Do you smoke pot?

[brevel_monkey]

When I'm drunk, I'll take tokes of it as its being passed round. But I always regret it - I've never been a smoker and I always wake up with a sore throat after smoking. In general I try and avoid it, mainly for health reasons.

I don't think I've ever rolled my own joint or desired to smoke it when on my own. If I need to get whacked on something, I'm more likely to get drunk or turn to ketamine, which have fewer side effects for me.

I answered in the closest way I could.--I've tried weed--I've even inhaled--then I vomited--profuse, projectile vomiting. Won't try it again--don't need to.

This never happened to me with weed, but once when I was in the sticks in Cambodia, a local made me try their bamboo pipe. It took a couple of unsuccessful tries (they're more complicated than you'd think), but eventually I got a massive hit of tobacco, followed by a tremendous head rush for about two minutes, followed by about 10 minutes of coughing and vomiting.

[FilmSnob]

Lol, ketamine is a wee bit more adverse to your body than a joint. Ley's just say that you are comparing a harmless weed to a cat tranquilizer.

But, most importantly, to each his/her own.



I tried weed two times when I lived here (in Canada) when I was 14-15 with no effect both times. After moving back to Venezuela, I went to Canada for summers and stuff and I always smoked weed with a friend of mine, finally getting high after like the third time. After I moved back here, I have been a bonafide pothead to this very day.

Weed has led me to many adventures. It gave me the confidence to try other, less mild psychedelics like mushrooms, MDMA, EX (yes, it's MDMA, but also speed and whatever the dealer puts in it), eventually LSD and, even more eventually, K (ketamine). On each drug I've had euphorically happy moments as well as suicidally (and what I call beyond-suicidally) crippling ones. It brought out some of the elements of my psychological make-up that had been long kept under control by pharmaceutical (prescribed) drugs.

Today, I don't take a single pill, smoke a lot of weed, get drunk every now and then, and I'm sadder than I've ever felt before. I am also more free and powerful, and I understand what makes me sad and how I can put it on the back-burner until the moment is better to deal with it. I also, having discovered the limits of my power and freedom, can make plans on how to deal with it.

So, if you don't want to take risks with your body or mind, don't do drugs (and that includes weed, though many people are able to smoke casually without using the gateway effect thing). Drugs are dangerous.

If you want to explore the limits of your mind, your freedom, your knowledge and your power, do drugs. Do them in high doses (find out before how much it takes to kill or seriously harm you, and do less than that; also, follow guidelines, like drinking water when on Ex), do them in awkward places and do them when you are afraid they might brake your mind.

Finally, if you already take medications like SSRI's or ADHD medications, why not give psychedelics a chance too? They worked for me.

[brevel_monkey]

Lol, ketamine is a wee bit more adverse to your body than a joint. Ley's just say that you are comparing a harmless weed to a cat tranquilizer.

The whole 'its a horse/cat/elephant (yes I heard that last one once) tranquilizer' think is overstated. Its used on both humans and animals in professional healthcare. And like most such drugs, it has tested as being safe, as long as you don't form a dependency and know your doses. They wouldn't give it to patients if it wasn't. I'm not advocating ketamine abuse, because its dangerous in so far as it would be possible to do a lot of damage if you got addicted. But I'm not addicted, and the amounts I take and the frequency I take them does me no harm. I don't have an addictive personality and I have good self control, so I'm not really worried about addiction.

"ketamine is a wee bit more adverse to your body than a joint"

That's inaccurate. For a start, smoking weed is far from harmless. It contains carcinogenic chemicals that harm your lungs and increase your risk of lung cancer and other respiratory illnesses. More importantly, seeing as we are talking about my body - I have found that the effects of smoking weed hang around with my for several days and unsharpen my mind. Seeing as I need to stay mentally quite sharp for my job (and, I feel, life), for me weed has far more negative effects than ketamine (which seems to completely wash from my system within 24 hours). Statistics, surveys, science can only so far when telling you about your own body. For me, weed is more harmful than ketamine in several ways.

[FilmSnob]

I would like to see some back up for the claims of weed containing carcinogens, for I haver looked and never seen any such study. Weed, in fact, has never been shown to do much of anything.

