Sons of Interny

Fixed_Cross · October 19, 2016, 4:36pm

Its a land, the internet, with borders made out of human limits. Very far, remote borders that no one will want to even approach - what lies behind it… is basements. The world of basements is the neighboring state.

iambiguous · October 19, 2016, 4:44pm

Okay, cite some examples of how this is relevant to your own life.

Also, what is the practical import of this observation when we are confronted with a context in which there are conflicting options?

Or is this another exercise in irony.

Fixed_Cross · October 19, 2016, 4:50pm

hello popla, I am in my life now.
welcome to my thread.
Put some real life in it sukka. None of this Iambiguous dry cuntiness.

some things happening on the internet now.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umRRCkspaQU[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJQ1Odf1FSo[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fE_yHEerok[/youtube]

iambiguous · October 19, 2016, 5:00pm

Note to others:

It seems that he is permitted to misconstrue my irony but I am not permitted to misconstrue his.

Well, at least he has confirmed that this is all it is.

Fixed_Cross · October 19, 2016, 7:04pm

Fixed_Cross · October 19, 2016, 7:07pm

Ive never met a guy with so little to say as you Iambiguous - not one who was so eager to make it clear to the whole world that he has nothing to say.
Then again, may be you are just the first True Moderner that trolls me.

These “others” - are you when you are going through your daily own-thread-refresh routine for half an hour, arent they?

I know. Im psychic.

Fixed_Cross · October 19, 2016, 7:20pm

Fixed_Cross · October 19, 2016, 7:23pm

For those who dont know, like this guy over here, what this is all about.

the internet:

The Internet is the global system of interconnected computer networks that use the Internet protocol suite (TCP/IP) to link devices worldwide. It is a network of networks that consists of private, public, academic, business, and government networks of local to global scope, linked by a broad array of electronic, wireless, and optical networking technologies. The Internet carries an extensive range of information resources and services, such as the inter-linked hypertext documents and applications of the World Wide Web (WWW), electronic mail, newsgroups, voice over IP telephony, and peer-to-peer networks for file sharing.

The origins of the Internet date back to research commissioned by the United States federal government in the 1960s to build robust, fault-tolerant communication via computer networks.[1] The primary precursor network, the ARPANET, initially served as a backbone for interconnection of regional academic and military networks in the 1980s. The funding of the National Science Foundation Network as a new backbone in the 1980s, as well as private funding for other commercial extensions, led to worldwide participation in the development of new networking technologies, and the merger of many networks.[2] The linking of commercial networks and enterprises by the early 1990s marks the beginning of the transition to the modern Internet,[3] and generated a sustained exponential growth as generations of institutional, personal, and mobile computers were connected to the network. Although the Internet was widely used by academia since the 1980s, the commercialization incorporated its services and technologies into virtually every aspect of modern life.

Internet use grew rapidly in the West from the mid-1990s and from the late 1990s in the developing world.[4] In the 20 years since 1995, Internet use has grown 100-times, measured for the period of one year, to over one third of the world population.[5][6] Most traditional communications media, including telephony, radio, television, paper mail and newspapers are being reshaped or redefined by the Internet, giving birth to new services such as email, Internet telephony, Internet television music, digital newspapers, and video streaming websites. Newspaper, book, and other print publishing are adapting to website technology, or are reshaped into blogging, web feeds and online news aggregators (e.g., Google News). The entertainment industry was initially the fastest growing segment on the Internet.[citation needed] The Internet has enabled and accelerated new forms of personal interactions through instant messaging, Internet forums, and social networking. Online shopping has grown exponentially both for major retailers and small businesses and entrepreneurs, as it enables firms to extend their “bricks and mortar” presence to serve a larger market or even sell goods and services entirely online. Business-to-business and financial services on the Internet affect supply chains across entire industries.

