the idea of having a fling with one those cute refugee boy-toys. Which is unfortunately not as far fetched as I'd have liked to believe. Corporate interests...

But all of this wouldn't explain the zealousness with which they love to import those foreign people.
And when I read some of the sneering comments and articles in favour of Muslim immigration then one can't help but notice quite a lot of hate in many people towards Europeans.
But I also think that it's not limited against Europeans, they are just the most ripe and opportune target in the current social climate.

That hate is not limited to some people low on the food chain, no, it's also very common among the elites of the West.
Wouldn't be the first empire to destroy itself from within.

And for those people, Muslims are a tool for their agendas and their loathing.
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Re: Group pride

Postby Fixed Cross » Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:26 pm

This god damned EU made European group pride impossible.
What the hell are we supposed to identify with under that name?

I come from a coastal province called Noord-Holland. The upper half of which I identify with, naturally, as being able to shake anyones hand and feel an understanding of fate and necessity. This only applies outside of Amsterdam and other 100.000 + towns.

100 km to the south I recognize almost nothing. People are a complete opaque and unattractive anthill. Zuid Holland is as alien to me as Mongolia. Maybe more so. Rotterdam waar ligt dat dan?
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Re: Group pride

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Re: Group pride

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:17 pm

It's simple mathematics.
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Re: Group pride

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Re: Group pride

Postby Pistolero » Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:58 am

Mr Reasonable wrote:So owning slaves and burning crosses makes a group superior? I just thought that meant they had leverage. Ever heard of luck?


Producing greatest philosophers, artists, scientists, military leaders and dominating the majority of world both physically and culturally makes a group superior.

Luck? Really?

Give me a break. Luck can only get you so far.
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Re: Group pride

Postby MagsJ » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:46 pm

Pistolero wrote:Producing greatest philosophers, artists, scientists, military leaders and dominating the majority of world both physically and culturally makes a group superior.

Luck? Really?

Give me a break. Luck can only get you so far.

The West deeming the West culturally superior is akin to patting oneself on the back... cultural variety is a beautiful thing, and not something to be forced on anyone, so save it buddy! I choose what Art, Philosophy, fashion, lifestyle I want to surround myself with.. not a dictat.

The West is not responsible for science and mathematics alone, and I abhor the world and its achievements being tarnished by more self back-patting.
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Re: Group pride

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:03 pm

MagsJ wrote:and I abhor the world and its achievements being tarnished by more self back-patting.

And I abhor those who would deprive my ancestors of their achievements, try to claim them as their own, or to deny me my rightful heritage.

There's nothing wrong with Pride, in moderation. In fact, that maybe the only thing Right in the world.
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Re: Group pride

Postby MagsJ » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:23 pm

Urwrongx1000 wrote:
MagsJ wrote:and I abhor the world and its achievements being tarnished by more self back-patting.

And I abhor those who would deprive my ancestors of their achievements, try to claim them as their own, or to deny me my rightful heritage.
..but yet it happens.
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Re: Group pride

Postby Is_Yde_opN » Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:13 pm

MagsJ wrote:and I abhor the world and its achievements being tarnished by more self back-patting.


Let's not tarnish those achievements by the 'world' back-patting itself.
We humble ones.
It was.... god and since I am a humble servant of muh humanity, I mean god, it's me who is humbly associated with those achievements, more so than those self-back-patting selfish people.
*wink* *wink*
*empty eyes and blink blink*

They should do a documentary on dung beetles rolling their huge balls of dung and then the narrator talks about the world and how the world is responsible for this achievement through this shared evolution on the planet, no, the universe, think even bigger, think big bang and how we are all special star dust.
What a great and deep insight into the achievements of dung beetle the viewer will have gained by this.
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Re: Group pride

Postby MagsJ » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:17 pm

Is_Yde_opN wrote:
MagsJ wrote:and I abhor the world and its achievements being tarnished by more self back-patting.
Let's not tarnish those achievements by the 'world' back-patting itself.
We humble ones.
It was.... god and since I am a humble servant of muh humanity, I mean god, it's me who is humbly associated with those achievements, more so than those self-back-patting selfish people.
*wink* *wink*
*empty eyes and blink blink*

Is this your view on the matter? your projected view...

They should do a documentary on dung beetles rolling their huge balls of dung and then the narrator talks about the world and how the world is responsible for this achievement through this shared evolution on the planet, no, the universe, think even bigger, think big bang and how we are all special star dust.
What a great and deep insight into the achievements of dung beetle the viewer will have gained by this.

