Trump never said what you have been told he said. In fact, he never even meant it, or anything close to it. Let me break it down for you:
“The thing that amazes me is the depth of his trash talking with Latinos, saying all Mexicans are rapists and going after Latino immigrants,” Tim Kaine
This line was repeated ad nauseum for a year and a half, until the American people put an end to it by electing Trump despite these endless attempts at slandering his character. Do you want to know what Trump really said?
“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime, their rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”
Let me translate since his word choice wasn’t ideal: “The people coming from Mexico to the US are disproportionately made up of criminals, such as rapists or drug dealers.”
^ that is what he meant. But let’s just look at what he said, since politically correct liberals only care about what someone means when they or their buddy says something, and instead they always get hyper-technical about every little word when it is someone else whom their pseudo-religion of leftist zombie fascism has told them to hate.
Did Trump make any statements about “Mexicans”? Did he say ANYTHING about Mexicans as a whole group, as a people, as a nation, at all? No.
Did he, much more so, say anything about “all Mexicans”, as the DFL claimed? Nope.
That’s 0/2 on the Clinton Kaine train.
You don’t even need to look into what Trump meant to discredit the lies that were spread about him for a year and a half, just look at his own words. And hell, yes you should also look at what he meant of course. Under no reasonable definition of sanity can what he said be construed as “Trump called all Mexicans rapists.” It’s the difference between saying “John gave me a shitty record, it always skips when I play it” and “all records are shitty and skip”. Even the dumbest among you out there are able to parse that.
So what motivates the depraved, pathologically lying mind-death that liberals who repeated these claims represent when they utter them? Well for most good liberal fascists they are only following orders, and never bothered to actually look at what Trump REALLY said, much less take the time to think about what he might have meant, much less wonder if what he meant might actually have a basis in reality. So the masses of liberal drone-zombies with preprogrammed personalities who were just following orders when they got on Facebook and laughed gleefully while defacating all over Trump can at least be forgiven for only being too dishonest to care for truth. A greivous crime, sure, but an understandable one. So what about the ones at the top of the campaign and in the media whose job it is to fact check and who know their words and news stories will get circulated and repeated by millions of people? What is their excuse?
(I sure hope that was you and not a mod editing for civility.)
I’m not gonna go fact check to see if this quote us right, just gonna presume you presented it correctly.
That can be construed disproportionately as you said, and I took it as such, or rightfully as Illegal Mexican = Rapist, in which all can be presumed, except for the addendum clarifier, “and some are good people”.
It could be reasonably presumed he meant most Mexicans are rapists, save a possible group.
What is that, 51% bad to 49% hypothetically good?
Good and Bad is metricical, it has scale, it isn’t like Holy or Evil that can be mapped to effects of personality or terrain. We’re presented a scale, and it could be honestly interpreted as saying at least 51% are rapists and/or drug smugglers. Now, I tend to think more refined, differently then most. I’m not living in a delusional world beyond good and evil, I combine both metrics and contrasts as a logical diagnostic to predict in terms of logistics and constitutional, then legal constraints what he actually could do, and so came to the conclusion that contextually, he wasn’t gonna mass deport (he can’t legally, think it’s like, 70,000 a year he can deport to Mexico proper) but was willing in his mind to see some could stay, he just hasn’t fully fleshed that out yet, and so by default most could and would stay. He could significantly drain the population here of the worst illegals, and then prevent them from reentry via the wall.
But this took a good bit of pragmatic rationality on my hand. I got it instantly because that’s the mode I’m always in.
Many types, they aren’t thinkers. A bad word literally is disruptive to their thought process, a ugly restaurant makes them lose their appetite and cringe, a ugly person is a bad person. They lock their doors when a pedestrian walks across the street at a red light, keep to the middle of the wall, display their inherited china set, write books on liberalism and wears cardigans, focus on linguistics. You know, real assholes. I’ve fine tuned my writing style and presentation over the years to scare them off, even if in a lot of ways I’m not fully like that. I just dislike them that much.
Truth and lies is a purely abstract idea to them. Morality doesn’t exist. It’s a game to them, one that can be played with language games, akin to the lever rats have to pull to get rewards. They want that pleasurable return, and so do others like them, foolish enough to listen to them.
