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Re: Kanye 2024

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:15 pm

Turd Ferguson wrote:I don't care about the racial situation, I'm classic old school, only care about competent statecraft. We have a few thousand years getting guys, especially heirs, ready for leadership.

And it isn't music I'm worried about, but your focus on dionysian artistry. It doesn't have the evolutionary response of a exciting overman, and people worship isn't a new concept derived from the internet. That's always been around in every era. This isn't the dawning of some retarded Age of Aquarius.

I dont know what youre talking about here.

I am talking about Wests capacity to build an empire from the ground up. Have been talking about that here. No expression about Dionysos was made. Kanye certainly is not Dionysian. He's Apollonian.

He us gonna have to go through some old school leadership trials, beyond his experience in direction his musical set ups. He has a particularly uphill battle to expand his skill set, Rome tried to use Seneca to matute Nero in his thought,and it failed in the end. Kanye can come ask me or anyone who specializes in this area for books to study up on, suggested activities to expand his administrative capacity, I will give that info out yo anyone earnestly desiring to become a national leader.just.... let's say a musician like Tupac would if been a wiser bet over Kanye, because Tupac was a reader in the area of Statecraft, he had at least a natural interest. It be a lot easier to get a guy like him aware of the classics, and more modern ideas, and I think he would seek most of it out on his own.

Well yes, he is going to have to go through trials. And he has been going through one very recently. I said: if he overcomes this, he'll run. Eh, voila.

And I don't like looking at Kim because she isn't a real woman in appearance. She may have a functioning uterus, qualifying her as a real woman, but nobody looks like Kim naturally. I don't recommend society adopting deeply unrealistic sex idols, that are only achievable through multiple surgeries. The instinct of attraction should be based on what can be found realistically by males in mates, if Mongolian women suddenly became a fad because of a Mongolian supermodel, then wealthier men who can get such women should get them, bring them back, breed with them, let those genes trickle down. We are rarely attracted to thevweak, useless, and the ugly. Sexual attraction and love, as far as real relations, shouldn't be undermined. Kim makes a absolute mockery of the process, and women are dumb enough to fall for it, and idiots like Smears want it. What do you think our offspring will look like in 12-30 generations from now if we entered into a technological dark ages and couldn't make people look like that anymore? A bunch of stupid filing potato people who were selected for their ability to be surgically modified. That's not gonna hunt deer, put food on the table. Societies rise, but be pragmatic in knowing inevitably all must fall. You plan for that as a philosopher.

Smears is into thin girls, Im deeply into thick ones. Kardashian is a bit much, as I said, but I like her a lot, her personality is pleasing, soft, classic.
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Re: Kanye 2024

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:24 pm

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12 ... d-new-low/

Apparently Putin is God.

Former UKIP leader Nigel Farage has blasted remain-supporters for blaming their woes on “hate figure” Vladimir Putin, who it has been recently suggested influenced the British referendum on leaving the European Union.

The accusation was levelled in the House of Commons this week by Exeter Labour MP Ben Bradshaw who said although he had no evidence to back up his claims, felt Russian hackers “probably” swayed the Brexit vote.


I dont know what they think they are doing, but no one has given Putin more power and reasons to smile and chuckle to himself than those idiots that try to pin every major world event on his will.
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Re: Kanye 2024

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:38 pm

Obama Presidency A Massive Failure

"-US public (national) debt is increased by 7 trillion dollars

-People are more divided than ever (politically, racially)

-Most reduction in unemployment has been from people leaving the workforce

-There is still a housing bubble that has also partly moved into the rental market, squeezing people with severely high cost of rent (around 50% higher, with an increase of 4.6% on average just last year alone)

-There is a dangerous stock market bubble right now

-Cost of university tuition is up 2x

-Cost of health insurance is up 2x

-Warrantless spying on Americans by the NSA has become normalized

-Illegal drone murder oversees has expanded and become normalized

-Most people have a lower quality of life

-Suicide rates are increased

-US foreign policy and leadership abroad is almost non-existent now

-The DFL's only serious candidate with any real support, Sanders, was ridiculed and muscled out of the presidential primary, followed by the most embarrassing defeat of their chosen and highly pathetic, unpopular candidate whom Obama supported

-Real inflation is around 4.5x higher than officially reported numbers"
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Re: Kanye 2024

Postby A Shieldmaiden » Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:12 pm

TF wrote:
Doesn't explain why in Indian Astrology I get a different reading, despite the "science" being just as mathematically solid.


