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Re: Truth

Postby WendyDarling » Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:24 am

He cannot be civil. Too bad.
I AM OFFICIALLY IN HELL!

I live my philosophy, it's personal to me and people who engage where I live establish an unspoken dynamic, a relationship of sorts, with me and my philosophy.

Cutting folks for sport is a reality for the poor in spirit. I myself only cut the poor in spirit on Tues., Thurs., and every other Sat.
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Re: Truth

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:30 am

As usual, another thread devolves into bullshit and ego insults competition.
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Re: Truth

Postby Ecmandu » Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:52 am

Random factor is posturing, not philosophizing, and deserves to be called out on it...

His last post is his best attempt at making a post you can cut and paste in any thread and declare yourself the winner... Without having to discuss the topic at all...

The dude is trolling his own thread, and that's really hard to do!
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Re: Truth

Postby WendyDarling » Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:18 am

:lol:
I AM OFFICIALLY IN HELL!

I live my philosophy, it's personal to me and people who engage where I live establish an unspoken dynamic, a relationship of sorts, with me and my philosophy.

Cutting folks for sport is a reality for the poor in spirit. I myself only cut the poor in spirit on Tues., Thurs., and every other Sat.
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Re: Truth

Postby The Eternal Warrior » Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:11 pm

Lol, you guys, or you one person pretending to be many, are taking advantage far too much of my seeming lack of support to try to break me. You're going to kill yourselves in the most horrendous ways by fighting against me and all that's right. There is nothing but repeated and continual evidence of it, of what you're bringing to the table always falling far short of the mark.

You all will die.
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Re: Truth

Postby Ecmandu » Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:08 pm

Random Factor wrote:Lol, you guys, or you one person pretending to be many, are taking advantage far too much of my seeming lack of support to try to break me. You're going to kill yourselves in the most horrendous ways by fighting against me and all that's right. There is nothing but repeated and continual evidence of it, of what you're bringing to the table always falling far short of the mark.

You all will die.


Why are you laughing?

Who cares if we're all going to die?

You think this shithole is some forever wet dream to people??

Sucks to be you
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Re: Truth

Postby The Eternal Warrior » Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:09 pm

Why shouldn't I laugh? It's just a huge, twisted, fucked up joke of extremely dark humor to me at this point. To see you all and so many others throughout the world, both within the mind and outside repeat so many ineffective things in response to me is now becoming funny.

Telling me that I just don't 'get it', or that I just don't know what the world is like when I obviously do. Then, having so many step up to teach me only to each fail in turn. Am I just supposed to suddenly stop and fall in line to the tune of all that's Wrong? You all see me take on so many and remain undaunted and unafraid when each of you fell far more quickly with far less persuasion. I don't think you all realize just how much more I've seen and know of the world for it all than any of you.

And, like the survivors of rape or trauma, dark humor helps heal, though I'm in need of no such healing. I just can't help but laugh at the absurdity of it all, that you all still remain so confident that I'm wrong as if there's some great secret that I don't know that you all do and when I look into each of you, when I look into the eyes of others, or when they show me their minds, I see only confision, spotty reasoning, fractured thought trains and no great secret that I don't already know.

If you don't care if you die, why are you still alive? I know that I'm going to die someday and I've accepted that and will welcome it when it comes, but there's still much of life to be enjoyed, for me, and it's still a matter of what we do with our lives that matters and I'm not done here, yet. But you, so miserable, what do you cling to in such Morbidity? For you and others here coming at me, I don't mean that you will die like everyone else, I mean that your deaths will be far more horrible and painful than death will be for so many others. And, it's not because I care that I point it out at this point, but simply to rub it in your faces, to rub your noses in your own shit like dogs yet to learn to scratch on the door to be let outside.

I'm not so naive and never have been that it's some forever wet dream. What part of the story of my life that you've seen me tell here would show anything other than that I have experienced pain and suffering far beyond your own. You really show your own stupidity and naivety with that statement.

Why would I fight so hard to make it better if I believed it to already be Better? And, why would I fight so hard unless there was strong possibility for it to be made better. I'm not prone to pursuing fruitless endeavors or wild goose chases.

It really sucks more to be you than to be me. I might fight a much harder fight, but at least I don't try to stand against what's right. That's just asking and begging to be destroyed in much worse fashion than you think me to be doing.
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Re: Truth

Postby Ecmandu » Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:55 pm

Right and wrong are very straight forward...