K, on the othjer hand, well...

And that is just on a biological level. On a psychological level: what is the worst that can happen on weed?

You feel extremely drowsy and the world annoys you a lot.

On ketamine?

You K-hole and lose 100% contact with reality for at least 10 minutes.

You think they wouldn't give patients drugs that could harm them?!"?#$"?!#?!!-?!´´?{}!?

EDIT - In any case, I am a fan of K. You simply have to understand that all drugs are dangerous, some more than others, and the ones that are synthetic chemicals always have more potential, both to take you out of your mind and to harm your body.

[brevel_monkey]

Your wikipedia link of side effects was irrelevant. I don't suffer from any of those side effects. Apart from the dreams, but I enjoy them so whats the problem, and euphoria, which is what I was aiming for in the first place.

Weed makes me dopey for several days. I don't need to see a research paper proving or disproving this. I already know its true. It's evident both to me and people around me.

And that is just on a biological level. On a psychological level: what is the worst that can happen on weed?

You feel extremely drowsy and the world annoys you a lot.

On ketamine?

You K-hole and lose 100% contact with reality for at least 10 minutes.

The effects of having too much of something is not necessarily an indicator of the effects of that thing taken in lesser doses. Water, for example, is fatal if too much is consumed. Vitamin A is essential for well being, but potentially very dangerous in high doses. Cigarettes, on the other hand, can be smoked endlessly all day with no serious short term effects for most people, and yet pose a significant risk to long term health.

[FilmSnob]

I will drop this discussion because it is antithetical to the ethos of pot smoking.

[Gobbo]

The human body is literally hardwired to receive THC—it has endocannabinoid receptors that can only be used to receive THC; it does not have, for example, ketamino receptors. Ketamine just plays around with the other neurochemicals like other synthetics and if you're not careful, Rosiaro Dawson might get aids raped.

That's inaccurate

THC is lower than ketamine on the Lancet's toxicity chart. Obviously pot is less harmful and anyone saying otherwise is probably really enjoys ketamine, but that said, I wish I had some horse tranquilizer.

[FilmSnob]

but that said, I wish I had some horse tranquilizer.

I have a friend who used to say "I will never do PCP; it is the only drug I know about that will make a completely straight person have sex with a guy."

Well, that and being a girl.

[Gobbo]

You realize PCP isn't ketamine right? If so, I'm not sure what you're saying.

[FilmSnob]

You realize PCP isn't ketamine right? If so, I'm not sure what you're saying.

When you said horse tranquilizer, I thought you meant PCP, which is notoriously known as a horse tranquilizer.

[Gobbo]

More than ketamine is known as a horse tranquilizer?

>go to wiki
>ctr. F: horse

No results.


PCP is one of the most....up drugs I can think of. My parents used to be police officers and they used to tell me stories about like 1 malnourished junkie high on angeldust overpowering 2-3 cops with near-endless energy. I've never done it but I always pictured meth mixed with salvia or something.

I'm pretty sure it's a stimulant.

[FilmSnob]

From wiki: "In 1967, it was given the trade name Sernylan and marketed as a veterinary anesthetic, but was again discontinued." That's probably where the horse tranquilizer myth comes from.

K is known as a cat tranquilizer 'round these parts.

[Gobbo]

lol. I've been to Montreal; I never heard it called that. But I heard so much crazy shit that I wouldn't be surprised.

Oh... St. Catherine's St. How I've missed you.

Yeah I'm getting pretty high right now. haha But I daresay that is better than drinking.

[FilmSnob]

Well, nobody really calls it "cat tranquilizer," but if you ask a K fan what K is in Montreal, s/he's likely to tell you that it is a cat tranquilizer.

Have fun, and if you ever come by we should do some drugs.

[Gobbo]

I'm going to trust you, because it seems like you've done just that already. And sure; basically any city I go to I usually see if anyone I know from online is there.

[Calrid]

I would like to see some back up for the claims of weed containing carcinogens, for I haver looked and never seen any such study. Weed, in fact, has never been shown to do much of anything.

