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Is Donald Trump DANGEROUS?

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No.
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Re: Is Donald Trump Dangerous?

Postby Pandora » Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:23 pm

Trump wants to boost defense spending:

The Department of Defense (DOD) provides the military forces needed to deter war and to protect the security of the United States. The budget for DOD ends the depletion of our military and pursues peace through strength, honoring the Federal Government’s first responsibility: to protect the Nation.

It fully repeals the defense sequestration, while providing the needed resources for accelerating the defeat of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and for beginning to rebuild the U.S. Armed Forces.

The President’s 2018 Budget requests $639 billion for DOD, a $52 billion increase from the 2017 annualized CR level. The total includes $574 billion for the base budget, a 10 percent increase from the 2017 annualized CR level, and $65 billion for Overseas Contingency Operations.

The President’s 2018 Budget:


Repeals the defense sequestration by restoring $52 billion to DOD, as well as $2 billion to other national defense programs outside DOD, for a $54 billion total increase for national defense discretionary budget authority above the sequestration level budget cap.

When the Budget Control Act (BCA) of 2011 was enacted, the defense sequestration was not meant to occur, yet it has never been fully repealed. This has resulted in nearly $200 billion of national defense cuts since 2013 and over $200 billion of further projected cuts through 2021, relative to the original BCA caps alone. Reversing this indiscriminate neglect of the last administration is not only a fulfillment of the President’s promise, but it is also a requirement if this Nation’s security is to be maintained.

The military’s depletion under President Obama is our foremost challenge. The President’s 2018 Budget ends the arbitrary depletion of our strength and security, and begins to rebuild the U.S. Armed Forces.

Increases DOD’s budget authority by $52 billion above the current 2017 level of $587 billion. This increase alone exceeds the entire defense budget of most countries, and would be one of the largest one-year DOD increases in American history. It is exceeded only by the peak increases of the Reagan Administration and a few of the largest defense increases during the World Wars and the conflicts in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan (in constant dollars, based on GDP chained price index).

Unlike spending increases for war, which mostly consume resources in combat, the increases in the President’s Budget primarily invest in a
stronger military.


http://www.npr.org/2017/03/16/520379061 ... -blueprint
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Re: Is Donald Trump Dangerous?

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:31 pm

Pandora wrote:Trump wants to boost defense spending:

The Department of Defense (DOD) provides the military forces needed to deter war and to protect the security of the United States. The budget for DOD ends the depletion of our military and pursues peace through strength, honoring the Federal Government’s first responsibility: to protect the Nation.

It fully repeals the defense sequestration, while providing the needed resources for accelerating the defeat of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and for beginning to rebuild the U.S. Armed Forces.

The President’s 2018 Budget requests $639 billion for DOD, a $52 billion increase from the 2017 annualized CR level. The total includes $574 billion for the base budget, a 10 percent increase from the 2017 annualized CR level, and $65 billion for Overseas Contingency Operations.

The President’s 2018 Budget:


Repeals the defense sequestration by restoring $52 billion to DOD, as well as $2 billion to other national defense programs outside DOD, for a $54 billion total increase for national defense discretionary budget authority above the sequestration level budget cap.

When the Budget Control Act (BCA) of 2011 was enacted, the defense sequestration was not meant to occur, yet it has never been fully repealed. This has resulted in nearly $200 billion of national defense cuts since 2013 and over $200 billion of further projected cuts through 2021, relative to the original BCA caps alone. Reversing this indiscriminate neglect of the last administration is not only a fulfillment of the President’s promise, but it is also a requirement if this Nation’s security is to be maintained.

The military’s depletion under President Obama is our foremost challenge. The President’s 2018 Budget ends the arbitrary depletion of our strength and security, and begins to rebuild the U.S. Armed Forces.

Increases DOD’s budget authority by $52 billion above the current 2017 level of $587 billion. This increase alone exceeds the entire defense budget of most countries, and would be one of the largest one-year DOD increases in American history. It is exceeded only by the peak increases of the Reagan Administration and a few of the largest defense increases during the World Wars and the conflicts in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan (in constant dollars, based on GDP chained price index).

