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Re: Does reality exist?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:12 pm
by AutSider
What there is -- what can be observed -- are observations and interpretations (or assumptions.)


Reality is what is observed. Observations and interpretations exist within reality. People will talk a lot and lie a lot, pretending they don't understand what interaction means.

Then as soon as you start interacting with them they demonstrate with their actions that they know very well what it means, and that the words they say are, simply, lies.



Could the fag have made Bane's hand go away by saying "you're not interacting with me"?

Could he make Bane go away by saying "you don't exist", "you're not real", "reality doesn't exist", "reality isn't real", or whatever other demented nonsense cowards will come up with?

If you think that words should be connected not to reality, but to other words by infinitely defining things and never referring to reality, I say you're a sheltered coward and your philosophy is as worthless as you.

That's my final.

Re: Does reality exist?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:49 pm
by Magnus Anderson
AutSider wrote:Reality is what is observed.


Observations (associated with Dionysus) are more fundamental than interpretations (associated with Apollo.)
Because of this, we often associate observations with "reality" while associating interpretations with "mind".
We call the former concrete and the latter abstract.
This isn't disputed.

Observations and interpretations exist within reality.


If what you mean is that observations and interpretations are "what is observed" then I agree. I prefer the term "experienced" though because the term "observation" is too narrow. But that's another story.

People will talk a lot and lie a lot, pretending they don't understand what interaction means.


Understanding what interaction is intuitively is not the same as understanding what interaction is rationally.

For example, I can understand what computers are without understanding how they work.
Or I can understand what it means to move my limbs without understanding the underlying physics.
There's a massive difference between the two.

What you're doing here is you are evading defining the concept of interaction with the excuse that there is some kind of conspiracy taking place behind your back where I am intentionally or unintentionally lying to you about not knowing what interaction is.
As if I don't know what interaction is . . . intuitively or rationally.

Then as soon as you start interacting with them they demonstrate with their actions that they know very well what it means, and that the words they say are, simply, lies.


You're being a paranoid retard.
Or maybe you're just being a retard, I don't know.
I do, however, sense some degree of paranoia.
Everyone must be conspiring against you.
The slightest suggestion -- such as that the concept of reality makes no sense -- appears very capable of triggering this fear in you.

I know relatively well what interaction is.
I know what it is intuitively and I know what it is rationally.
The question is: do you know what interaction is? Not intuitively but rationally. Do you? What is the degree of precision with which you understand the phenomenon of interaction? Pretty low, right?

Could the fag have made Bane's hand go away by saying "you're not interacting with me"?

Could he make Bane go away by saying "you don't exist", "you're not real", "reality doesn't exist", "reality isn't real", or whatever other demented nonsense cowards will come up with


So that's what you find worrying . . .
The possibility that I am saying that there is a strong, perhaps even absolute, causal relation between what one says and what happens.
In other words, that I expect, or predict, that whenever someone says "I am eating" that they would immediately be fed.
Okay.

Here's a little exercise for you.
Dig through my posts in this thread and take a note for every paragraph or sentence that makes you think that I am suggesting the above.
Then I am going to explain to you -- yes, I am going to hand hold you -- that in no way, shape or form am I saying any such thing.

Let's have fun, okay?

If you think that words should be connected not to reality, but to other words by infinitely defining things and never referring to reality, I say you're a sheltered coward and your philosophy is as worthless as you.


Words are supposed to be connected to observations.
That's what it means to define a word: to describe the sequence of events (or observations) it refers to.
That's what I am asking you to do with the word "interaction".
I want you to tell me what that word means i.e. I want you to describe to me the exact sequence of events it refers to.
Not just tell me "well, I know what it means [intuitively]".
Lots of people will tell you that "I know what God is [intuitively]".
Are you a mystic or a rational person?
What are you, AutSider?

My point -- even though your attitude does not deserve my explanation -- is that the concept of interaction exists only on the higher level of abstraction -- on the level of interpretations. On the lowest level of abstraction, on the level of observations, there is no such a thing. There are only observations. There is only a sequence of observations (among them interpretations.)

Re: Does reality exist?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:48 pm
by AutSider
Riječi su za pićke, pićke vole riječi, da ne znam govorit drko bi ti u usta jer sam veći.

Re: Does reality exist?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:02 pm
by Magnus Anderson
Croatian language is very gay. Both written and spoken.
It's piČke, moron, not piĆke.
Preference for soft consonants should tell you everything you need to know about a people . . .

Re: Does reality exist?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:14 pm
by Magnus Anderson
Listen to a Croat speaking:



Then listen to a Serb speaking:


Re: Does reality exist?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:29 pm
by Ecmandu
Reality is relational, contextual.

"That's a real mirage; a real illusion."

Everything is real in some way.

Real is about utility, utility implies relational.

"Is a real"

and

"exists as"

are synonyms with different syntax.

Re: Does reality exist?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:20 pm
by AutSider
Serbs are the niggers of Europe.

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Re: Does reality exist?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:21 pm
by AutSider

Re: Does reality exist?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:00 am
by Pandora
I hope this thread will not turn into another Balkan conflict.:/

Magnus...there is no need for that...

Re: Does reality exist?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:59 am
by Magnus Anderson
You're right. There isn't.

Re: Does reality exist?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:37 am
by Mr Reasonable
Yes reality exists. What the fuck kind of stupid question is that?

Re: Does reality exist?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:20 am
by Magnus Anderson
I don't know. You tell me.
You are the smartest person in the room.
Right behind Fixed.

Re: Does reality exist?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:46 pm
by Mr Reasonable
Right behind your mom.

Re: Does reality exist?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:17 pm
by WendyDarling
Serbs are the niggers of Europe.


Moja serbian krv kaže da te jebem! Hrvati su sranje, to je jasno.