..once you've seen one documentary on dung beetles you've seen them all.. they never go off script.
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Re: Group pride

Postby Is_Yde_opN » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:34 pm

MagsJ wrote:
Is_Yde_opN wrote:
MagsJ wrote:and I abhor the world and its achievements being tarnished by more self back-patting.
Let's not tarnish those achievements by the 'world' back-patting itself.
We humble ones.
It was.... god and since I am a humble servant of muh humanity, I mean god, it's me who is humbly associated with those achievements, more so than those self-back-patting selfish people.
*wink* *wink*
*empty eyes and blink blink*

Is this your view on the matter? your projected view...


Is me projecting that you project back-patting onto other people inaccurate?
I don't mind you being selfish, I don't even mind you pretending to not be selfish while you claim some worldly high ground.
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Re: Group pride

Postby Is_Yde_opN » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:45 pm

Group pride is about self-identity, self-knowledge and not being ashamed of what you are.
It's very easy to attack and smear a particular group by reducing them to specific features and declare those qualities to be morally deficient.
It becomes toxic when those individuals claim to be part of that same group, like for example those (((fellow white people))).
It becomes also toxic when people operate under the mantle of humanity while they attack a certain group.
The attacker talks in the name of humanity while disparaging a certain group. By doing so he claims to be also part of and speak for the group he is disparaging.
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Re: Group pride

Postby Otto_West » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:16 am

Part of my problem with so called superiority is, how could a superior culture and civilization destroy itself as it is currently? I have nothing but disdain for supremacism, by all means let us preserve or protect ourselves but not under some idiotic claim of superiority. Superiority is nonsense as collectively we have weaknesses and shortcomings like everybody else.
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Re: Group pride

Postby MagsJ » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:33 am

Is_Yde_opN wrote:[Is me projecting that you project back-patting onto other people inaccurate?

You are ignoring the context in which that was said... how convenient. Your version of European Philosophy at its best? ..and now we are back to the original context in which that was said, so please feel free to discuss my back-patting comment in its context and not your self-serving version of it.

I don't mind you being selfish, I don't even mind you pretending to not be selfish...
..an assumption? based on my comment that was replied to out of context.. but thank you for not minding my assumed state of selfishness ;)

..while you claim some worldly high ground.
..well some body has to. I don't roll with the masses, so I guess it's a natural goto/default position for me.
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Re: Group pride

Postby MagsJ » Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:02 pm

Is_Yde_opN wrote:It becomes also toxic when people operate under the mantle of humanity while they attack a certain group. The attacker talks in the name of humanity while disparaging a certain group. By doing so he claims to be also part of and speak for the group he is disparaging.

Did you feel that I was on the attack? if so.. you feel easily threatened, it seems.

The EU and European governments (not the individual) need to be held accountable for the current state of Europe, and 'taking back control' of our borders is one way to appease the migrant situation, and not an act of racism.. like the EU and it's overly-liberal followers are labelling it - here in the UK we are holding our government accountable for everything that works against the needs of its subjects, and we are being listened to and our needs met.
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Re: Group pride

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:45 pm

Pistolero wrote:Luck? Really?

Give me a break. Luck can only get you so far.


My mathematics comment, was meant to refer to the simple mathematics of that blacks and minorities animosty towards whites is entirely predictable, it is similar to how hitler massacred a bunch of innocent jews, nazis were trying to punish the sons of the jews for their ancestors crimes, similar to how blacks need a scapegoat and to punish innocent whites for their ancestors crimes.

secondarily, white society does kind of suck and they are kind of responsible for all of their own problems, whites complain about blacks in america even though whites brought them over in the first place, whites are also heavily brainwashed by religion and so aren't really a good master race, i think interracials would be better at global leadership because they have more wisdom and understanding of other races, and can act like an arbiter or liazon without being accused of bias. like for example, i am not afraid to say rap music sucks and that black culture is ghetto, i can say this because im half black and they cant accuse me of bias.
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Re: Group pride

Postby Is_Yde_opN » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:56 pm

MagsJ wrote:
Is_Yde_opN wrote:It becomes also toxic when people operate under the mantle of humanity while they attack a certain group. The attacker talks in the name of humanity while disparaging a certain group. By doing so he claims to be also part of and speak for the group he is disparaging.

Did you feel that I was on the attack? if so.. you feel easily threatened, it seems.