Unlike spending increases for war, which mostly consume resources in combat, the increases in the President’s Budget primarily invest in a
stronger military.


http://www.npr.org/2017/03/16/520379061 ... -blueprint


K: in other words, it is wasted money that does nothing outside of making defense contractors
wealthy... correction, even wealthier... it does not stimulate the economy, it doesn't create
jobs, it doesn't improve the economy, it doesn't help the budget, it doesn't help the deficit...

it does nothing but it looks good... it pretends to be about security but it actually about
helping rich people getting richer... and that will be its sole influence.....

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Re: Is Donald Trump Dangerous?

Postby Pandora » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:15 am

It supports the dollar.
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Re: Is Donald Trump Dangerous?

Postby Arminius » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:58 am

Some Guy in History wrote:
phyllo wrote:
I was talking about a lie.
What's worse, lying or letting people get gassed?


We could have both, you know. We could lie AND gas people. I think it's called having our cake and being able to eat it.

Yes. First they sold the gas to the islam terrorists, then they lied about that fact and many other facts - as usual. Do you remember what was told for example (1) about the port of Havanna, (2) about the Lusitania, (3) about Pearl Harbor, (4) about the Gulf of Tanking, (5) about the Twin Towers, (6) about the chemical weapons in Iraq, (7) about the gas in Syria? Answer: (1) Lies, (2) lies, (3) lies, (4) lies, (5) lies, (6) lies, (7) lies.

Being a super power means being a super liar. Saddam Hussein said that Bush’s lie about the chemical weapons in Iraq was „the mother of all lies“.

Power, lies and slavery correlate with each other.

"It is better to fall alone with the free than to go in triumph with the slaves." - Ernst Jünger, On the Marble Cliffs (original: Auf den Marmorklippen), 1939. Translated by me.
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Re: Is Donald Trump Dangerous?

Postby Pandora » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:08 am

Yikes!! Talk about a slip. :o That's a little scary coming from a leader of a supernation.
(Something tells me Trump may not really be in control).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eSz8GM5hvM

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Re: Is Donald Trump Dangerous?

Postby Pandora » Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:17 am

Or, he's a con man. :-?
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Re: Is Donald Trump Dangerous?

Postby Meno_ » Tue May 02, 2017 5:59 am

I think the con is working and spinning out of control. The attack on the first amendment has been acknowledged, Trump's spin on Kim, 'being a smart cookie' , Duarte being invited to the White House, no revelations on the release of Taxes, some kind of funky to do about Russia and Putin, conflict of government and business interests, distrust and attack on the media, the FBI, and the intelligence community, the appeal to minority haters, and the non deliverance on health care, the wall, NATO, retreat on NAFTA, vacationing weekly in Florida, incoherence and ambiguity. Yet, despite his incredibly low popularity even within his own party, he appears as solidly positioned as ever, even wanting to get rid of some congressional rules in the House and the Senate.


Will this trend, make the country safer and bigger or reveal soon the cracks turn into systemic breaks within the whole power structure?

The more this charade goes on, the more it appears it to be kind of plays within power plays, twofold in its function: appease the base, while denying any truthful content.

Not to imply that this is politics as usual, but for the first time, it being so brazenly and condescendingly overt.

Is this conducive to a dangerous political meltdown supplanted with more defensiveness of the power structure?

This question can not yet be determined with sufficient assurance. Time may tell.
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Re: Is Donald Trump Dangerous?

Postby Pandora » Fri May 05, 2017 7:33 am

Meno_ wrote:
The more this charade goes on, the more it appears it to be kind of plays within power plays, twofold in its function: appease the base, while denying any truthful content.

