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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:19 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Even, as you know, my game being just one single convoluted structure. But it is not a testament to structure, it is a testament to building. I am proud of the thing I built. That takes something. I read something in the game. I will tire of it some day. But as of now, I feel a little bit like the man in Gay Science who has a thought.

I am also relatively convinced, not having seen more than 1 in 1000 examples of people using, not the same, but a similar structure, that it is in fact original.

Same structure throughout black and white?

Then, of course, you have Magnus. I watched one of his tournaments on lichess recently, and we were all flaberggasted at the absolute disdain for opening he displayd while demolishing top-10 world champions.

Hey, it is an honor to be insulted by such a man. Have you ever watched one? It is a privilege, no other word. Like watching Trump.

Haha, yes I was just rewatching some banter blitz games last night, an episode where he kind of lost it, very weird situation with another GM standing in for him as Magnus got out of the shower. I seemed like some form of sex had been going on in advance, maybe girls left, maybe it was the two of them, and it didn't help his game. Of course only because he insisted on using completely off the wall openings.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:23 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:He does prove your self-valuing point though. There can be no genealogy in the chaos he creates. But then, from the chaos, suddenly a maddening self-valuing exists, on-coming like a freight-train, often from ridiculous cliffs. Omg.

Thats frankly amazing.
Seriously, really like this distinction genealogy/selfvaluing. The appearance of a maddening self-valuing from a struggle of/for genealogies is extremely telling of what self-valuing really is and requires, and how rare it is to see a pure one.
Great.

I'm not saying I'm more right. If I look, I have probably been more astonished by self-valuings than genealogies. That is greatness displaying itself.

Yes, great.

But who is the greedier, Jupiter or Saturn?

Wut lol thats a hard one.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:24 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:But then... Can there be a more discrete self-valuing than Mike Tyson?

He was born on one out of two days in the 60s of an exact Pluto-Uranus conjunction. I mean perfectly exact. The only listed person on astrotheme born during an exact conjunction.
Supremely discreet.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:34 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:It's like he has visions man, it's...

I saw one once, I can't even describe it. Holy Moley.

He was somewhere dee

Aw, I can't do it. Jesus Christ. None of us watching will ever forget it.

Id like to see this tournament now.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:37 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Like look. I haven't seen so many Fisher games. But when he does his unexpected crazy, you can always trace it back. Oh, THIS was what was happening. And that is the joy. But with Carlsen, You would have to trace back the entire history of chess. There is no THIS is what was happening. Just... Just THIS is what is happening. Barely.

Another powerful description of self-valuing trumping genealogy.
And thereby making all genealogies into the genealogy of that one event which can not be reduced.
Irreducibles not as basic elements but supreme coherences, not an imperishable hydrogen atom but a chalice of gold beset with ruby which brings immortality.
Or benefic tyranny, Napoleon needed to happen to secure the basic integrity of France against the struggle of is genealogies.
Nap, from the rugged fringes of the nation - his existence could not be predicted beforehand.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:45 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Like a tickle. Is a tickle ever truly there?

And BAM.

The noose is alredy tight and you didn't even see it pulled over your head. Except it wasn't Magnus pulling it. It was the entire history of Chess.

Yeah, he just lures them into that history, into some dark crevice of it that had never seen the light and only existed in a 8th degree derivative, somewhere lurking for reality.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:47 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Mark Twain once said there are two types of intelligence. The type that discourages, makes you feel like a fool, and the type that dazzles and encourages. Like it's showing you the heights, rather than beating you with a clever trained sword.

In some instances both can exist at the same time. But that requires a strong subject. One the can take beatings, has a lot of genealogy in the blood he spits. In any case, the general truth of this has to do with why you're right about astrology.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:12 pm

Still. A selfvaluing consist of geneaology - the initial one being the failure of nothing to stand in its way. Meaning nothing stood in its way. So the genealogy of there being different things, of confusing nothing into itself.

And hence, any pure self valuing is always inscrutably one with its genealogy but in a way only it can discern. "Only I see where I come from" "the where's I come from"
Its integrity is the knowledge of its origins, and the alchemy of put these origins together.

So psychoanalysis is an attempt to create a new structural integrity by highlighting different origins in newly cast lights of each other.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:11 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja3d1bD5EQ8
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:59 pm

Yeah, but what is the genealogy of the genealogy of the genealogy?

Will to power gives the moment of ultimate excersion. If you have time to explain yourself, what ypu are, you are lagging behind what ypu are anyway and the description will not be fully accurate.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:03 pm

But will to power gives us that you are never really lagging behind yoursef, there is just different types of will to power.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:23 pm

Genealogy is a description of the movement of will to power. Will to power precludes yhe possibiloty of self referenciality. There is no self.

Dippin amd dodgin Mercury here, but in a nutshell
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:25 pm

The will to power is where the surfer meets the wave - the board. The terms.

In self-valuing; it unites the surfer and the wave into itself, it is the path, the arrow.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:26 pm

I'm trying to find a way to say all this and at the same time how brutally keen the observation on psychoanalysis was.

You are possibly the only other human that gets thay. Certainly none of his disciples
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:28 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Genealogy is a description of the movement of will to power. Will to power precludes yhe possibiloty of self referenciality. There is no self.

it refers everything to itself. Rather than referring any "self" to things.
Its has no self, but it is still working with itself.
It is itselfing.
Otherwise it cant crush.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:29 pm

This itself is will to power. The thing in itself. Has no self because everything is it. Yet must wear masks. The self is an advanced stage of maskedness of sameness - this markedness is where the theatre Being takes place.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:29 pm

What's joyous about Freud is that he did get it. He was respectful of will to power. All he credited himself as doing wss discovering something and negociating the wreackage. It was just an explosion eager for the infinite progression of oncoming explosions
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:31 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:What's joyous about Freud is that he did get it. He was respectful of will to power. All he credited himself as doing wss discovering something and negociating the wreackage. It was just an explosion eager for the infinite progression of oncoming explosions


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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:34 pm

That's just one iteration of infinity.

A very good one.

Will to power is precicely not iteration, unless it happens to give it.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:37 pm

Lol, and they say Nietzscheans can't do metaphysics. Puny mortals.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:59 pm

Metaphysics that isn't Niezschean is flat. WtP is compressed time.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

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why 1+1 is not 2 but will to power
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:51 pm

Hahahaha

Thank you for the RZA clips. I had seen the first one but not the second.

Afro Samurai is truly some shit. RZA envisioned it as a milestone, and it definitely felt like one, but culture decided to take a nose dive into CommuBorg idiocy. I swear to you I didn't see it coming.

But, believe it or not, I have now seen its children in some ways. I mean. The blending. RZA may just have created the world.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:53 pm

Afro Samurai 2 sort of loses itself. Like so many Grand Slams, it is impossible fro the Grand Slammer to see that it was an unrepeatable offence.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Fixed Cross » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:45 am

I got some pretty good videos suggested. The first one reminds me of how we used to work with the Chilean. In the second video the guy assembles a sample kit from three randomly picked record I could make 20 beats out of. What he eventually produces isn't genius but he is an artist.
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