You either get everything you want or you instantly *poof* out of existence.

Any being that doesn't afford this is going to hell...

You delight in this shithole, and you will not be the last one laughing ...

I have no idea how someone so smart became so twisted and apologetic for this shit show...

But here it is. Your posts in this thread.

An ass kissing asshole.

You know why most people don't suicide?

Because they have a conscience and don't have a humane way to do it!

But, someone who clearly lacks very basic elements of a cosmic consciousness, can't even type consciousness preschool sentences, and then huffs and puffs, that the only reason we know anything is because of them!! Ha!

As if!

You've already proven to the world that you're a faker... A con artist ! A fraud!

A real king has no crown and a real king has no throne room...

Everything you learned, you learned from my bird droppings... And you'll adapt it to troll more effectively...

Random, you are not what you claim to be
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Re: Truth

Postby The Eternal Warrior » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:12 pm

Right and wrong are pretty straightforward, but not all the time, not when you mix in psychology, trauma and abuse, cause and effect, punishment and reward, etc. Not when you add good and evil to the mix, insanity, and then what you might have to do that is neither right nor wrong. It can be complicated and if you say that it is always simple, you're nothing more than just a child mind that refuses to see and judges too harshly.

Obviously there are things that exist and happen that shouldn't, but they do exist and happen and not always for wrong reasons.

I'm afraid that your next statement about proofing out of existence is rather ridiculous.

I'm pretty sure that I don't delight in any shit hole and I'm not laughing very much. Why you want to call earth and everything else a shit hole is beyond me. They didn't start out that way. There's still a lot to be enjoyed that isn't depraved or twisted or fucked up. I seem to recall that I came here to talk philosophy and found each of you faulty in your philosophies to varying degrees and said so and said why and each of you in turn stepped to me, taking the things I said in personal fashion and began attacking me whereupon I defended myself. You wish to see yourselves as good and me as evil or vice versa but that isn't that simple and I never saw it along those lines. Nor, did I ever once see it along the lines of right or wrong due to emotion, due to lack of seeing clearly, due to lack of thinking properly. And at the point of you being more wrong than I, I was on ly right for taking offense at the right things to take offense from while you and others became offended in all the wrong ways. Negativity, pessimism, misperception, etc, things that I wasn't so blinded by because I was the recipient of far more hate than any of you in my life. It kind of makes it hard to want to be hateful when so many others are hateful of you and makes it hard to be bitter when so many around you are bitter and makes it hard to be petty and vindictive when others make it so unwanted by how they treat you with it. It's those backwards things like that that make me different. I suffered being the recipient of these things and found it easier not to be. I starved for actual friendship and love and closeness and care and so treasured those things more. I saw the death of those things in communities all around me and because I treasured them, I fought harder for them, saw more clearly the cause of their deaths and fought against those things which helped diminish my anger in ways none of you could truly see for being more the cause than me.

Because I accepted too much guilt for things that weren't my fault and seemingly cried over so many things in life that others didnt, the small things, I was more prepared to face the huge. And when I realized the former about the guilt, I stopped feeling guilt for a lot of things, stopped feeling sympathy for those I hurt that cried their crocodile tears only to stab me in the back because they wanted to keep me down and being the pack mule for their emotions.

I assure you that I am far from twisted, but it's not as if you'd be able to tell because I'm not here to show you mercy otherwise I'd be petty and vindictive for you, I'd be bitter for you. I'd play the role for you all to become better. But, I spent the first part of my life being the good guy and feeling evil and wrong and twisted for it. I refuse to be the villain for you. That practice has set bad precedent in the world up to this point and I actually did put the hard effort into fixing myself and remain the good guy even while you and others so wantonly misperceive me.

And because I won't let you trash talk me and talk shit and beat me down, for that I'm a monster, inhuman, etc...

I just don't put up with spoiled children running all over me. I put my foot down and it stays down. I say no and it remains no even after the billionth time being asked. I will not tolerate what should not and can not be tolerated. I will be the firm hand in discipline because I am right and all reason other than faulty reasoning of spoiled children supports it and the proof is vastly evident even to tge spoiled children who simply don't like being punished and call it abuse. And, when nobody comes running anymore when they cry abuse because they became the boys and girls that cried wolf too many times when there was no wolf, I do find myself the wolf feasting on their meat and blood and bones while all the others turn a blind eye and pretend not to hear the screams. If you expect it to bother my conscience... it doesn't. Just the same as much of what you and others have done to others has not bothered yours as much as you might openly claim to the contrary.