The Internet has no centralized governance in either technological implementation or policies for access and usage; each constituent network sets its own policies.[7] Only the overreaching definitions of the two principal name spaces in the Internet, the Internet Protocol address space and the Domain Name System (DNS), are directed by a maintainer organization, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN). The technical underpinning and standardization of the core protocols is an activity of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), a non-profit organization of loosely affiliated international participants that anyone may associate with by contributing technical expertise.[8]"

A
Internet users per 100 population members and GDP per capita for selected countries.
B
An Opte Project visualization of routing paths through a portion of the Internet

The term Internet, when used to refer to the specific global system of interconnected Internet Protocol (IP) networks, is a proper noun[9] and may be written with an initial capital letter. In common use and the media, it is often not capitalized, viz. the internet. Some guides specify that the word should be capitalized when used as a noun, but not capitalized when used as an adjective.[10] The Internet is also often referred to as the Net, as a short form of network. Historically, as early as 1849, the word internetted was used uncapitalized as an adjective, meaning interconnected or interwoven.[11] The designers of early computer networks used internet both as a noun and as a verb in shorthand form of internetwork or internetworking, meaning interconnecting computer networks.[12]

The terms Internet and World Wide Web are often used interchangeably in everyday speech; it is common to speak of “going on the Internet” when invoking a web browser to view web pages. However, the World Wide Web or the Web is only one of a large number of Internet services. The Web is a collection of interconnected documents (web pages) and other web resources, linked by hyperlinks and URLs.[13] As another point of comparison, Hypertext Transfer Protocol, or HTTP, is the language used on the Web for information transfer, yet it is just one of many languages or protocols that can be used for communication on the Internet.[14] The term Interweb is a portmanteau of Internet and World Wide Web typically used sarcastically to parody a technically unsavvy user.

The Internet Messenger by Buky Schwartz in Holon, Israel.

Research into packet switching started in the early 1960s,[15] and packet switched networks such as the ARPANET, CYCLADES,[16][17] the Merit Network,[18] NPL network,[19] Tymnet, and Telenet, were developed in the late 1960s and 1970s using a variety of protocols.[20] The ARPANET project led to the development of protocols for internetworking, by which multiple separate networks could be joined into a single network of networks.[21] ARPANET development began with two network nodes which were interconnected between the Network Measurement Center at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) Henry Samueli School of Engineering and Applied Science directed by Leonard Kleinrock, and the NLS system at SRI International (SRI) by Douglas Engelbart in Menlo Park, California, on 29 October 1969.[22] The third site was the Culler-Fried Interactive Mathematics Center at the University of California, Santa Barbara, followed by the University of Utah Graphics Department. In an early sign of future growth, fifteen sites were connected to the young ARPANET by the end of 1971.[23][24] These early years were documented in the 1972 film Computer Networks: The Heralds of Resource Sharing.

Early international collaborations on the ARPANET were rare. European developers were concerned with developing the X.25 networks.[25] Notable exceptions were the Norwegian Seismic Array (NORSAR) in June 1973, followed in 1973 by Sweden with satellite links to the Tanum Earth Station and Peter T. Kirstein’s research group in the United Kingdom, initially at the Institute of Computer Science, University of London and later at University College London.[26][27][28] In December 1974, RFC 675 (Specification of Internet Transmission Control Program), by Vinton Cerf, Yogen Dalal, and Carl Sunshine, used the term internet as a shorthand for internetworking and later RFCs repeated this use.[29] Access to the ARPANET was expanded in 1981 when the National Science Foundation (NSF) funded the Computer Science Network (CSNET). In 1982, the Internet Protocol Suite (TCP/IP) was standardized, which permitted worldwide proliferation of interconnected networks.
T3 NSFNET Backbone, c. 1992.