You forgot to include the Chinese Zodiac... you know, where everyone born in the same 365 days has the same personality.

According to this you, Turd, below in the quotes, would be the one highlighted as an ISTJ.


As I am Scorpio, I would have to agree with mine being an INTJ. :mrgreen: I am rather glad I had this discussion.

My conclusion.

It is all bullshit, Myer Briggs and astrology.


At the core, the 12 signs (let's leave Ophiuchus out of this, please) are defined by two basic traits: element and modality - the first category consisting of fire, earth, air, and water - the second of cardinal (initiating), fixed (arguably correlated with judging), and mutable (arguably correlated with perceiving). There is also a third less important and less recognized category based on the order of the signs; the first four elements are concerned with the "personal" (basically like a self-preservational enneagram subtype), the second four with the social world (so) and the final four with the "universal" (sx?). This also seems to have some correlations with the id, ego, and superego, respectively. But of course these generalized correlations do not often hold up, as the element is probably the single most defining factor in terms of overall temperament of each sign (for example, as an air sign, aquarius is most certainly perceiving just like the other air signs despite being of a fixed modality, while Scorpio is such a sx first it's not even funny).

Aries: ESTP, or Se/Te (ESFP in dom/tert loop) 8w7 8-7-3 SLuEn Choleric/Sanguine Basic "Type A" Personality. Prone to Antisocial and Sadistic Personality Disorders (and possibly narcissistic to a lesser extent). In Beebe's archetypes of the functions, Aries is obviously the dominant/hero (or opposing), and in Freudian theory, "The id"

Taurus: ISxx (Si/Se, more Percieving but also more of an SJ/Guardian) 9w8 with some 6 qualities. Gut Triad, and the definition of the self-preservational instinctual variant. RCueN Phlegmatic? Basic "Type B" Personality and is essentially the manifestation of sensing in JCF terms. The Parent/supporting/auxiliary or the opposing roles in Beebe's function theory. Also id-like.

Gemini: ENTP, or Ne/Fe loop. Probably the most extroverted of all signs. Pure 7. ScUEI Pure Sanguine. Prone to Histrionic, Borderline, and Narcissistic Personality Disorders. The puella/child/tertiary and the deceiving/trickster in Beebe's function archetypes. ego-id.

Cancer: ISFJ. 6-2-4 sp/so 6-4-9 PIS RLOAN Pure Supine. Emphasis on Si and Feeling functions in general. The essence of the self-preservational 6 and the HSP. Prone to OCD, OCPD, and Avoidant, Depressive, Passive-Aggressive, Paranoid, and Dependent Personality Disorders. Parent/auxiliary/supporting role in Beebe's function archetypes. ego.

Leo: ENxJ 8w7 or 3 with either wing. 3 fits best. Emphasis on Je (with Ni supporting). 3w(4/2)-8w7-7w8 8-7-3 SIP SxoEi Choleric/Sanguine. Prone to Histrionic and Narcissistic Personality Disorders. Dominant/Hero role or Opposing role in Beebe's function archetypes. "The EGO"

Virgo: ISTJ, or ISFJ in dom/tert function loop of Si/Ti. Emphasis on Si + T. 5w6, 6w5, or 1w9. 1w9-5w6-2w1 and 5-1-9 PIS in Magic's system. RCOAN Melancholic. Very prone to both OCD and OCPD, and also prone to Paranoid and a bit of passive-aggressive personality disorders. The senex/witch/critical parent in Beebe's function archetypes. ego-superego.

Libra: EsFx (more of a perceiver, but definitely Fe dominant.) The perfect example of a 2w3 so. 2-7-9 SIP ScuAn Sanguine/Supine. Prone to Dependent, Passive-Aggressive, Narcissistic, and Histrionic Personality Disorders. The auxiliary/parent in Beebe's function archetypes. Like Pisces, because they "merge" or "complement" so well with others, they have a danger of losing their own identity in pleasing others. ego.

Scorpio: INTJ, some INFJs (Ni dominant, with strong Fi, Te, and Se). 4w5, maybe some 8w9s, SX/so 8-4-…1? RCoEI Melancholic/Choleric. Prone to several personality disorders, most notably Schizoid, Sadistic, Paranoid, and Antisocial. The Devilish/Demon role in Beebe's function archetypes (or the inferior/animus/anima/aspirational for the conscious functions). Scorpio is essentially a combination of a 4 and an 8. Ego-id.