And, I never stated that the only reason anyone knows anything at all is because of me and you know that. I don't even have to explain this: that what I said was that it would not be advancing as it is now without me. That I learned enough of what was being taught, caught up to it, lifted it up and carried it far further for what I could see and what I could do than any other person could or would. I never claim more than my fair share and stood on the shoulders of giants before ever becoming a giant in my own right.

And, sadly, all ive learned from you is that you need a major ass kicking, probably to have somebody beat you close to death so you learn when to close your mouth and not state idiocies. You have not amounted to any great works, have not taught any great things, have not formed any great thoughts or theories of your own or posited them into the communal landscape. You have done nothing to even claim that I learned form your bird droppings.
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Re: Truth

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Wed Nov 09, 2016 7:37 pm

Way I see it, Random Factor is fed up with society, it's nazi-laws, injust punishments, oil wars, and the small-minds who run the show. But he has no way to actually change society or exact any kind of justice.

So he takes his righteous anger out on people like you and me. Ecmandu is a good man, you shouldn't interfere with him like this. I am a good woman, I am going to make the DnA machine. You should support us not fight us.
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Re: Truth

Postby The Eternal Warrior » Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:10 pm

How are you good people, define that. society is made up of more than make the laws and enact them and there are people fighting on those levels already to seeming ineffective ends.

We do not have nazi laws as far as i can see, just no way to enforce the laws equally, no way to know, individual to individual whether justice is meted out fairly or not. At the core of it, the legal system and justice system fall short due to the lack of honor and honesty of the citizens. Our governments both federal and state fall short due to the lack of responsibility of the citizens, that they are citizens leading citizens and citizens punishing citizens and citizens judging citizens to the point where even crime becomes a viable method of survival.

So, i change society citizen by citizen in many ways through interaction just the same as everyone else. you are not good people otherwise you would never have argued and fought as you have against me and would not claim so easily now to ve good people. Your dna ideas are largely impossible, largely unnecessary and will lead more to defects and faulty genetics if they are more than just bullshit said by you to make you look like youre doing more than sitting there keeping people down on the internet.

I am obviously a good person. Good people do not do to me what you have done. Good people do not make false claims of unviable research even if genetic engineering could be found to be ethical, which it can be, but not the way youve claimed to want to go about it.
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Re: Truth

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:46 pm

Here's the deal RF...

When god makes an offer, nobody refuses...

Stop prattling on about making us offers and us refusing them, and how great your bullshit sacrifice is

I make more sacrifices every second just for living, than you've made your whole life...

All I want is eternal death, but I sacrifice my desire to give it to others...

I lay my life down for people...

And you bitch and bitch and bitch about how you sacrifice to yell at people forever...

You're a shithead RF

That's all you are
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Re: Truth

Postby The Eternal Warrior » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:13 am

Oh dear, youve finally got it right. Out of all the other insults that you and other insulters have hurled, out of all the other lies that you and other liars have lied, you have managed to strike true with this one blow of pure truth of my character laid out in petty jab form because why waste the full length of reasoning that lies behind this truth that strikes me to my core on the likes of such filthy doggerel as me?

Alas! I have been at last bested and brought to my knees! Alas... all my life has been naught but a lie! Oh! The agony of it as I writhe in pain!

How... how could you lay such a cruel blow upon my shoulders!? Could you not see i sought such eternal release myself, like you? Could you not see through my lies of false sacrifice to see that all i wanted was to be forever disentangled from all of reality itself to be free of consequences that can never be free from and only committed myself to the truth that such is impossible?!

Oh, forgive me, my liege, for ever doubting your sacrifice or comparing my shameless fakery to your majesty! A million pardons! No, forget that! No pardons! Make me suffer more my liege, i beg of you. It is only fitting that a boy such as i have been suffers to the utmost for this base affrontery of your most benevolent and gracious man of a self.

-makes jerking off motions and throws invisible jizz in ecmandus face-

Fuck off, you little pussy.
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Re: Truth

Postby The Eternal Warrior » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:18 am

What the fuck are you going to do when all that i have ever claimed still remains true while you still run around crying like a bitch that ive told far too many times.
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Re: Truth

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:59 am

Your ego is your suffering ...

You have become so narcissistic that you think ego itself for everyone is suffering...