Not to imply that this is politics as usual, but for the first time, it being so brazenly and condescendingly overt.
I can believe it as well. One of the interpretations of the cake incident was a message that America is getting influence over China. For now that's been called a bluff, seeking out weaknesses, but no one seemed to flinch, yet. With these tactics, if they are to be seen this way, he does give off a sleazy businessman vibe, and we know that DONald did spend quite a bit of his time involved in shady dealings in the past. And to keep in mind, this is the environment that he grew up and learned his craft (maybe somewhat businesslike, if you want to call it that way, but definitely not very trustworthy if you ask me): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k3B-tw2sB0
To be fair, though, I wouldn't be surprised that other heads of government are not involved in mafia stuff (whether they call it secret service or whatever). Heck, this is the kind of dealings I'd imagine the famous Medici family were involved in 15th century Florence, as well. So, in all, I think not much has changed in centuries in terms of human nature and power grabbing games. :-? And yes, I agree, it's basically same thing all over, just more blatant with Trump.
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Re: Is Donald Trump Dangerous?

Postby Pandora » Mon May 08, 2017 7:09 pm

Kushner woos Chinese investors:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/in ... 8f76bd9695

So, Ivanka is selling her self-help/advice book for working women and her husband is selling EB-5 immigration visas to the rich Chinese. I don't know what game they're playing but I don't see the interests of regular working class Americans represented here.

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Re: Is Donald Trump Dangerous?

Postby Pandora » Mon May 15, 2017 9:16 pm

Ivanka is raising her kids to speak Mandarin Chinese.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-Q_0MFWK3s

Arabella meets and sings for Chinese President:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG_ImFYhsPo

Ivanka brings Arabella to Chinese Embassy for Chinese New Year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvKDe1UrJCY

I can see Kushners expanding into China in the future: lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy7bchG3CpE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42skMIZgakg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ABlh0PQXMI
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Re: Is Donald Trump Dangerous?

Postby Jakob » Mon May 15, 2017 9:26 pm

Trump had contact with a criminal lawyer to buy concrete... Clont was a criminal lawyer, and has contacts with all the most depraved types of criminals.


Whats not smart about the kid learning Chinese?


Eventually, you know, the Chinamen start using their army, and it will be against the states that have something useful in the ground. Not us.
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Re: Is Donald Trump Dangerous?

Postby Jakob » Mon May 15, 2017 10:27 pm

hah.

What i said.


read the paragraphs about Pakistan.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... initiative
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Re: Is Donald Trump Dangerous?

Postby Pandora » Tue May 16, 2017 7:27 pm

Jakob wrote:Whats not smart about the kid learning Chinese?
I'm not aware of any head of state (maybe with the exception of British crown, which doesn't really count anyway) that so blatantly parades its children and relatives around in public (and in front of other leaders). That's nepotism in action. Jared Kushner recently visited Iraq and met with its president and generals as Trump's right hand man. He's a real-estate businessman who got ahead in life with old family money. What does he know about Iraq (or criminal justice reforms, or veteran care, or opioid epidemic..) to be elevated above people who dedicate their whole lives to the issue? Sorry, but this kind of stuff just irks me. The only argument presented in favor is that some other countries might actually prefer this kind of set up, as it makes access to Trump appear more direct. (??).

Kushner in Iraq. This guy is way in over his head. I am thinking at some point, he might have to wear a vest on permanent basis. This is a dumb idea because hurting Trump has just gotten easier too.
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Re: Is Donald Trump Dangerous?

Postby Meno_ » Wed May 17, 2017 12:31 pm

The latest article on Trump came out by an opinion columnist of renown that Trump has the mentality of a 7 year old child.
His tantrums his lack of understanding, his doublecross of his friends and allies surrounding him, but strangely playing the emperor has no clothes game for their own peculiar reasons,his leaking, his attacks on established news by the use of manufactured facts led to a deep crevice in the politically strenuous football usually played with overt force by those in power


Could this be happening? Really? And echoes of Nixonian impeachment proceedings are haraingong everywhere, with the latest New Yorker editorial calling for the use of the 25th amendment to remove him ?

Further, his cabinet are tiptoing a fine line beginning to opiniate about the meltdown do to incompetence swirling all around a purely self validating chief executive.


Yet this poll still is decided 50-50 among the intellectuals of this here forum.

Does this change the outlook and the statistics, as modestly consisting of a very limited sample?