TCP/IP network access expanded again in 1986 when the National Science Foundation Network (NSFNet) provided access to supercomputer sites in the United States for researchers, first at speeds of 56 kbit/s and later at 1.5 Mbit/s and 45 Mbit/s.[30] Commercial Internet service providers (ISPs) emerged in the late 1980s and early 1990s. The ARPANET was decommissioned in 1990. By 1995, the Internet was fully commercialized in the U.S. when the NSFNet was decommissioned, removing the last restrictions on use of the Internet to carry commercial traffic.[31] The Internet rapidly expanded in Europe and Australia in the mid to late 1980s[32][33] and to Asia in the late 1980s and early 1990s.[34] The beginning of dedicated transatlantic communication between the NSFNET and networks in Europe was established with a low-speed satellite relay between Princeton University and Stockholm, Sweden in December 1988.[35] Although other network protocols such as UUCP had global reach well before this time, this marked the beginning of the Internet as an intercontinental network.

Slightly over a year later in March 1990, the first high-speed T1 (1.5 Mbit/s) link between the NSFNET and Europe was installed between Cornell University and CERN, allowing much more robust communications than were capable with satellites.[36] Six months later Tim Berners-Lee would begin writing WorldWideWeb, the first web browser after two years of lobbying CERN management. By Christmas 1990, Berners-Lee had built all the tools necessary for a working Web: the HyperText Transfer Protocol (HTTP) 0.9,[37] the HyperText Markup Language (HTML), the first Web browser (which was also a HTML editor and could access Usenet newsgroups and FTP files), the first HTTP server software (later known as CERN httpd), the first web server (info.cern.ch), and the first Web pages that described the project itself. Public commercial use of the Internet began in mid-1989 with the connection of MCI Mail and Compuserve’s email capabilities to the 500,000 users of the Internet. [38] Just months later on January 1, 1990, PSInet launched an alternate Internet backbone for commercial use; one of the networks that would grow into the commercial Internet we know today. In 1991 the Commercial Internet eXchange was founded, allowing PSInet to communicate with the other commercial networks CERFnet and Alternet. Since 1995 the Internet has tremendously impacted culture and commerce, including the rise of near instant communication by email, instant messaging, telephony (Voice over Internet Protocol or VoIP), two-way interactive video calls, and the World Wide Web[39] with its discussion forums, blogs, social networking, and online shopping sites. Increasing amounts of data are transmitted at higher and higher speeds over fiber optic networks operating at 1-Gbit/s, 10-Gbit/s, or more.
Worldwide Internet users 2005 2010 2014a
World population[40] 6.5 billion 6.9 billion 7.2 billion
Not using the Internet 84% 70% 60%
Using the Internet 16% 30% 40%
Users in the developing world 8% 21% 32%
Users in the developed world 51% 67% 78%
a Estimate.
Source: International Telecommunications Union.[41]

The Internet continues to grow, driven by ever greater amounts of online information and knowledge, commerce, entertainment and social networking.[42] During the late 1990s, it was estimated that traffic on the public Internet grew by 100 percent per year, while the mean annual growth in the number of Internet users was thought to be between 20% and 50%.[43] This growth is often attributed to the lack of central administration, which allows organic growth of the network, as well as the non-proprietary nature of the Internet protocols, which encourages vendor interoperability and prevents any one company from exerting too much control over the network.[44] As of 31 March 2011, the estimated total number of Internet users was 2.095 billion (30.2% of world population).[45] It is estimated that in 1993 the Internet carried only 1% of the information flowing through two-way telecommunication, by 2000 this figure had grown to 51%, and by 2007 more than 97% of all telecommunicated information was carried over the Internet.[46]

T3 NSFNET Backbone, c. 1992.

Fixed_Cross · October 19, 2016, 7:34pm

NONE WHO ARENT PROFICIENT IN INTERNETS ENTER HERE
info.cern.ch/
Welcome the internet

I Cross Son of Interwebz before even the internet, as my Father had his lab next to the Large Hadron Collider

Where I was allowed to climb in when it was off

& where the transatlantic Web was clicked into place on vast UNIX terminals.

nikhef.nl/en/business-colla … et-ams-ix/

more ancient history begins here.
businessinsider.com/what-is- … he-1950s-1

No…

I Am Your Father

Fixed_Cross · October 19, 2016, 7:47pm

early memory nursery rhyme….

