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Is the economic system of a nation just a reflection

Postby Peachy Nietzsche » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:15 pm

of that nation's population's shared paradigm? Or is it vice versa?

A classic example of such a phenomenon in action is the transformation Germany underwent after the first world war; the economy of Germany went from essentially broken to a world superpower again in about 15 years. The people of Germany during that time became motivated (although now we of course know that their motives were mislead, and for lack of a better word "evil"), and their motivation alone was enough to pull Germany out of financial ruin.

Now, traditional economics teachings would suggest that a nation's economy shouldn't be able to reverse like that; a broken economy should in theory remain broken until reparations can slowly be made. Yet, Germany completely defied traditional economic theory, and seemingly it was nothing besides the unified motivation of the German people which took themselves out of economic ruin as if it had never happened.

If we look at the great depression of the USA during the 1930s, this again took only about 15 years to come out of. Most scholars would agree that World War II lifted the USA out of the Great Depression (in conjunction with socialist policies put in place by FDR). Again, we see the phenomenon of a unified national paradigm causing an economic boom and completely disregarding previous economic turmoil (although not as suddenly).

How can this happen?

It can only make sense if we view economic systems as being illusionary -- the entire economic system is nothing more than an index of otherwise meaningless values that are finely tuned to the collective mindset of a population. When the population experiences nihilism and has lost faith in progress, then the economy of that population begins a recession; when the population experiences purposefulness and meaningfulness, the economy begins to grow.
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Re: Is the economic system of a nation just a reflection

Postby ScavengingVulture » Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:07 pm

The economy grows with meaningfulness and purposefulness? That is funny.

That begs the question what meaning or purpose is best for the populace as a whole.

Do you or anybody else know?

Actually the economy grows on war since economic growth of all different types of economics requires conquest and aggressive expansion.

Once again the violent primates prove how much civilization is indebted to violence and oppressive subjugation.

Is this the sort of purpose and meaning you had in mind?
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Re: Is the economic system of a nation just a reflection

Postby xhightension » Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:45 pm

Gimme a cause to lead, amerika :^o
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Re: Is the economic system of a nation just a reflection

Postby ScavengingVulture » Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:29 pm

xhightension wrote:Gimme a cause to lead, amerika :^o


Causes are like assholes. Everybody has one.
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Re: Is the economic system of a nation just a reflection

Postby xhightension » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:00 am

ScavengingVulture wrote:
xhightension wrote:Gimme a cause to lead, amerika :^o


Causes are like assholes. Everybody has one.


Yes, but a cause to lead encourages a less shitty one.
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Re: Is the economic system of a nation just a reflection

Postby ScavengingVulture » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:43 pm

xhightension wrote:
ScavengingVulture wrote:
xhightension wrote:Gimme a cause to lead, amerika :^o


Causes are like assholes. Everybody has one.


Yes, but a cause to lead encourages a less shitty one.


Shit is still shit small and large.
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Re: Is the economic system of a nation just a reflection

Postby xhightension » Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:06 am

a cause to lead...is an innovative stance, like a different way to make video games or different style of business.

a cause is ...being a Wal-mart shopping bagger
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Re: Is the economic system of a nation just a reflection

Postby Peachy Nietzsche » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:07 am

ScavengingVulture wrote:The economy grows with meaningfulness and purposefulness? That is funny.

That begs the question what meaning or purpose is best for the populace as a whole.

Do you or anybody else know?

Actually the economy grows on war since economic growth of all different types of economics requires conquest and aggressive expansion.

Once again the violent primates prove how much civilization is indebted to violence and oppressive subjugation.

Is this the sort of purpose and meaning you had in mind?

so why is the united states collapsing after all the wars its started? And there are numerous wars in an antiquity to use as an example where a state began a war it couldn't afford, and collapsed as a result
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Re: Is the economic system of a nation just a reflection

Postby obe » Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:18 am

Because it's betting it's own sovereignty on a central position of control world wide.
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