A fellow like you is too narcissistic to even imagine that someone would want to *poof* forever...

Your karma is to drag hatred of you through your own shitstorm...

You'll hate it btw
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Re: Truth

Postby The Eternal Warrior » Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:12 pm

Its not that ego and narcissism would cause me to suffer, its the simple fact that they would interfere with my work. Id likely get more caught up in them if i spent too much time self congratulating and self masturbating than actually doing things of value and would, over time, lose sight of more important things. Theyve also never been what I was about before a certain point, i got called on them at a certain point when they arose as rebound insecurities ro the insecurities I once had and was thankful for being called on them at the same time as noting they were just rebound insecurities and not actual confidence. I noticed that people hated people who were too egotistic and narcissistic and furthermore I didnt want to be hated. That those who were egotistic, vain, narcissistic were largely disrespected and I wanted further to be respected, that they lead to god complexes and I did not want a god complex. All of that would truthfully interrupt all work of value that Ive been doing and cause me to lose sight that I was never that important to that work in term of being more than a vessel that it flows through. And, just because, now, Im vitally important to that work, it doesnt mean that I even want to get a big head about it because I enjoy the work, I find it fascinating and what i want to be about more than anything else.

I mean if you want to get down to it, i dont think it would geatly impact my work right now, i could indulge a bit if you want. Im out of practice, though, let me see if I can drag it up...


What bothers you all most, that I call my shots out ahead of time, or that they actually land home, that I state myself to be a great man or that its actually true. What fucks with you more, that I state myself to be wise or go through and actually prove it? Didnt you know that I am the greatest I Am from the most infinite loser, the unrelenting, the equalizer, the first and last man standing, the ultimate survivor of ultimate suvivors of ultimate survivors. I think it bothers you all that I could, can and do talk about myself all the time and never once nave it be ego or narcissisim but using examples of things I know best to drive home important lessons, objective examples, that I am and have been my favorite guinea pig test subject up to a certain point and when it comes down to it, have had to make you all my guinea pigs without even asking your permission because had I asked even for the greatest of good things, would have been told no. And the worst part of it for you all is that you all do the same and have had not great things in mind, are often doing it unintentionally and unknowingly until its pointed out which makes you all far more hypocritical than I. The worst part? Even in attempts such as this to show ego and vanity and narcissism, I still drop the ball and cant even be those things because of the truth that rings through.

You honestly think i could never understand what its like to want to have never existed at all, but thats only because you have not seen where i have been and where ive come from. I got tired of wanting things that couldnt be true and wasting my time and so got busy making my existence be worth something for me being here regardless of want.

My karma is infinite. The karma banks would never have been able to pay off all the good karma ive accrued and still accrue. Its like powet to the nth degree or tenure. I can do whatever the fuck i want to and still have it bring good karma. i could even accrue bad karma for years and for the way things are would still only be good karma.

What you hate the most is that i have every right to tear you down and destroy you, i tried to lift you up, tried not to cut you down and you resented me for it. As meek and as weak as you felt, as lost to insecurity and self hate as you might have been, my every action has thus far caused you to turn on me and fight me while i have tried to be about so many things other than fighting.

You and others literally cause all your own damage as you blame me for it. You swing on me, shoot at me, stab at me, and have your own momentum returned to you in such a way as to cause your own black eyes, own bullet wounds, own stabbings and furthermore blame me and hate me because i am faultless.

I am better than you. That is not ego. In so many others those words spoken that way would be ego. In others, I, me, my would be empty narcissism instead of talking about ones life or using oneself as an example. In others, claiming to be beautiful would be nothing more than empty vanity, yet in me is just an expression of truth for having long seen myself to be ugly and what should i care about any of it making you feel worse when you feel worse only by comparing where you are now to where ive wound up after years of hard damn works that have made me earn every bit of who i am.

Do not expect me to care or sympathize with you as you attack me. Do not expect mercy. I am the storm, yes, but you and others have been the shit upon it. You have made yourselves shit and would have me blame myself for my own existence which i had no say in the matter of for your reactions to my existence. I am not to blame for the actions or reactions of others as they shirk personal responsibility.
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Re: Truth

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Nov 10, 2016 6:49 pm

You have a routine

Your routine is a fiction

And not even an amusing one

Lack of self awareness is a serious issue with you

Example 1: walls of text for every reply
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Re: Truth

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:25 pm

Random Factor wrote:How are you good people, define that. society is made up of more than make the laws and enact them and there are people fighting on those levels already to seeming ineffective ends.

