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isit ok to be gay?

Postby mannikin » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:30 pm

is it?
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Re: isit ok to be gay?

Postby AutSider » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:15 pm

Elaborate.
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Re: isit ok to be gay?

Postby Meno_ » Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:50 pm

The other day payed up after my hernia operation, I read Dan Brown's 'Inferni', loosely based on Dante, and using Florence as a backdrop.

He is very , very subtle about the homoerotic art, namely some obvious ones, like the huuuuge sculpture of David. To the ordinary reader, these observations are far and few between, so no connections can be made between perception, analysis of the central motive, and preferences.

Needless to say, upon more careful reading, the central motive so overshadows any other sub-motive, that the sexual embellishments fade into the background.

But. And here is a but, not to be overlooked, there is a hypothesis out there among earthies and population control theorists, that the gay agenda serves a very keen function in limiting human reproduction. The message is so dire, that the author gives about a hundred years, if that much, for a total collapse of humanity, along the lines of the Malthusian principle of pupulatiin increase vastly over running the possible increases in the production of food.

I have gone half way in the book, and have no idea of how there may be any resolution, but the argument is valid only if Malthus is to be believed.

We have Trump, who disbelieved green ideas, including the use of fossil fuels, meat production, pollution, and he may be actually going against the tenets of any protocol which serves to protect the environment.

Is homosexuality ok and functional? There are tremendous problems with it, such as those relating to the stability of the family, and the shallow visual triggers which basically shortcut the deeper levels of meaningful relationships, again so they claim. But can these objections be overcome by the obvious problems that overpopulation causes?

According to Brown, and the myriad scholars helping him write it, the problem is overwhelming, and the sustained insistence on limited sexual mores are far outweighed. The latter is the opinion of those , pushing the gay agenda, and their rationale is interesting. They claim, that it is Nature Herself, which changes not only opinions, but actually the very bio-chemical processes which adept living organisms toward survival values.

This is why, astronomy, space science and technology is in such a hurry to find other places to live in in the universe.

Of course, there are other factors dealing with repression, the retention of ideal structural processes, surrounding it, and these claim a trivialization of life in all its aspects, were the ideal converted into phenomenal manifestations.

The phenomenological , or conceptual relegation of Eros, would undermine the ontological certainty by which society , by keeps and bounds managed to keep civilization going, in the scholastic sense.

This sense, is as important to human values, as its nemesis, and the two proceeded side by side hysterically, one overt, the other latent, a shadow, always on its heel.

With all considerations aside, it should be possible to ferret out the relative truth of what is going on in regards to homosexuality, but the structural backward glance, as it is with other studies which relay on inductive reasoning, the biases can never be truly excavated.

I said a lot, because the few lines in the preceding comments were very brief, and attempted only to come to some type of opinion based answer.

I would think, personally, that homosexuality far more a literal type of behavior, not having the structural balance, which heterosexuality has earned over the eons of time. This is why the Vatican classifies it as a structural imbalance. They are right of course, but their argument is null, since structure comes with assemblage through the approved process of life, hence repression cannot add to it. Therefore to categorize it is missing a very important point, akin to the Vatican's fear of loosing increasing membership to the Church, would the approve methods of birth control and abortion.

It would seem, that on a structural level, there is an insoluability, which reflects the question toward an either/or balance pitting opinions against science.

But again, there are those who reject the implications of Malthus, for various reasons.
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Re: isit ok to be gay?

Postby Some Guy in History » Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:52 pm

mannikin wrote:is it?


Yes. Just not with me.
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Re: isit ok to be gay?

Postby incorrect » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:27 am

mannikin wrote:is it?


is purpose involved?
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Re: isit ok to be gay?

Postby mannikin » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:34 am

like should homosexual sex education be taught in schools regarding the safety of the act?
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Re: isit ok to be gay?

Postby incorrect » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:44 am

i think it is wrong to be deceitful about patterns exhibited by adults, straight or gay

i think expressing one's intentions is okay as long as it is clearly demarcated/denoted as an intention/desire, and not a limitation that ACTUALLY exists

meaning if the exception exists, don't teach the rule

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Re: isit ok to be gay?

Postby surreptitious57 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:22 am

Is it OK to be something that you have no control over? Is psychopathy OK as
long as no one gets killed? Does serial killing bother you more than anal sex?
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Re: isit ok to be gay?