The EU and European governments (not the individual) need to be held accountable for the current state of Europe, and 'taking back control' of our borders is one way to appease the migrant situation, and not an act of racism.. like the EU and it's overly-liberal followers are labelling it - here in the UK we are holding our government accountable for everything that works against the needs of its subjects, and we are being listened to and our needs met.


When I say selfish then that’s not something morally bad.
Everybody is selfish. Let’s not poison the morality of people being true and honest with themselves.
The people who fling the word selfish around as a moral fault just want said person to conform to their wishes and expectations and instead of being honest about it they propose that being true to oneself is bad.
They could just as well say that it’s bad that someone does what they want to do, because that’s selfish.
Instead of saying that they want some assistance, some help, some consideration, they turn the tables and make the other person being him-/her-self into a moral failing.
Not good.

When I say on the attack then that’s also not meant as a moral failing.
I even posted it separately to convey that it’s not about you personally.

So spare me the “threatened/afraid” routine. It’s boring.
Relax, I will feel threatened, be defensive and so on as much as I will.

Either way, I have come to the conclusion that you are into patting yourself on the back.
It’s based on your admission of having the moral high ground in combination with your view on morality, I mean your meta view of morality which is very much tied to being good or bad as a person.

To clarify again, I have no issue with you patting yourself on the back or your meta view of morality.
It’s neither good nor bad to me in that sense.
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Re: Group pride

Postby AutSider » Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:30 pm

Every accusation of selfishness is motivated by selfishness. When you accuse somebody of being selfish what you're saying can be broken down to "you're not doing enough for me, think of me more and of yourself less"

It's selfish to demand that somebody else does more for you or some other stranger than themselves, no?
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Re: Group pride

Postby Mr Reasonable » Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:02 pm

Hey are you guys proud of your group in Virginia? I was watching videos of the crowd there and those guys seem like...totally superior. I mean they're all so smart, and clean, and decent.

Did you see the one who smashed his car into all those hippie types? He seemed like a superior human being. Really smart guy. Very clean, very decent.
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Re: Group pride

Postby Is_Yde_opN » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:42 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:Hey are you guys proud of your group in Virginia? I was watching videos of the crowd there and those guys seem like...totally superior. I mean they're all so smart, and clean, and decent.

Did you see the one who smashed his car into all those hippie types? He seemed like a superior human being. Really smart guy. Very clean, very decent.


Those hippie types are the always violent and hateful antifa which is in contrast to the lawful and peaceful demonstration of the Right-Wing-Groups were there to hurt people who they hate. Police under orders of the dieversity establishment in the city let the violence initiated by antifa escalate.
That's to be expected with an openly anti-white establishment in place and since nobody who is mentally stable wants to live under such a tyrannical non-law-abiding rule the rise of resistance to the hateful liars is inevitable.
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Re: Group pride

Postby Otto_West » Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:06 pm

MagsJ wrote:
Is_Yde_opN wrote:Luckily I found this helpful guide to identify how to correctly handle the issue of group pride.

:lol:

I still don't understand how the Muslims are getting away with their 'crying wolf/terrorism' act? The last week here has been all about that, and Labour condoning their actions while saying they don't.. in the same breath. Seems like they've been giving birth to their own personal army over the last couple of decades, to take over London and infiltrate our government offices and services.

I really have no idea what the Jewish agenda is, and the black agenda is usually about hating everyone else.. and often even their own.

Don't know what the Jewish agenda is? Suggestive reading, look into Chabad.
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Re: Group pride

Postby Otto_West » Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:07 pm

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:
Pistolero wrote:Luck? Really?

Give me a break. Luck can only get you so far.


My mathematics comment, was meant to refer to the simple mathematics of that blacks and minorities animosty towards whites is entirely predictable, it is similar to how hitler massacred a bunch of innocent jews, nazis were trying to punish the sons of the jews for their ancestors crimes, similar to how blacks need a scapegoat and to punish innocent whites for their ancestors crimes.

secondarily, white society does kind of suck and they are kind of responsible for all of their own problems, whites complain about blacks in america even though whites brought them over in the first place, whites are also heavily brainwashed by religion and so aren't really a good master race, i think interracials would be better at global leadership because they have more wisdom and understanding of other races, and can act like an arbiter or liazon without being accused of bias. like for example, i am not afraid to say rap music sucks and that black culture is ghetto, i can say this because im half black and they cant accuse me of bias.


Ignores the fact that many of the African slave traders were Jewish and Arab.
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