Communism prevails!!

I consider myself a

Capitalism=greed
Faccism=racist
socialism=an insult to communism
communism=sense
how many communists are out there??

Come on. This is the 21st century. Communism is dead, get over it.

Socialist here.

Having come from the Soviet Union and my parents telling me enough about their expriences of communism to never have to make that mistake.

Communists are fools with good intentions.

When the Berlin wall fell there was a sign that said “Sorry guys it was just an Idea -Karl Marx”

Its the balance of capitalism and socialism that is ideal. The balance of Liberalism and conservatism.

The middle way is truly best.

Socialism is the middle way between capitalism and communism.

Also, how can you be a full fledged capitalist if you’re looking for socialist ideals as well?

Good point Raf, you are right I am not.

none of the above… so long as society is based around economics it will always lead to the same problems

communism is the highst form of socialism. in my opinion, communism has never happened. dialectical materialism blahblahbla, after periods of struggle and social evolution.
capitalism is not greed so much as it is exploitation… :\

Precisely and communism takes u firther away from economics as it were and closer to … i don’t know… closer to what just seems right, i gues. Although everyone has pretty warped impressions of what is right.

No it’s not. I’m still here. And so is Castro

I would love to meet your parents. But i can’t argue with that. If they experienced it first hand, then who the hell am i to judge. I just think, they lived under the rule of people who abused communsism. When the Berlin wall fell it was just a sign, “sorry Stalin, you couldn’t subjugate us forever!” although stalin wasn’t all bad (i know thats a controversial belief) he was just quite demented. A balance… hmm… somehow i think greed would eventually prevail if there was even an ounce of capitalist influence.

this is such a moronic thread that i haven’t commented. but this article explains the truth behind communisim as one of the most bloodiest regimes known to man:
http://www.reason.com/0404/cr.gg.fools.shtml

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castro isn’t ruling as a communist. he’s ruling as a dictator.
http://slate.msn.com//?id=2098860&

finally, my grandparents came from a ‘communist’ country…and escaped when the government started killing my relatives. now, if you think that public hangings ‘seems right’ under a system that does so if you do not vote in the popular party, then you have a demented view of government. the fact of the matter here is that this thread, this statement, this opinion that you hold is possible to only be stated outside of a ‘communist’ country. nothing approaching a similar amount of freedom can be granted to those under a ‘communist’ rule.

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v26/n09/fitz03_.html

He’s ruling as a communist dictator.

cia.gov/cia/publications/fac … .html#Econ

Is it wrong for man to desire to have more for himself? I believe only when he takes away from another it is. But an employer who produces jobs for people and takes a bigger part of the pie which his company brings in is not being greedy but producing something for someone who doesn’t have something; the job and the product. People should be paid based upon the value they bring to A. other people, B. the Society.

Is Bills Gates’s wealth unreasonable? Depends on how valuable you think windows is and always remember what he has is chump change compared to what the company earns and the amount of value it brings to everyone even you and me.

I believe because of the rate of technology and human innovation that our resourses are unlimited as is our wealth.

hmmm…you know, something about iraq and certain weapons of mass destruction lead me to believe that perhaps information from the CIA is not all that reliable.

report from the un human rights watch sums up nicely why he’s a dictator, although i thought one would have got that from my other article i linked, but notice that neither castro nor the UN is trying to pretend that what he’s got is a communist state. we are letting him say he’s got a socialist thing going on. yes, i always thought mass imprisonment of political opponents meant a socialist system. speaking of iraq, seems like america’s brought socialism to the middle east. as well as crazy chicks who keep giving the thumbs up, seriosuly, what is her problem!!!???

http://hrw.org/wr2k3/americas5.html

here’s another site, but it seems to be grossly in denial about the whole thing altogether:

http://www.worldinformation.com/World/camerica/Cuba/profile.asp?p=2&country=053.

well, the working class that supports castro is represented…

By having something, isn’t that man that has it taking it away from everyone else? By allowing a man to own property, no other man can own that property. Capitalism is a win/lose system where everytime some one wins, gets a job/promotion, wins a scholarship, ect., they are taking that away from someone else who tried to get it. We assume that the person who got the job or whatever is in question got it because they earned it, that they deserve it more than anyone else who applyed, but the only reason that the winner was able to win was because his family had the money to send him to a good school, that he didn’t have to work to support his family and could focus on his studies, that he didn’t have to care for his dying mother who didn’t have health insurance.