Postby Pandora » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:52 am

Are you asking for permission, manni? :mrgreen:
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Re: isit ok to be gay?

Postby A Shieldmaiden » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:52 am

No. Nor would I encourage nor legitimize such a destructive lifestyle.
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Re: isit ok to be gay?

Postby mannikin » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:09 am

A Shieldmaiden wrote:No. Nor would I encourage nor legitimize such a destructive lifestyle.



Can you expand on this?
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Re: isit ok to be gay?

Postby surreptitious57 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:33 am

It is interesting some times to see how information is processed and here is a wonderful example. The question
pertains to sexual orientation yet manages to get translated within the minds of some as pertaining to lifestyle
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Re: isit ok to be gay?

Postby mannikin » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:37 am

interesting...
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Re: isit ok to be gay?

Postby A Shieldmaiden » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:32 pm

A Shieldmaiden wrote:
No. Nor would I encourage nor legitimize such a destructive lifestyle.

Can you expand on this?


No. it is all I wish to say.
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Re: isit ok to be gay?

Postby mannikin » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:47 pm

surreptitious57

What are your thoughts on A Shieldmaiden's unwillingness to expand on her statements?
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Re: isit ok to be gay?

Postby A Shieldmaiden » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:16 pm

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Re: isit ok to be gay?

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:22 pm

When society forces you to be gay and creates a global prison system of being gay, you are blameless and innocent, being gay is not in your hands.
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Re: isit ok to be gay?

Postby mannikin » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:32 pm

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:When society forces you to be gay and creates a global prison system of being gay, you are blameless and innocent, being gay is not in your hands.


This is why there's a thing called "MGTOW Monk" on the rise, the mgtow aspect to protect themselves from women, the monk aspect to protect themselves from seeking alternative sexual options such as homosexuality.

Quite cruel really.
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Re: isit ok to be gay?

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:34 pm

mannikin wrote:
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:When society forces you to be gay and creates a global prison system of being gay, you are blameless and innocent, being gay is not in your hands.


This is why there's a thing called "MGTOW Monk" on the rise, the mgtow aspect to protect themselves from women, the monk aspect to protect themselves from seeking alternative sexual options such as homosexuality.

Quite cruel really.


Never was a big fan of those Monk types, half of them were gay rapists anyway.
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Re: isit ok to be gay?

Postby mannikin » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:37 pm

different types approach the monk route for different reasons, but the monk route regarding it's way of life offers celibacy, mgtow enter it to protect themselves from forced homosexuality, where as genuine homosexuals or pedophiles enter it out of shame, guilt etc
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Re: isit ok to be gay?

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:39 pm

It is a case of the healthy forcing themselves to be sick.

Reason being is, violence is shamed in society, when a man cannot slap a woman when she is being cruel, cruelty runs rampant. This is why I hate pacifism, because it does nothing to stop cruelty.
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Re: isit ok to be gay?

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:40 pm

So when a man is not allowed to be violent, when the odds are hopeless and against him, he turns to monkery, masochism, and pacifism to cope with his defeat against the impossible army.
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Re: isit ok to be gay?

Postby mannikin » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:48 pm

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:It is a case of the healthy forcing themselves to be sick.




Monkery, pacifism etc can act as a buffer to prevent sickness, such as insanity, or even suicide.. a coping defense against an environmental circumstance. Although, i agree, it is a step down from being healthy..it's more or less oppression through self-repression .
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Re: isit ok to be gay?

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:50 pm

mannikin wrote:
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:It is a case of the healthy forcing themselves to be sick.




Monkery, pacifism etc can act as a buffer to prevent sickness, such as insanity, or even suicide.. a coping defense against an environmental circumstance. Although, i agree, it is a step down from being healthy..it's more or less oppression through self-repression .


It is really a sickness. What's stopping someone from stealing a boat and going to Thailand and curing their sexual frustration? Humans are so castrated to the point where they don't even try, they just suicide like a bunch of lemmings. They have no fight left in them anymore, next will be automated cars shoved down our throats, and that will be the end because it will be total civil war at that point.
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Re: isit ok to be gay?

Postby mannikin » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:00 pm

Why would somebody have to steal a boat to go to Thailand..why not just take a plane.. as it goes, some mgtow do, in fact, go there for the lady boys..i guess it works for them, a last resort on the last resort...
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