It is a typological marker for INTJs, his MBTI type. Results are skewed a bit cause of his STD, but he sits within the larger spectrum and his ideas, well, perhaps not his “ideas”, next to nothing is original in him, but his method to selecting, consolidating and asserting seems rather generic for the type.
I’m a INTJ too and not too impressed with him, I stumble upon books often- read a lot of classical and Medieval/Renaissance philosophy, and when it seems too damn familiar, I Google it’s title with Nietzsche’s name to see if anyone else noticed it too, all too often he sourced from it, sometimes plagerized. He never really seems to get the books he takes from, or takes the foulest ideas. I’m not exactly inspired by his reading at this point. He did like any INTJ interested in the history and nature of philosophy would do- he systematically searched for the greatest classics in history, age by age (as known in his era) and developed a categorical topos.
My background is in religions and military history and military science in particular, such as works on strategy, tactics, statecraft, diplomacy, economics, mirrors for princes, etc… As a INTJ I’m naturally attracted to another INTJ like Machiavelli, which both Nietzsche and I praise seperately- I knew of Machiavelli long before Nietzsche, but Machiavelli had a healthier INTJ style approach to hands on, while also abstracted a finger in every pie approach to research.
I can push it back to other thinkers as well, but I will say I generally look down on Nietzsche, as he seems to be a noon, too overly impressed with a handful of representative thinkers, but he never really explored the literature in a way you would expect a trained philologist to do. I’ve read hundreds of works on the subject, he did a handful, and it was enough for him to rush to judgment. I would of preferred it had he been more self critical and scholastically expansive, double checking his ideas further in other authors.
No, he doesn’t represent a hyperboreal wave. He represents the impulse aspect of a INTJ to get overly excited and run with things. I’ve always have this instinct too, but I double down on methodology as well, and make certain I’m the technical expert on all matters, unequaled. I have to be the very best, and am very aware the mark of failure can be my or other’s death in a misinterpretation or poorly considered assertion sooner, or down the road, by generations or centuries. The new paganism is largely fraudulent, it isn’t based on classical pagan values, most classical Greeks would be appalled by some of the shit advocated by modern thinkers… people have blurred concepts of “what was”, far too romaticized, on how this so called golden age worked. It thinks Christianity killed it, when the truth is, Christianity absorbed most of it in, what didn’t contradict the creed. One example being the marriage laws- people think Christians invented that… no, that was pure paganism, the formulations in the Bible damn near parallel what was already inshrined in custom and lawacross the empire, but the modern war against the Christian religion is a war against pagan institutions, stupid potsmokers sitting around wiccan tree circles don’t know this in their idealized retelling of how things really were like. It so fucking wasn’t the ways I hear it too often said, and I can usually point to several surviving, continuing representatives of those ideas in Christianity, Judiasm, or Islam… nobody wants it then.
This is what happens when you mistake differences between personality types for a evolutionary effect on and through history. Most societies have a diverse array of thinking styles, it isn’t “willed” it just is, it is how our species is naturally diversified. We’ve always have had this “hyperborian wave” in every era, it’s just the basal ganglia getting excited on dopamine, creating crude ideas, that typically are shallow and blow up. It is always a new phenomena, because it attracts the youth more. Look at the hippies, they are all geriatrics, but you still have the hippy scene in golden gate park, same as it always was, but it is new to them, the young. They were doing this shit in the dark ages as well, other countries did it too, well outside of the Greek or German influence. Very little has been “resurrected”, but a lot has been mistaken and we’ve created a few Frankenstein’s.
