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Economic supremacy wars: Chinese vs. Jews

Postby Pandora » Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:20 pm

I have heard the emerging Chinese investors being compared to Jews in their financial takeover abilities. Obviously, they are not the same people, but they do have some similarities, especially when it comes to their keen interest in finances and monetary ambitions in general. That brings up an interesting question: if Chinese were pitted against the Jews in the war for financial power and supremacy, who would win?
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Re: Economic supremacy wars: Chinese vs. Jews

Postby WendyDarling » Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:01 am

The Chinese, who all know martial arts :wink: , and are not violence adverse, they fight their own wars, unlike the Jews who conscript other countries to do their dirty work. Jews' behind the scenes meddling and connivery might land them with a bullet in their brains. The Chinese will win.
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Re: Economic supremacy wars: Chinese vs. Jews

Postby Pandora » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:41 am

http://forward.com/culture/344669/why-a ... -the-jews/

Looks like right now most Chinese have a positive perception of Jews and even try to emulate them.
Interesting mention of Jewish intellectuals who backed Mao, who was responsible for many deaths of Chinese that would make holocaust quite insignificant in comparison.

Divide and weaken/conquer would probably be the most likely tactic. The advance of democracy with the help of countries like Taiwan. A war with North Korea will likely hurt china too.
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Re: Economic supremacy wars: Chinese vs. Jews

Postby Pandora » Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:15 pm

Reading up on some similarities. The Chinese see Judaism through Confucianism, and that is what enabled its survival in China. An interesting mix, but the proposed notion that Jews are not a race but a way of living or practice is incompatible between them because the Chinese are a distinct race of their own. If it spreads it will lose its physical distinctness, it will be distinct only in idea (even more so).

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nyt ... n.amp.html

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 49,00.html
(I remember there was a japanese movie about how Japanese helped the Jews during ww2. It's About a Japanese ambassador who broke the law and gave Jews fake visas to give them passage into China and help them escape the war. It's was called Persona Non Grata, 2015)
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Re: Economic supremacy wars: Chinese vs. Jews

Postby Pandora » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:13 pm

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-an ... sh-studies

Looks like the Chinese will be rolling out the red carpet for the Jews. But some things are not being said. Will Jews continue to support family values of the Chinese once they are allowed to have influence in the Chinese society? Will Chinese themselves abandon their own traditionalism when they embrace the Jewish liberal teachings? Do Chinese believe that they themselves can be immune to it, even while pursuing it? This infatuation with the Jewish ways doesn't really sound like it might turn well for the Chinese.
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Re: Economic supremacy wars: Chinese vs. Jews

Postby Pandora » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:22 pm

I will continue my research. They talk about the idea of a "new Jew", but I think the identity will also be stratified, just like the nazi Germans were, by ethnic/racial purity (I think the orthodox will remain isolated and conservative)

From the article that questions the Jewish future:

In summarizing the question: we will be a smaller community, with fewer resources, comprised of an even more diverse constituency than we know today, including a significantly large number of Jews by choice. Maybe the key element to this new stage of Jewish life in 2050 will be the geographical dispersion of Jews, including the presence of Jewish “colonies” living in Asia and across the Southern Hemisphere, and possibly even in space! Judaism will again be redefining itself with the emergence of new forms of religious and social expression, as it continues to adjust to the changing conditions of the marketplace. Jews will be caught between the push toward individualized, privatized forms of Jewish expression and the traditional volunteer framework of collective expression.

Our larger society will continue to be living with the challenges of global threats including terrorism, ethnic tensions, and environmental threats and possibly new forms of warfare. The major new tensions facing our society will be hostilities between the social classes over economic choices and the growing level of international conflict over declining natural resources. China and India among other new power centers will emerge as contenders for world influence as Europe continues to decline as a political and economic force. Africa will play an increasingly more important role in world affairs, as the Middle East fades into the background, unable to recover from the destructive nature of its internal Islamic wars and the corresponding loss of its economic oil position. Of particular note new space explorations will offer humankind the opportunity to conquer new worlds!

On a larger scale inventions, science and technology will not only change lifestyles but the quality and character of life, as we are likely to see individuals live much longer, as scientists uncover ways to contain or prevent certain diseases and the process of aging is reversed or altered.