Fixed_Cross · October 19, 2016, 8:00pm

When RISK was overtaking CISK he had behind him a stark competition with Motorola and IBM where many trade secrets were stolen. No wonder as fromt he same place also the Pakistani Uranium Enrichment method has been stolen, the centrifuge that was also there. Maybe still is. It was deep. Elevators and robots behind glass. Now there is an American University Campus on top.

Later when we had a computer at home at night on the mac Plus he would be designing schemes of blocks and arrows in the night with curtains and the stars shining in. It was strangely dark because of the incomprehensible schemata. I wish I could reproduce. The computer is this.

The internet The:

Reduced instruction set computing, or RISC (pronounced ‘risk’, /ɹɪsk/), is a CPU design strategy based on the insight that a simplified instruction set provides higher performance when combined with a microprocessor architecture capable of executing those instructions using fewer microprocessor cycles per instruction.[1] A computer based on this strategy is a reduced instruction set computer, also called RISC. The opposing architecture is called complex instruction set computing (CISC).

Various suggestions have been made regarding a precise definition of RISC, but the general concept is that of a system that uses a small, highly optimized set of instructions, rather than a more versatile set of instructions often found in other types of architectures. Another common trait is that RISC systems use the load/store architecture,[2] where memory is normally accessed only through specific instructions, rather than accessed as part of other instructions like add.

Although a number of systems from the 1960s and 70s have been identified as being forerunners of RISC, the modern version of the design dates to the 1980s. In particular, two projects at Stanford University and University of California, Berkeley are most associated with the popularization of this concept. Stanford’s design would go on to be commercialized as the successful MIPS architecture, while Berkeley’s RISC gave its name to the entire concept, commercialized as the SPARC. Another success from this era were IBM’s efforts that eventually led to the Power Architecture. As these projects matured, a wide variety of similar designs flourished in the late 1980s and especially the early 1990s, representing a major force in the Unix workstation market as well as embedded processors in laser printers, routers and similar products.

Fixed_Cross · October 19, 2016, 8:29pm

[16:25] <piet_> okee nou anywa
[16:25] <piet_> ik was bij de Markt
[16:25] <piet_> bij de sigareboer, slager, bakker, visboer en snoephandel
[16:26] <piet_> kont er een tsjikkert op me af stappen zegt ze he snoet, gaan we doen
[16:26] <piet_> zeg ik snoep kopen scharrebarrel, kom je mee?
[16:26] <piet_> dus wij drop eten op het hek
[16:26] <piet_> begint ze me ineens te zoenen
[16:26] <piet_> met drop in dr kop
[16:26] <piet_> was lekker
[16:26] <piet_> ^^
[16:27] <piet_> ik dacxht ik breng m effe
[16:27] <piet_> ^^
[16:27] <piet_> ^^
[16:27] <piet_> we hebben de peren, de appels en de zore bessen
[16:27] <piet_> nu nog de limo en het rietje

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iambiguous · October 19, 2016, 10:36pm

Come on, even if I did have nothing to say, that’s still twice as much as you do.

And how’s that for being ironic?!!

You know, if it’s even possible.

MagsJ · October 21, 2016, 7:23pm

I always like that you hold your own Iam… high five baby!

iambiguous · October 21, 2016, 7:27pm

On the other hand, look what I’m up against.

He said in jest.

Fixed_Cross · October 22, 2016, 4:44pm

Imapiquus, equus… good to have your memes.
please post your entire copy paste meme scheme.

Fixed_Cross · October 22, 2016, 4:54pm

Sigh - well Magsj if thats how you feel about this dudes trolling of all my threads… Ill leave you guys to it.

A mod validating a remark by a troll that I have said less than nothing is … sick.

Youre all welcome.

Enjoy your sanitized ILP.

iambiguous · October 22, 2016, 8:26pm

The Groots?