Nothing actually results from this longterm. Societies that do this too carelessly experience population declines and weakening of their strategic positions, they become more careless and impulsive, fanatical to defining beliefs, and push away more and more of the other cognitive styles in society away. This is the mark of the disease, and everything declines as a result. Look at Europe, it is declining BECAUSE of Nietzsche, his theories were just as influential under Fascism as the Liberal era after. Nihilism doesn’t exist, but society actively suppressing large segments of the population from having a effective influence does have a declining effect. We have different personality types for a reason, we need them to work together in unison, nobody can carry a operation consciously in full from start to finish, we are only aware of our actions so far, and other personality types excel in areas we don’t. A democracy or republic naturally should be the most open to this process organically, but it doesn’t work in the era of Progressive Liberal politics we have, a lot of people are forced into mundane isolation or told to shut up and keep quiet, as they are incorrect, or even illegal in countries where there is no real freedom of speech. Others into dependent socialism, politically dependent on a patron, unable to build themselves into a politically representative force themselves.
In some ways, the Ottoman Mittal System was sadly more Democratic than what modern progressive attitudes promote, at least they had the mandate to form their own outlook, figure out what their priorities were, and make a show of asserting it. That system was seriously flawed, but allowed a wider range of cognitive inclusion. In a merit system, it allowed for a wide range of thinkers we never would allow to go mainstream climb to the top of government just below the sultan. A truly Dionysian philosophy, like in Sri Lanka, or the beekeepers that came from Asia Minor and spread across the greek islands that preserved that philosophy, were deathly conservative. They were not innovators, quite the opposite, they ritualized it and contained it, isolated it in a festival with a mystery religion attached that few intellectually grasped. It wasn’t their mainstay, but something they did rarely. It is the very reason the Dionysian religion is still around in a very fossilized form in Sri Lanka. We didn’t resurrect the old ways of thinking, or even invent something new, but merely reasserted the awareness of a handful of cognitive styes over others, segregated them (how many fools on this forum have attacked christians, or accused one another of being so?) and now we are in a free fall collapse.
I’m conjecturing humans don’t breed in mass unless they have a fully range of cognitive styles available, active in the community. Parents don’t pass on their type to their kids, kids tend to go opposite their parents actually, we’ve evolved to maximize diversity, but there is a family potential to produce more related types over several kids in large families, (most will be either introverted or extroverted, but rarely the same kind of introvert or extravert). If a society is too overwhelmed by one thinking style, it can be harder for the randomness of birth to integrate them… look how hard it was for Nero (ISFP) to adapt to Augustan’s (INTJ) society, predicated on a delicate strategic balance. He couldn’t pass muster on it. The principate, like the Renaissance under the Medici, was a era of brilliant scholarship and art, but it was all state funded, the banking system and trade was partially monopolized by the ruling dynasty in a half-republic, half monarchy, it demanded just one kind of thinker, if you lacked it, state fell apart. A state shouldn’t fall apart so easily, you need both Nero types and Augustan types, but that only works if you have many others to bridge them, port the ideas between them till it makes sense. If you don’t, society begins to decline, lots of lost opportunity for the young- high ranking families produce dissapointing children who only get positions through nepotism, otherwise unfit. Lots of good people are pressed out of the decision making process, sidelined. Too many of the same type of thinkers running things can likewise make it feel incestous… Even if your not related, if everyone has the exact same personality type as you, your going to share important cognitive genes expressing those traits. Some interbreeding is good, but like with crop rotation, you gotta constantly introduce new kinds of mindsets into that romantic pool.
If you can look at a civilization and say “they thought in just this way” like with Egyptian vs Greek art, it shows a scary trend. They solidified, society hunkered down, and were no longer in flux, so were no longer adaptive. It is a kind of incest, and it will drive many to new religions, or just to leave, if the society no longer fulfils them. Prussia pushed a lot of people out, and it produced a lot of crazy ideas, Nietzsche isn’t half of it. It ended up killing them in WW1. Nietzsche has been killing them ever since WW2, people are still pointlessly pushed out. It is less about the ideas, than the seemingly eternal personality types that process them. Every civilization has produced a mix.
Nietzscheans are just another recent symptom of a very long lasting disease, one that we have yet fully pass through our system. They don’t represent change but more of the same, more ignorant of the larger game being played than past civilizations, because they are less honest about it, assuming them know better. Of course they don’t know better, they attract drug users and idiots, very few true intellectuals capable of forming their own ideas.