(Not sure about the space bit..I little too ambitious I think, unless they also plan on taking over all extra terrestrial alien life forms as well. Lol!)
http://ejewishphilanthropy.com/predicti ... t-in-2050/
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Re: Economic supremacy wars: Chinese vs. Jews

Postby Pandora » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:40 pm

On popularity of Jewish "business" books in China:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 13_pf.html

Hmm..Something tells me that greed (and hence gullibility) is going to be the weakest spot Of the Chinese psyche.
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Re: Economic supremacy wars: Chinese vs. Jews

Postby Otto_West » Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:11 am

There is a remnant of ancient Chinese Jews via the silk road still living in China to this day but what is more interesting is that they're monitored by the Chinese Communist Party much in the same way the muslim Uyghurs are. Seems the Chinese are taking a Stalinesque approach to the Jewish question.

Nonetheless I think the plan is that when the west implodes economically and in society the plan is to migrate to Asia looking for a new host as several retired Jewish economic brokers have already done in the Philippines, Vietnam, Laos, Thailand, and Singapore.

China, Japan, and South Korea would be the zionist future prize eventually.

(If they could take back Russia also from their Bolshevik losses I'm sure they would do that as well.)

Once the European man is destroyed next up on the chopping block will be the Asian one.
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Re: Economic supremacy wars: Chinese vs. Jews

Postby Pandora » Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:08 pm

WendyDarling wrote:The Chinese, who all know martial arts :wink: , and are not violence adverse, they fight their own wars, unlike the Jews who conscript other countries to do their dirty work. Jews' behind the scenes meddling and connivery might land them with a bullet in their brains. The Chinese will win.

I'm thinking you speak in jest here. The martial arts are not going to help the Chinese, but on the opposite, could be used as a weapon against them. I can see it being turned into their own version of new age philosophy. Remember, the Chinese In their mind, are still very superstitious, and are receptive to magical (supernatural) thinking. Just take a look st their martial art movies, a lot of them have mythology involved with magical beings and people with secret supernatural powers (this is unrealistic children's level entertainment). Same with Japanese culture, fascination with 'spirit' world. But the biggest issue is that of cultural psychology, rooted in insecurities, greed, distrustfulness which naturally leads to corruption. Who says that the Chinese will not turn on each other instead? We think that the Chinese are opportunistic when it comes to taking economic advantage in the west and other parts of the world. I say, if that is true, then it's the same or even worse when it comes to them treating their own people, and that is rooted in their own self-value (my term) and personal ethics/morals (which are not very high in my opinion).


Interesting study on trustworthiness score, by country.

https://www.google.com/amp/m.scmp.com/l ... %3Famp%3D1

Besides that, because of their cultural superstitious beliefs concerning health, food, and exotic medicinal cures, China does offer a great market opportunities. It's just missing the Harvard Phd experts or spiritual gurus telling them how bat shit gathered during the autumn full moon will cure cancer, or make them live to 120...for a price ;)
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Re: Economic supremacy wars: Chinese vs. Jews

Postby Otto_West » Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:49 pm

Generally speaking the Chinese are called the Asian Jews of the orient even by their neighbors as their banking institutions have been around forever.
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Re: Economic supremacy wars: Chinese vs. Jews

Postby James S Saint » Sat Jul 08, 2017 6:16 am

Pandora wrote:Interesting study on trustworthiness score, by country.

https://www.google.com/amp/m.scmp.com/l ... %3Famp%3D1

A highly untrustworthy test procedure.
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Re: Economic supremacy wars: Chinese vs. Jews

Postby Pandora » Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:35 pm

Gambling addiction among Asians:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psycho ... tion%3Famp

(I don't think Jews have that kind of problem). It's Chinese superstitious thinking and greed that will make them very vulnerable.
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Re: Economic supremacy wars: Chinese vs. Jews

Postby Kathrina » Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:58 am

CHINA TAKES OVER U.S. BANK.