K, on the othjer hand, well...

And that is just on a biological level. On a psychological level: what is the worst that can happen on weed?

You feel extremely drowsy and the world annoys you a lot.

On ketamine?

You K-hole and lose 100% contact with reality for at least 10 minutes.

You think they wouldn't give patients drugs that could harm them?!"?#$"?!#?!!-?!´´?{}!?

EDIT - In any case, I am a fan of K. You simply have to understand that all drugs are dangerous, some more than others, and the ones that are synthetic chemicals always have more potential, both to take you out of your mind and to harm your body.

Usually smoked with tobacco in the UK with resin crumbled into the mix, I know that aint technically weed, but that might be where the idea comes from.

That said most anything set on fire and inhaled is carcinogenic generally, in the third world lung cancer is high considering because people use fires to cook with.

[FilmSnob]

That's all well and good, but weed can (and probably usually does) get used without tobacco. In fact, there are many ways of ingesting weed that don't require any smoke at all, like vaporizers or weed butter.

Personally, I put clip (tobacco) in my joints, but you can't call club soda harmful to your liver just because you usually drink it with whisky.

[Calrid]

That's all well and good, but weed can (and probably usually does) get used without tobacco. In fact, there are many ways of ingesting weed that don't require any smoke at all, like vaporizers or weed butter.

Personally, I put clip (tobacco) in my joints, but you can't call club soda harmful to your liver just because you usually drink it with whisky.

Quite just saying. Don't smoke it eat it then.

Burning any plant material and inhaling it is probably carcinogenic if you do it often enough, ash generally is, yes carbonised plant matter is carcinogenic, that was the point. Of course tobacco just happens to have many carcinogens such as nicotine in the mix as well.

[Gobbo]

There are carcinogens in burnt weed; conversely, there are other things in there that block the effect of carcinogens. This has been proven and studied.

[FilmSnob]

Again, I have looked and never found any studies dealing with carcinogens in weed.

As I understand it, there are many scientists that want to do that kind of test, but the government (our friend the statist has a lot to answer for here, too) doesn't allow anybody to buy weed for any reason.

[Calrid]

There are carcinogens in burnt weed; conversely, there are other things in there that block the effect of carcinogens. This has been proven and studied.

So this has never been the case, and we should remain silent on weed until some one does some study yes? So we are neutral on weeds carcinogen effect because we do not have the means to judge it? Is that logical? We might say that generally inhaling burnt plant material will be carcinogenic because it generally is, but until we look at the overall affect of weed on a basis of research we should indeed remain silent. Could be that the anti carcinogen effect cancels out the burnt plant material effect, but we are not privy to such information...

[fuse]

I smoke alcohol. 'appy st. Patrick's eve, yo.

[Calrid]

I smoke alcohol. 'appy st. Patrick's eve, yo.

Have you ever tried inhaling alcohol fumes, say from boiling ethanol. It gives you an extremely quick high, which wears off just as quickly, assuming you are not continuously inhaling it. Some people experienced some minor symptoms of hangover after that.

[brevel_monkey]

Have you ever tried inhaling alcohol fumes, say from boiling ethanol. It gives you an extremely quick high, which wears off just as quickly, assuming you are not continuously inhaling it. Some people experienced some minor symptoms of hangover after that.

?
No, I haven't. Sounds interesting. Rough instructions? Are we talking vodka in a water bath? (I'm assuming that heating alcohol in a raw pan and putting your face over it is quite a poor idea!)

[Calrid]

Have you ever tried inhaling alcohol fumes, say from boiling ethanol. It gives you an extremely quick high, which wears off just as quickly, assuming you are not continuously inhaling it. Some people experienced some minor symptoms of hangover after that.

?
No, I haven't. Sounds interesting. Rough instructions? Are we talking vodka in a water bath? (I'm assuming that heating alcohol in a raw pan and putting your face over it is quite a poor idea!)

In this case we were boiling onions in ethanol in order to view the cells under a microscope. So just use a bunsen flame on a lower heat to avoid setting the ethanol alight. Personally I recommend imbibing it for a more sustained effect but meh.