phyllo wrote:The Borg are not alienated from society. The Borg are a collective consciousness.
Here is another thought : If society is crazy, then being alienated from society is a good thing.
phyllo wrote:Jesus and Buddha are "outsiders".
How would you describe their relationship to society?... not sure I would use the word "outsiders".
phyllo wrote:How would you describe their relationship to society?... not sure I would use the word "outsiders".
Peter Kropotkin wrote:so to return to the question of, Who are you?
the second part of this equation and it is an equation, is this.....
if we are unclear as to, who we are, then how can we
understand our place in society and our place in the universe......
I was going to connect this idea of not knowing who we are with
the idea that because we don't know who we are, our society seems
to be disconnected from us because we don't know who we
the real reason society seem disconnected or as Marx put it, alienated
is because we don't know who we are)..
the so called failure of society lies
with us and not in society....
and this is what causing the discontentment and anguish within society
pilgrim_tom wrote:one might argue that the evolution of the human species is one long continuous journey ... destination unknown.
humunculus wrote:pilgrim_tom wrote:one might argue that the evolution of the human species is one long continuous journey ... destination unknown.
One might also use that metaphor for life, a romantic relationship, enrollment in a college course, a regimen of treatment for chronic illness, a cooking contest or hitchhiking.
Ierrellus wrote:The second I tell you who I think I am I will be something other than that.
Xunzian wrote:I'm a gestalt entity created by my relationships reaching back before I was born and reaching to infinity.
Xunzian wrote:There is no contradiction. The creation and sundering of relationships are what define us. Individuating (especially from parents) is an important psychological milestone. However, radical individualism is an empty promise. Life is a radical process of becoming. Becoming is violent, so it'd be naive to think that the interplay between ontological being and existential becoming would be easily understood or even non-contradictory.
Xunzian wrote:I know nothing of species. That's broader than my philosophy.
Xunzian wrote:But if you view the individual as a rubber band. you'll agree there are stretched and relaxed states that exist.
pilgrim_tom wrote:phyllo wrote:Jesus and Buddha are "outsiders".
... not sure I would use the word "outsiders".
reminds me of a comment made by a brilliant young man in Santiago Compostella many years ago ... we met by chance after walking the Camino.
He said ... paraphrasing ... perhaps Jesus is the first human with a conscious recollection of where he came from.
Arcturus Descending wrote:I think we're all capable of having that conscious recollection of where we come from. We just need to reflect on it, ask questions, observe the world, read...
Are you suggesting K. add one word to his question ... "Who are you becoming?"
Ierrellus wrote:There are three stages of becoming: individuation, metamorphosis (change) and synthesis (of old and new changes). The stages suggest the was, are and will be of biological entities.
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