Menial Slavery In Our Own Time

[Polly]

This is the same sort of shitty victim argument you get from all those people who say "Thass raycisst" if anyone implies that success might just be something you have personal control over.

Its only personal control when it happens to somebody else. When it happens to you it’s called injustice.

Bingo.

Still haven't seen an answer to any of my questions. You'd think they'd be easy to answer given that it's apparently so obvious that slavery these days includes "menial labour". How's about someone has a go at telling me what jobs are slavery and what jobs aren't?

I'm also curious as to where this puts the homeless; are they also slaves, but just slaves that don't work?

[Pandora]

I cannot wait for global economic collapse. The first people to be devoured will be people just like you. Only then will you understand the true meaning of victim and powerlessness.

If the true meaning of victimhood and powerlessness lies in one sitting at a local Starbucks and whining about how unfair one's life is as he sucks on his grande caramel frapuccino, then we are all doomed.



[ I'm sorry Joker, I don't think a single melancholy violin can capture the magnitude of your person's immense suffering. Here, this is more to your scale]:

[uglypeoplefucking]

Polly, I think they just like being melodramatic. If someone's not living in the same quality as some other people, they have to be a slave.

like i said, a STRAWMAN. who said this?

It is, like you said, much like the whole "That's Racist!" meme -- it's just an over-dramatic leftist response to things so they can feel righteous and shit. It's an appeal to emotion, calling this "slavery" and that "racism". That's what the left is best at -- using overly strong language to appeal to peoples' emotions. So, I say let 'em have it, let 'em debase those words until they're meaningless, let them cry wolf time and time again. I'm not listening to their cries, and soon enough no one will.

right, because racism is a thing of the past - anyone who uses the term is being melodramatic.

[uglypeoplefucking]

ignore, deny, enjoy your dinner

[Polly]

Sure, racism is alive and well, it just doesn't take the shape the left would like it to.

[uglypeoplefucking]

no, it only takes the shape YOU would like it to.

and you would know, right? because you have so much personal experience with it, correct?

[uglypeoplefucking]

this shit about "the left" is a strawman too, btw

you guys are getting pretty good at that

[Polly]

How come so many people on ILP think that personal experience is more of a proof than scientific fact? It's astonishing. Anecdote trumps all, apparently.

[uglypeoplefucking]

How come so many people on ILP think that personal experience is more of a proof than scientific fact? It's astonishing. Anecdote trumps all, apparently.

oh, so there are "scientific" facts about what constitutes racism and modern-day slavery now? do enlighten me . . .

[Polly]

No idea about the scientific facts constituting "menial wage slavery" or whatever buzz phrase you are using to term it. I doubt the scientific community would be interested in researching that.

Plenty of stuff out there on racism, though. I bet even you could find some.

[uglypeoplefucking]

no, i want the agreed upon scientific definition of racism in the contemporary world

since you seem to know all about what forms of racism do and do not exist it should be easy for you to invent one - oh wait, i mean recite one.

[Flannel Jesus]

One more try to explain why it's ridiculous to call minimum-wage jobs in the US "slavery":

Since when did people go out of their way to apply to be slaves? In my history lessons on slavery in early US history, I don't recall hearing stories of black people going to their local McSlaveCorp office and handing in their resume. Maybe I was sick that day in history class. Or maybe it's bullshit to compare working a job that you applied for deliberately to people being dragged away from their homes against their will and forced to work.

[MagsJ]

Man cannot live on stats alone...

[Flannel Jesus]

Ah, the riddle-speaker is here. Let us see what bologna we can interpret from her words.

[SIATD v2]

Man cannot live on stats alone...

No, but Right-Wing Woman™ can...

[MagsJ]

Ah, the riddle-speaker is here. Let us see what bologna we can interpret from her words.

...let me decipher it for you: it was in response to the statistical-survey-over-experience debate - I'd say that stats mean nothing if they don't tally up in the field.

[Flannel Jesus]

I have no clue what you're getting at, but I wasn't involved in that discussion and I don't know what they're talking about either

[MagsJ]

I have no clue what you're getting at, but I wasn't involved in that discussion and I don't know what they're talking about either

...so I clarified my point for nothing

Do you think that stats mean anything if they don't reflect society's experiences?

[Flannel Jesus]

Well if it's still not clear I'm not sure you've actually clarified anything.

[MagsJ]

I have no clue what you're getting at, but I wasn't involved in that discussion and I don't know what they're talking about either

...so I clarified my point for nothing

Do you think that stats mean anything if they don't reflect society's experiences?

[FilmSnob]

Do you think that stats mean anything if they don't reflect society's experiences?

How could they not? Don't they do so by definition?

[Flannel Jesus]

@FilmSnob lol, I think that's part of the reason I'm having a hard time understanding what she's talking about. Stats not tallying up in the field? So...you're just talking about incorrect stats? Because other than that...stats ARE tallied in the field, no?

[James L Walker]

no, i want the agreed upon scientific definition of racism in the contemporary world

since you seem to know all about what forms of racism do and do not exist it should be easy for you to invent one - oh wait, i mean recite one.

This thread is not about racism whatever that word even really means.

This thread is about menial wage slavery which affects all races and cultures as it is practically worldwide social phenomena.

[MagsJ]

Perhaps you guys are just a statistic, but I find they never seem to reflect My wants and needs - I had signed up to the UK's biggest survey company recently, and the options they list to choose from never apply to me, so I'm sure that when they are selling these 'stats' to companies they won't be reflective of a large portion of society.

I have worked in politics, and now in advertising, and stats are a part of the input these industries need to create policy/ads, but they are only used as a rough guide and the rest is down to experiences and creative license

[MagsJ]

Infact... filling out those time-consuming surveys bore the hell out of me, and the options to choose from are of the highest order of Mr and Miss Average :yawn: (guess THAT ain't the boredom smiley )