Okay:

1] I was raised in the belly of the working class beast. My family/community were very conservative. Abortion was a sin. Both in and out of church.
2] I was drafted into the Army and while on my “tour of duty” in Vietnam I happened upon politically radical folks who reconfigured my thinking about abortion. And God and lots of other things.
3] after I left the Army, I enrolled in college and became further involved in left wing politics. It was all the rage back then. I became a feminist. I married a feminist. I wholeheartedly embraced a woman’s right to choose.
4] then came the calamity with Mary and John. I loved them both but their engagement was foundering on the rocks that was Mary’s choice to abort their unborn baby.
5] back and forth we all went. I supported Mary but I could understand the points that John was making. I could understand the arguments being made on both sides. John was right from his side and Mary was right from hers.
6] I read William Barrett’s Irrational Man and came upon his conjectures regarding “rival goods”.
7] Then, over time, I abandoned an objectivist frame of mind that revolved around Marxism/feminism. Instead, I became more and more embedded in existentialism. And then as more years passed I became an advocate for moral nihilism.

1] I am rational
2] I am rational because I have access to the ideal
3] I have access to the ideal because I grasp the one true nature of the objective world
4] I grasp the one true nature of the objective world because I am rational

If I am always of the opinion that 1] my own values are rooted in dasein and 2] that there are no objective values “I” can reach, then every time I make one particular moral/political leap, I am admitting that I might have gone in the other direction…or that I might just as well have gone in the other direction. Then “I” begins to fracture and fragment to the point there is nothing able to actually keep it all together. At least not with respect to choosing sides morally and politically.

She has radical and continuing doubts about the final vocabulary she currently uses, because she has been impressed by other vocabularies, vocabularies taken as final by people or books she has encountered;
*She realizes that argument phrased in her present vocabulary can neither underwrite nor dissolve these doubts;
*Insofar as she philosophizes about her situation, she does not think that her vocabulary is closer to reality than others, that it is in touch with a power not herself.
Richard Rorty

1] For one reason or another [rooted largely in dasein], you are taught or come into contact with [through your upbringing, a friend, a book, an experience etc.] a worldview, a philosophy of life.

2] Over time, you become convinced that this perspective expresses and encompasses the most rational and objective truth. This truth then becomes increasingly more vital, more essential to you as a foundation, a justification, a celebration of all that is moral as opposed to immoral, rational as opposed to irrational.

3] Eventually, for some, they begin to bump into others who feel the same way; they may even begin to actively seek out folks similarly inclined to view the world in a particular way.

4] Some begin to share this philosophy with family, friends, colleagues, associates, Internet denizens; increasingly it becomes more and more a part of their life. It becomes, in other words, more intertwined in their personal relationships with others…it begins to bind them emotionally and psychologically.

5] As yet more time passes, they start to feel increasingly compelled not only to share their Truth with others but, in turn, to vigorously defend it against any and all detractors as well.

6] For some, it can reach the point where they are no longer able to realistically construe an argument that disputes their own as merely a difference of opinion; they see it instead as, for all intents and purposes, an attack on their intellectual integrity…on their very Self.

7] Finally, a stage is reached [again for some] where the original philosophical quest for truth, for wisdom has become so profoundly integrated into their self-identity [professionally, socially, psychologically, emotionally] defending it has less and less to do with philosophy at all. And certainly less and less to do with “logic”.

There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don’t know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don’t know we don’t know. Don Rumsfeld

On the other hand, you’ve now seen the last of them, right?

iambiguous · October 22, 2016, 8:40pm

Is this true? Have I been trolling all of your threads.

Okay, let’s examine, say, your last 50 posts here at ILP: search.php?author_id=37292&sr=posts

How many of them did I troll?

And why don’t I register here – beforethelight.forumotion.com/t499-feoh – and troll you there too?

Hopefully this is all just reflective of a particular “fit of pique” that has prompted you – in the moment – to lash out like this. I for one certainly do not want you to vacate the premises. I look forward to your contributions here and would truly miss them if they’re gone.

You are, after all, one of the few left here to do battle with the Kids.