Any comments or observatipns?
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Re: Is Donald Trump Dangerous?

Postby Meno_ » Thu May 18, 2017 1:51 am

The Trump strategy consists of the use of chaos rather then resolution, it thrives on dividing conflicting elements, classes, the expansion rather then the narrowing of racial divide, the focus rather then the dispersion of the dynamics of the content of the underlying social discontent.
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Re: Is Donald Trump Dangerous?

Postby Meno_ » Thu May 18, 2017 6:24 am

The ONLY credible conclusion which can be drawn is, whether there is method in the madness.

If there is, which is highly likely, then the question which follows, is , if that method is useful and/or.part of a program,
(be it machine or human or hybrid) run.

If any of the Last can shred an iota of credence toward the possibility of this, then the truth or in truth of reality manufactured or otherwise derived; is beyond good or evil.
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Re: Is Donald Trump Dangerous?

Postby Meno_ » Thu May 18, 2017 6:24 am

The ONLY credible conclusion which can be drawn is, whether there is method in the madness.

If there is, which is highly likely, then the question which follows, is , if that method is useful and/or.part of a program,
(be it machine or human or hybrid) run.

If any of the Last can shred an iota of credence toward the possibility of this, then the truth or untruth of reality manufactured or otherwise derived; is beyond good or evil.

But, perchance there is no method we may be for quite a ride
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Re: Is Donald Trump Dangerous?

Postby Pandora » Thu May 18, 2017 7:47 am

The markets have reacted too:
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-39953112
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Re: Is Donald Trump Dangerous?

Postby MagsJ » Thu May 18, 2017 11:58 am

From what I saw on the news last night.. looks like many are now crying for his Impeachment.

I can see this happening.. soon.

Putting a nephertistic bunch of businessmen in charge of running a continent isn't the smartest move... why can't Arnold be able to run for President.. why! why! why! :crying-pink:
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Re: Is Donald Trump Dangerous?

Postby Pandora » Fri May 19, 2017 4:57 pm

MagsJ wrote:From what I saw on the news last night.. looks like many are now crying for his Impeachment.
I can see Hillary's hand in all the media bashing.
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Re: Is Donald Trump Dangerous?

Postby Jakob » Fri May 19, 2017 8:06 pm

Meno_ wrote:The Trump strategy consists of the use of chaos rather then resolution, it thrives on dividing conflicting elements, classes, the expansion rather then the narrowing of racial divide, the focus rather then the dispersion of the dynamics of the content of the underlying social discontent.


Confuse and conquer is definitely in his repertoire.
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Re: Is Donald Trump Dangerous?

Postby Jakob » Fri May 19, 2017 8:18 pm

If the US cant get behind its elected leader and manages to impeach him on exhaustively even exhaustingly comprehensively proven to be bullshit grounds, I wonder if it isnt the end. What could possibly go right after such a pretentious self-strangulation?

Is there anyone who seriously expects peaceful elections to be possible after an overt and internationally pushed coup by the global Communist/Rapist community?

Et c'est parti.
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Re: Is Donald Trump Dangerous?

Postby Jakob » Sat May 20, 2017 8:41 pm

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Re: Is Donald Trump Dangerous?

Postby Meno_ » Sun May 21, 2017 1:10 am

Jakob wrote:If the US cant get behind its elected leader and manages to impeach him on exhaustively even exhaustingly comprehensively proven to be bullshit grounds, I wonder if it isnt the end. What could possibly go right after such a pretentious self-strangulation?

It might surprise everyone, say 6 months down the line, just how popular and effective leader of the new world order he can become, but the alternate can be equally possible.

This post modern executive is different in type as well as kind, democracy as we have learned it is no longer applicable, nor, affordable, especially as practiced in the Wwww
Is there anyone who seriously expects peaceful elections to be possible after an overt and internationally pushed coup by the global Communist/Rapist community?

Et c'est parti.


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Re: Is Donald Trump Dangerous?

Postby Meno_ » Sun May 21, 2017 1:11 am

The new world order may find someone like him quite useful
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