Capitalism is a system where a person is rewarded because of what they have, property yeilds capital, capital can be used to obtain property. The cap between rich and poor can only become larger.

The goal economy would be one where each man gives what he is able and is provided all he needs. Humanity is not ready for this, yet.
Some advocate an economy where each man recives equivilant to what he produces. I think this is a mistake, but it’s close. Before “from each according to ability to each according to need” there needs to be a stage of “to each according to effort” where a man is awarded equal to the amount of effort he puts out and not how much product he actually produces. For example, a bachelor could work 10 hour days 7 days a week and be extremely productive; but a man with a wife and children could not do this, is he to be punish because he fullfills his duty to his work and his family? Things like this need to be taken into account, not just how much he produces or how many people he can step on (in the case of Capitalism.

Not if resourses are unlimited.

[finally, my grandparents came from a ‘communist’ country…and escaped when the government started killing my relatives. now, if you think that public hangings ‘seems right’ under a system that does so if you do not vote in the popular party, then you have a demented view of government. the fact of the matter here is that this thread, this statement, this opinion that you hold is possible to only be stated outside of a ‘communist’ country. nothing approaching a similar amount of freedom can be granted to those under a ‘communist’ rule.

Ok mate fair enough. i’m sorry about your grand parents and your relatives. They were victim to sick minds who took advantage of the system so that they could establish dictatorship. communism doesn’t equal USSR and USSR does not equal communism. unfortunately the Ussr and the purges and the subjugation has all become associated with probably one of the most moral and selfless and giving systems. Read about Marxism and u’ll understand why i have my “demented” view. people are so onetrack minded. they refuse to see beyond STALIN and all those other numbnuts.
AND BY THE WAY, WHETHER OR NOT CASTRO IS RULING AS A DICTATOR IS BESIDES THE POINT. I JUST MENTIONED HIM TO PROVE THAT COMMUNISM ISN’T DEAD. dictator or not, he’s still alive.
and he actually saved Cuba from Batista’s dictatorship. read your history people. when the americans attempted to “liberate” Cubans from rule in 1961 at the Bay of Pigs not a single Cuban joined the American-backed Cuban exiles against him. Secondly, before Castro people were exploited, poor, and the American-backed (therefore capitalist-backed) dicatator Batista ran a corrupt regime. Castro liberated Cuba. I won’t say Castro has been a wonderful leader either. I mean he’s also misinterpreted the concepts of communism and used it to secure himself, in ways that are hardly comendable. However, i just thought i’d come to the poor guy’s defence. He isn’t all bad and he DOES have his supporters. He DID liberate Cuba, and he has managed to keep a system that everyone (unfortunately) has lost faith in.
Communsim doesn’t suppress your rights, historical leaders did.

i agree lanky wanky. thanx for that commeny. t’was wonderful. is KSC what i think it is??

1. oh, i’m sure castro has his supports. and the great thing is, those supporters in cuba get to live. the opponents living in cuba don’t. hey mate, you know what’s cool about living in a democracy/liberal society? that both a supporter AND an opponent to Castro (and even their own ruler) gets to live. it’s this slight detail, this minor glitch that all communists seem to overlook, that always gets me.

2. my grandparents and relatives aren’t from a soviet country. but were from a country that thought it was communist.

3. i read marx. and engles. and rousseau, who actually started the whole thing. with marx, though, it’s important to remember, that he was a student of capitalism, not communisim. his observations pertain to capitalistic markets…he would have had dramatically different things to say if he was commenting on communist regimes.