Re: Does reality exist?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:40 pm
by Magnus Anderson
That's a very bad translation, Wendy. You just told him something you didn't really want to tell him. What you said is "My Serbian blood instructs me to fuck you." Never ever mess with Google translators.

The correct translation is:
"Moja srpska krv ti kaže da se nosiš u tri lepe pičke materine."

Use the correct swearwords and you can never go wrong.

Someone please quote me because I'm on Wendy's foe list so she can't see this.

Re: Does reality exist?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:41 pm
by Mr Reasonable
Magnus Anderson wrote:That's a very bad translation, Wendy. You just told him something you didn't really want to tell him. What you said is "My Serbian blood instructs me to fuck you." Never ever mess with Google translators.

The correct translation is:
"Moja srpska krv ti kaže da se nosiš u tri lepe pičke materine."

Use the correct insults and you can never go wrong.

Someone please quote me because I'm on Wendy's foe list so she can't see this.


Wendy, Maggie wanted you to see this.

Re: Does reality exist?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:47 pm
by WendyDarling
Maybe I would fuck him...in ways that he would not like which would be the only ways I would fuck him. Now I'll return to my PG mode.

Re: Does reality exist?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:29 am
by AutSider
Magnus Anderson wrote:You're right. There isn't.


Serbs always instigate conflict and then end up regretting it. Nothing new here. But yeah, let's stop.

Re: Does reality exist?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:34 am
by AutSider
Magnus Anderson wrote:That's a very bad translation, Wendy. You just told him something you didn't really want to tell him. What you said is "My Serbian blood instructs me to fuck you." Never ever mess with Google translators.

The correct translation is:
"Moja srpska krv ti kaže da se nosiš u tri lepe pičke materine."

Use the correct swearwords and you can never go wrong.

Someone please quote me because I'm on Wendy's foe list so she can't see this.


Yeah and now cause you quoted Wendy, who is on MY foe list, I ended up seeing what she wrote even though I didn't wanna. Because fuck foe lists, right?

The only way I'd ever penetrate Wendy the filthy mudshark is with a knife or a bullet. It'd be a painless quickie and she'd bleed like a virgin but from her head, as her brain matter oozes out of her skull.

Not interested in fucking nigger-lovers, sorry Wendy. You're only good for the rope.

Re: Does reality exist?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:45 am
by Magnus Anderson
AutSider wrote:
Magnus Anderson wrote:You're right. There isn't.


Serbs always instigate conflict and then end up regretting it. Nothing new here. But yeah, let's stop.


No regrets whatsoever.
You are still a retard despite that study you linked to.
You're the one who left the discussion and I respect that . . .
Remember, you said "that's my final".

Re: Does reality exist?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:33 pm
by Arcturus Descending
Hi AutSider

Gees, how sandbox talk has evolved.


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I decided to delete that post. If we are not part of the solution, we ourselves are also a part of the problem.

How can it be so easy for a man to speak to or about a woman like that? Where does it come from? How does it get to such a point?

Why?

I am not really looking for an answer from you, per see, and I probably wouldn't get one anyone.
You might want to possibly ruminate on the above...or not.

Men, not all men, but many or some, sometimes think that they are such alpha males because of the way in which they think and feel and talk about women but are they really? Of course, I am not really saying that you think of yourself in such a way because of that speech of yours. But....


I watched a video last night called "Hacksaw Ridge" about Desmond Doss' life and time while serving in the Second World War. What a movie. It was as inspiring and profound as it was gory and tragic. The best and the worst of humanity in two hours time. It was so disturbing but I would not have missed it.


I thought of the alpha male, the real alpha male, and Nietszche's Ubermensch (though I don't really know if Freddie himself would have considered Doss as such. I would be curious though to know if he would have. Doss was a christian and a conscientious objector and he had the courage of his convictions to such a degree that I found him to be awe-inspiring. Such courage and will but would N have found him to be the same. Who knows. I certainly did.

Why do we make such mountains out of molehills while there are already so many mountains to be scaled and brought down?

Re: Does reality exist?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:13 pm
by WendyDarling
Magnus Anderson wrote:
That's a very bad translation, Wendy. You just told him something you didn't really want to tell him. What you said is "My Serbian blood instructs me to fuck you." Never ever mess with Google translators.

The correct translation is:
"Moja srpska krv ti kaže da se nosiš u tri lepe pičke materine."

Use the correct insults and you can never go wrong.

Someone please quote me because I'm on Wendy's foe list so she can't see this.

WendyDarling » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:47 pm

Maybe I would fuck him...in ways that he would not like which would be the only ways I would fuck him. Now I'll return to my PG mode.

The only way I'd ever penetrate Wendy the filthy mudshark is with a knife or a bullet. It'd be a painless quickie and she'd bleed like a virgin but from her head, as her brain matter oozes out of her skull.

Not interested in fucking nigger-lovers, sorry Wendy. You're only good for the rope.


Wendy wrote: The maybe has become definitely and it would be for the next twenty or so years.


Someone quote all this since my favorite man foe'd me.

Re: Does reality exist?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:27 am
by Mr Reasonable
For all the people who use the foe list, you're a bunch of pussies. What a pussy thing to do.

You people are those "millenials" that I keep hearing about. A whole generation of vaginas. "I'm putting you on a list so I don't have to see what you type".

PUSSY SHIT GROW A PAIR

Re: Does reality exist?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:29 am
by Mr Reasonable
The worst are the philosophical hardasses, the Nazi wannabe eugenics types. Its like I'm watching a bunch of pussies talk about the cultural and philosophical underpinnings of being a tough guy. Cracks me up. FOE THIS pansies.

Re: Does reality exist?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:40 am
by Magnus Anderson
I don't think Autsider is taking foe list seriously. He's just trying to blend in with the crowd.