Sagittarius: EsTP, with emphasis on ExxP/Pe dom. Pure 7. SCUaI Doesn't seem to be prone to any personality disorders. Pure Sanguine. Puella/Tertiary/Child or Deceiver/Trickster in Beebe's function archetypes. Superego-id.

Capricorn: ISTJ emphasis on Te. 3-1-5 so/sp or sp/so SPI RCOxN Melancholic/Choleric. Prone to Anti-social and Schizoid Personality Disorders. Senex/Witch/Critical Parent role in Beebe's function archetypes. The workaholic of the zodiac. ego.

Aquarius: ENTP, mix of 7 and 5. Emphasis on intuition, especially Ne. 5w4 or 7w6-9w1-4w5 social dominant 7-1-9 SIP SCUAI Sanguine/Phlegmatic. Prone to OCPD, Paranoid Personality Disorder and Schizotypal Personality Disorder. The Auxiliary/Parent role in Beebe's function archetypes. Superego.

Pisces: INFP (xNFP to the max, ENFP is the only other type that remotely fits). 9-4-2 sx/so ISP RxUAI Supine/Sanguine/Phlegmatic mix
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Re: Kanye 2024

Postby The Golden Turd » Sat Dec 17, 2016 12:34 am

The farthest indepth Ive studied the Chinese System is looking at the paper mat beneath my meal at the chinese restaurant, back when they still bothered with printing that sort of stuff on them.

And damn you Fixed Cross for comparing me to Sauwelios, lowest of the low. Your on my for list now.
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Re: Kanye 2024

Postby Fixed Cross » Sat Dec 17, 2016 2:56 am

Im glad I managed to offend you. Though I certainly did not mean to compare you to Sauwelios, I welcome your suffering. 4 of these people I consider friends.

Life makes sense.

Oh wait, he's not even reading this.

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3:20 p.m.

President Barack Obama says he regrets not being able to transfer his own political success into Democratic races across the country.

The president is acknowledging the failures of his party — and himself — to build up a broad base of support during his tenure. He says the party must do a better job of reaching out to all voters, even in states and counties they are unlikely to win.

Obama says: “That’s something I would have liked to have done more of but it’s kind of hard to do when you’re dealing with a whole bunch of issues here in the White House.”


http://www.breitbart.com/news/the-lates ... on-russia/



he is balancing on the edge of remaining a legitimate and therewith very cool presidential figure, and falling into 'illerees abyss.

point being i genuinely like what this black president adds to the US Presidents mannerisms portfolio. It's more important than philosophers will tend to give it credit for. It's usually what gets people elected, and also what gets diplomatic doors open.

West is a very congenial, friendly figure who simply wont bow down to stupid norms, is thence hated, reviled, slandered, and gets thence angry, and thence loses his shit sometimes, and is then wholewordlily laughed at by the silliest, saddest morons that the earth involuntarily spawned.
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Re: Kanye 2024

Postby Fixed Cross » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:54 pm

On Obama:

"But I guess if you're a black president you can get the Nobel peace prize for not actually doing anything at all, and everyone will tell you how great you are and how successful and historic your presidency is even though it isn't great or historic in any way whatsoever.

I honestly feel bad for the guy."




On Obamanomics:

"Like a good liberal he's been told how great and wonderful he is, even though he hasn't done anything of the sort. What is the Obama economy now? 11% unemployment, if you don't count part time work then it's 26%. No wonder when I applied for a job recently they told me over 200 people applied for it. One job, not even a super great one, just an average job for someone with a 4 year degree and requiring over 2 years of experience, had over 200 applications. In the meantime real inflation is 4 times the official reported number, which means food is almost twice as expensive now than it was 8 years ago (I remember 8 years ago, and it's true). My health insurance costs me the equivalent of two car payments every month, my student loans are even more expensive, and since he "saved" the housing crisis that bubble never burst and now my rent is 2.5 times more expensive than it was 8 years ago.

Yep. Welcome to Obamanomics."



On Russia:

"Looks like the reports of Russian hacking regarding the Podesta emails are entirely fabricated. At least this seems likely given that I've seen no evidence offered, only vague statements about being "confident" it was Russia. But according to a group of veteran intelligence people, "VIPS", the NSA should be producing clear proof of the trace route of the hack, which hasn't been done. Another source claims that the Podesta emails were leaked from inside the DFL, by an unknown insider informant; Assange and Wikileaks also says that Russia probably didn't hack the emails and they seem to have been leaked internally.