When Will China Take Over the World?
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Re: Economic supremacy wars: Chinese vs. Jews

Postby Otto_West » Sun Jul 09, 2017 2:23 am

Except China has over extended itself economically where it is equally in worse shape as the U.S. Actually as far as super powers are concerned Russia is doing better than both China and the United States.
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Re: Economic supremacy wars: Chinese vs. Jews

Postby Pandora » Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:21 pm

A little off topic but there is a study which pointed out that South Koreans lean towards anti-Semitic attitude toward the Jews; which was later re-interpreted as a positive thing, that is, the despised qualities of the Jews are actually admired by Koreans. Yep.

https://www.algemeiner.com/2015/06/26/k ... mpliments/


http://thediplomat.com/2014/05/why-is-s ... i-semitic/

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 90,00.html


Are some peoples fundamentally and qualitatively different?! They either see or don't see something. I wonder, did some Europeans have the same attitude originally?
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Re: Economic supremacy wars: Chinese vs. Jews

Postby Otto_West » Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:52 am

Pandora wrote:A little off topic but there is a study which pointed out that South Koreans lean towards anti-Semitic attitude toward the Jews; which was later re-interpreted as a positive thing, that is, the despised qualities of the Jews are actually admired by Koreans. Yep.

https://www.algemeiner.com/2015/06/26/k ... mpliments/


http://thediplomat.com/2014/05/why-is-s ... i-semitic/

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 90,00.html


Are some peoples fundamentally and qualitatively different?! They either see or don't see something. I wonder, did some Europeans have the same attitude originally?


Once again, the rest of the world is becoming Jew wise having seen organized Jewry destroy European nations. This will continue until Jewish supremacy is challenged everywhere or what I like to refer as a zionist Hebrewtocracy. It cannot be ignored as it eventually has to be dealt with.
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Re: Economic supremacy wars: Chinese vs. Jews

Postby Pandora » Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:13 am

On Korean anti-Semitic incident involving Samsung company. It was later retracted when US government officials got involved.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... Korea.html


https://www.google.com/amp/observer.com ... toons/amp/
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Re: Economic supremacy wars: Chinese vs. Jews

Postby Kathrina » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:17 pm

Otto_West wrote:Except China has over extended itself economically where it is equally in worse shape as the U.S. Actually as far as super powers are concerned Russia is doing better than both China and the United States.

You mean that Putin has more under control?
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Re: Economic supremacy wars: Chinese vs. Jews

Postby pilgrim-seeker_tom » Fri Sep 08, 2017 12:13 am

IMHO so few Western people possess a grain of understanding vis a vis the Chinese psyche ... ergo ... Chinese culture and history.

Western media obviously presents China and the Chinese people in the unfavourable light they want you to see them in.

The history of Buddhism in China offers insights into your question about Chinese vs Jews. The Chinese have historically absorbed what they consider the "diamonds" of new ideologies ... new to the Chinese ... into their "psyche" and ignore the rest ... usually the bulk of it.

While Buddhism has been in China for almost 2,000 it remains on the sidelines of mainstream Chinese culture/society.

The West cannot make the same claim for Christianity.
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Re: Economic supremacy wars: Chinese vs. Jews

Postby Arminius » Fri Sep 08, 2017 12:59 am

China has its own, its old religion too. It is older than Buddhism.
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Re: Economic supremacy wars: Chinese vs. Jews

Postby pilgrim-seeker_tom » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:10 am

Arminius wrote:China has its own, its old religion too. It is older than Buddhism.


For me ... what separates Chinese religion from the 'crowd' of religions is the absence of heirarchy/institution/dogma ... ergo ... no pope ... no dali lama ... no caliph ... no patriarch and son and so on
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Re: Economic supremacy wars: Chinese vs. Jews

Postby zinnat » Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:45 pm

Pandora wrote: if Chinese were pitted against the Jews in the war for financial power and supremacy, who would win?


The Jews, of course, 10 out of 10 times.

The Chinese are not yet tested against other communities. In spite of so much economic development in China, no chinese individual or companies are yet able to establish a successful big business outside china. On the other hand, Jews have done that successfully all over the world. Chinese have succeeded to some extent outside China only in some Asian countries like Malaysia but have failed to repeat that success in the developed world, both individual and organizational level too.