We do not have nazi laws as far as i can see, just no way to enforce the laws equally, no way to know, individual to individual whether justice is meted out fairly or not. At the core of it, the legal system and justice system fall short due to the lack of honor and honesty of the citizens. Our governments both federal and state fall short due to the lack of responsibility of the citizens, that they are citizens leading citizens and citizens punishing citizens and citizens judging citizens to the point where even crime becomes a viable method of survival.

So, i change society citizen by citizen in many ways through interaction just the same as everyone else. you are not good people otherwise you would never have argued and fought as you have against me and would not claim so easily now to ve good people. Your dna ideas are largely impossible, largely unnecessary and will lead more to defects and faulty genetics if they are more than just bullshit said by you to make you look like youre doing more than sitting there keeping people down on the internet.

I am obviously a good person. Good people do not do to me what you have done. Good people do not make false claims of unviable research even if genetic engineering could be found to be ethical, which it can be, but not the way youve claimed to want to go about it.

Yawn.

All ego, if not ego, replace it with some other word. Enlightened ego I guess.
Bullshit bullshit bullshit.
By your own standards you are not a good person, remember you threatened to kill me because I asked for evidence that your sentience theory is true.
What you do is, threaten mayhem and murder with anyone who tries to debate you in an empirical manner, then claim "I am saving society from Science, because there is more to society than the empirical method"
Look, I get it and agree, there are other truths that cannot be explained with the scientific method, but you still suck at what it is you do, and I'm not sure what it is you do, which seems to be - Complain about how big of a struggle your life is/was, how none of us could survive in your shoes, then say how great your life is and how much positive karma you have. Then some vague ramblings about the shitness of the world and futility of things, but it never really leads to a complete conclusion or revelation. Then going out of your way to troll and insult other people in other people's threads, then complaining about trolls and people who troll in other people's threads. Basically, you are like America personified, that is why you can't recognize admit to their Nazi laws.
You are opposed to the DnA machine because you are corrupted by the world, most of it filled with sheeple and CNN types. They are midget minds, adverse to progress.
Not being allowed to smoke weed is a Nazi law, Not being allowed to marry a horse is a Nazi law (it's supposedly "animal rights" yet horses are forced and bred into slavery and cattles and cows are butchered...society is utter hyprocrasy, horses are not allowed to have loving relationships with humans in half the country, yet trapping animals in cages and butchering them is not considered animal abuse)
Second in America you are not allowed to defend your property - Nanny state Garbage
Garbage society, garbage world, garbage rules. It's all a bunch of dirty broken Garbage supported by garbage.

Third I cannot forgive your opposition to the DnA machine which will cure blindness, cancer, ugliness and sexual frustration, It will create Enlightenement and Bigger brains, it will stop political corruption and bring endless joy wealth and prosperity, it will also save us from the hell and damnation of "The Upload" and yet you are opposed to this - you are an opponent to all that is good. You probably don't even know what "The Upload" even refers to.
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Re: Truth

Postby The Eternal Warrior » Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:35 pm

No, i threatened to kill you for how you asked me to prove it, and it was not a threat but an expression of anger because your request wasnt a request but a condescending insult meant to make my theory seem silly when it wasnt as you now try in the mind to actually misconstrue, as this is thought and typed, me to be crying about you doing so, making fun of me seemingly being helpless to stop you from doing so, and then attribute to it other false perceptions as you show in the mind and spirit to many viewers just how much power you have.

How much do i have to call you out on to psychologically break you enough to render you ineffective?
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Re: Truth

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:51 pm

Random Factor wrote:No, i threatened to kill you for how you asked me to prove it, and it was not a threat but an expression of anger because your request wasnt a request but a condescending insult meant to make my theory seem silly when it wasnt as you now try in the mind to actually misconstrue, as this is thought and typed, me to be crying about you doing so, making fun of me seemingly being helpless to stop you from doing so, and then attribute to it other false perceptions as you show in the mind and spirit to many viewers just how much power you have.

How much do i have to call you out on to psychologically break you enough to render you ineffective?

You are desperately trying to break me but you are no Bane, not even a lanky Joker. You are a Black Mask.
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Re: Truth

Postby The Eternal Warrior » Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:01 pm

Im not even desperate. Im calm and patient, never panic, never fear, never break form. just steady, determined and completely unshakeable. There is no denying my pace.
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