So... more US/NATO games to build up war with Russia? They're also using this against Trump, or rather trying to. Not many people give a shit about the major news networks in the US anymore and I don't think most of us trust these reports of Russian hacking, it is clear who stands to gain from it.

My own estimation: Obama/DFL and NATO are trying to create a military situation with Russia that they can use to claim imminent danger of nuclear war and use that danger as a pretext for "suspending" the election of Trump, under emergency powers that already exist having been created by executive order or provisions such as those in the Patriot Act. These provisions already exist, they can suspend the Constitution if they want to. Of course Putin just needs to play it cool, like he's been doing. I'm sure he knows what's going on.

With this fake hacking story I wouldn't be surprised to also see a false flag attack in the next few weeks, something they can blame on Russia or possibly on terrorism. First they will try to stop Trump at the electoral vote on the 19th, if that fails then they have 30 days to create an incident large enough to invoke emergency procedures and keep Trump out that way. But hopefully this is all just paranoid speculation."

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Re: Khan-ye 2024

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:54 pm

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Re: Kanye 2024

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:00 pm

Because I said nothing about politics its cuz I'm frollicking cause I wont fall asleep up in this colosseum

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Re: Kanye 2024

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:09 pm

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Re: Kanye 2024

Postby Zero_Sum » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:45 pm

Donald Trump needs Kanye West as his new vice president and make '50 Cent' his domestic economic advisor. :P

Next make Snoop Dog his advisor for domestic infrastructure planning.
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Postby Fixed Cross » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:10 pm

No lets make him foreign infrastructure advisor.
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Re: Kanye 2024

Postby Zero_Sum » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:16 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:No lets make him foreign infrastructure advisor.


If you didn't notice I was being sarcastic as I think Donald Trump is garbage.

Just like 2016 I won't be voting in 2020. All the candidates are clowns and that which calls itself voting or democracy is nothing more than a rigged giant con act. It's a completely rigged system.
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Re: Kanye 2024

Postby Fixed Cross » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:26 pm

Seriously, It'd be great to have an advisor for foreign infrastructure.
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Re: Kanye 2024

Postby Zero_Sum » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:28 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:Seriously, It'd be great to have an advisor for foreign infrastructure.


They already have that, I believe they call it the world bank or IMF.
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Postby Fixed Cross » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:29 pm

You know what infrastructure is, right? Im not too sure banks are concerned with that.
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Re: Kanye 2024

Postby Fixed Cross » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:31 pm

On the other hand China had a far reaching contract to redo Pakistans infrastructure, but Pakistan realized in time that this might not be the best of strategic ideas and unfortunately withdrew from the agreement.
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Re: Kanye 2024

Postby Zero_Sum » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:33 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:You know what infrastructure is, right? Im not too sure banks are concerned with that.


Yes, they actually are. It's called financial lending and debt.
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Postby Zero_Sum » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:34 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:On the other hand China had a far reaching contract to redo Pakistans infrastructure, but Pakistan realized in time that this might not be the best of strategic ideas and unfortunately withdrew from the agreement.


China is going to win the trade war against the United States and when they do with the United States empire collapsing the western political sphere will never be the same again.
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Re: Kanye 2024

Postby Fixed Cross » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:39 pm

" will never be the same again."

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Re: Kanye 2024

Postby Fixed Cross » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:40 pm

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Fixed Cross wrote:You know what infrastructure is, right? Im not too sure banks are concerned with that.


Yes, they actually are. It's called financial lending and debt.

Oh how insightful. You mean banks have to do with money?
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Re: Kanye 2024

Postby Zero_Sum » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:45 pm

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Fixed Cross wrote:You know what infrastructure is, right? Im not too sure banks are concerned with that.


Yes, they actually are. It's called financial lending and debt.

Oh how insightful. You mean banks have to do with money?


Don't be butt-hurt, you know what I'm talking about is valid.
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Re: Kanye 2024

Postby Zero_Sum » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:47 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:" will never be the same again."

"No one ever stands in the same river twice" - Heraclitus


Seems trivial to you now until Chinese communism becomes the new major political and economic power worldwide with the dollar as the world's reserve currency replaced in yuan.

The repercussions of such a global transformation would be enormous.
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Postby Fixed Cross » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:49 pm

Dream on Commieboy.
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