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Re: Economic supremacy wars: Chinese vs. Jews

Postby Arminius » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:45 pm

zinnat wrote:The Chinese are not yet tested against other communities. In spite of so much economic development in China, no chinese individual or companies are yet able to establish a successful big business outside china. On the other hand, Jews have done that successfully all over the world. Chinese have succeeded to some extent outside China only in some Asian countries like Malaysia but have failed to repeat that success in the developed world, both individual and organizational level too.

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And in Africa!

Otto_West wrote:You know I once was thinking to myself that China taking over Africa politically and economically was a terrible thing in conjunction with the west but upon further inspection it looks like Africa will probably bankrupt China financially. This documentary is hilarious full of racist interactions, where the Chinese look upon the Congolese as apes the Congolese remark that the Chinese look like pigs. I'm just so happy that under globalization people from around the world are coming together and uniting. This documentary literally brought tears to my eyes and by tears I mean tears of laughter. :lol:

Between one and ten stars I rate this documentary an eight.


Arminius wrote: :lol:

"What can we do?“

- "Probably nothing.“

"When will the boss come?“

- "Probably never.“


"Will we arrange a deal?“

- "I don't know.“

"Nothing is going on here.“

- "Yes.“

„What can we do today?“

- „Wait. .... Nothing.“

:lol:

Otto_West wrote:You can tell that Chinese guy just wants to rip his own hair out over constant frustration.

Arminius wrote:The Chinese people in Africa are very frustrated. What are the Africans doing all the time? Nothing - except stealing and sleeping. :lol:

And the Chinese reaction is always: "We have to punish them!"

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Otto_West wrote:Chinese are about to get a lesson as to why Europeans left Africa for the most part.

- viewtopic.php?f=3&t=193137 .
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Re: Economic supremacy wars: Chinese vs. Jews

Postby pilgrim-seeker_tom » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:57 pm

Recorded history suggests the Chinese civilization always ... and continues to ... prefer insulation and isolation. Until recently, the previous serious attempt to gaze beyond the borders of the civilization occurred early in the 15th century, prior to the dawn of Western imperialism and colonialism. The result being China closed it's doors to the outside world for 500 years.

OTH ... the Jews were expelled from their homeland more than 2,500 years ago ... giving them no choice but find a way to succeed on the "outside". Their persistent success likely gave rise to the ubiquitous envy/jealousy.

In any event ... eventually conscience will trump money.

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Re: Economic supremacy wars: Chinese vs. Jews

Postby Arminius » Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:43 am

pilgrim-seeker_tom wrote:Recorded history suggests the Chinese civilization always ... and continues to ... prefer insulation and isolation. Until recently, the previous serious attempt to gaze beyond the borders of the civilization occurred early in the 15th century, prior to the dawn of Western imperialism and colonialism. The result being China closed it's doors to the outside world for 500 years.

Arminius wrote:Note: In the following I am going to use the word "Europeans“ for all those people who are of European origin (except those who are globalists), regardless where they currently live.

China started its protectionism politics about 2200 years ago by building the big wall. Why should the Europeans not start doing it today too? The answer is that the globalists do not want the Europeans to do it, and that all European politicians are the henchmen of the globalists.

During the so-called "cold war“ the peoples of the NATO-bloc were told that the NATO was a "military defense alliance“ - a lie. At the very latest since the 1990’s we have clearly experienced that the NATO is not a "military defense“ but a military offense alliance. The Europeans have to reform the NATO, so that it can be a real military defense alliance. This is possible without huge economical disadvantages, if they start doing this as soon as possible. The later they will start doing this, the more expensive their doing and the more likely their breakup or even extinction will become.

The demographic development is one point, but the huge economic and military power - both based on and correlative with the technological advance the Europeans still have - is the other point. As long as the said advance will remain, the Europeans will be capable of doing whatever they want, provided that this doing will serve real European interests. So we have two questions in this case: (1) Will the Europeans start defending themselves early enough? (2) How long will the said advance remain?

But I fear that the Europeans will further on serve the globalists. In that case, we can only hope that the globalists will some day get their senses back, get some common sense. The last chance for the Europeans in the case of remaining homogenous will be one country somewhere on this planet (or on the planet Mars or the moon Europa? :) ), but even then they will have to calculate on much resistance against them. In the long run, the globalists themselves will have no future either. After that globalistic era many solutions will be possible, also SAM or a reign of machines (AI).
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