So someone like me looks for actual threats. I don’t necessarily provoke them, I just want to he aware of them… the more I know about the things that can kill and wound me, the more I can release my obsessive compulsive traits on the problem, analyzing every variation. I’m a natural coward, and that cowardness keeps me alert and steadfast in my observance, and I’m constantly trying to figure out their strengths to my weaknesses in case it comes to blows. Doesn’t mean I want to, but if I do, I prounch fast and unexpected. Why? I’m a coward, honorable fights aren’t my thing, even though my body build would suggest otherwise. I like being alive.
These thinkers are different. See no evil, hear no evil, say no evil. It’s a communal expectation, they think if they can control and exorcise what doesn’t belong- the bad things, then problems go away. It’s our beliefs that makes the problems, and strength through communal unity, particularly through councils or bureaucracy, in a common effort, will work. Positive mantras matter, negative assholes are the devil.
Largely delusional, but that’s just a side effect of how the brain is set up. Nobody is unified completely consciously in the brain, you always have unconscious aspects that others are fully conscious and active in far more often than you are. It isn’t a scale of intelligence, just different intelligences.
In the US, our political parties build political coalitions, not as obvious as in a parliamentary government, but it happens. We saw the Republicans shake off the more economically conservative, almost Austrian Economics group of thinkers and swing more for economic protectionalism. People falsely read into this that evangelists or Christians lost, so have capitalists, etc… not true at all, they are still heavy hitters and part of the winning coalition, including representation on trumps cabinet, not to mention strong in Congress.
How strong was this realignment of the Republicans to shift the overall mindset of the party? I’m talking the personality mean, how people who specialize in one part of the brain decide to vote over another? Seems to be fairly strong, we have indeed seen a shift. A lot of economically conservative Republicans are hugging the Democrats now, while a lot of evangelicals are seeing they are unexpectedly compatible with this new arrangement.
What hasn’t shifted is rhetorical practices on the left. They didn’t have the equivalent of the dark ages under Obama, incredibly outraged and defeated, powerless to positively change the situation. People went looking for new ideas, new ways to approach things. Radio, internet, and TV aligned in ways for the right in ways the left couldn’t replicate at all. They got their voice back by going back to the basics of rhetoric.
Left has not adapted at all, and this current of xenophobic fear of dangerous ideas, a danger in and of themselves, has slowly conquered. It’s a aspect of mind that trusts elites, and approves of indoctrinating mantras substituted for dialogue.
Trump adopted aspects of this in his easy speech, where he will drum catch phrases at a 4th grader level, but still talk… a lot, too damn much actually.
I’ve seen some absurdities, including fears trump’s tweets will cause a nuclear war. Highly unlikely, given the states with nuclear weapons- China or Russia, aren’t of this isolated US Liberal mindset… their propaganda gas considerably more finesse. North Korea might, if it can ever put a nuke on a ICBM, fly it, and not have it fall apart or get shot down, but even then, extremely doubtful. They are the most media illiterate population on the planetbin terms of critical thinking, because they are literally forced by law to keep state radio on 24/7 in their homes, playing nonstop. Completely brainwashed in a way UC Davis never could hope to pull off. You gotta start young to pull off that sort of mindfuck, and even then, I think many have still a high sense of discernment.
I think we will see within one year Democrats running for office for 2018, a few will snap and say no more to this sort of coverage and thinking, and will strongly denounce it, saying they are a very different kind of thinker, different approach. The further impetus will be that Democrats are heavily favored to lose in 2018, so a presidential candidate will emerge out if that bucking all ideological alignment to words= the actual bad, and will take a more pragmatic approach. They gotta if they want those disaffected koch brothers styled Republicans who dislike Trump to bankroll them.
Trump is constantly soliciting for money. My email junk box is full of requests to by overpriced gear that I will never ever buy. Democrats don’t have a fundraising advantage over the net anymore. They gotta realign their arguments for the new monied crowd, their old elites are gonna be increasingly snuffed out by Trump, through fiscal reforms. Trump knows every damn loophole for taxes, he will close a damn good many that favors the left elites more than the right, while ripping up regulations that hurt his constituents. EPA hurts not just factories, but farmers. It’s was a liberal inspired tax punishment on conservatives, you can bet that’s all gone, no talk of carbon taxes, but something dear to the liberal economic upper crust will be heavily taxed and regulated to strangle them in turn. Just the way it is.
The media likes to sensationalize things to get ratings.
The DNC likes to sensationalize comments that make Republicans look bad. (And vice versa, of course).
Much of the media is functionally a branch of the DNC.
So stuff like this makes sense. Yes, they will happily lie to you, and of course it didn’t begin with Trump. Some people still pretend Romney’s ‘binders full of women’ comment meant something bad.