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Bless God

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:32 am
by Fixed Cross
And His Son
The Holy Jesus Christ
Lord and Savior of All Sinners
Can we get a A-Men
Can we get a Yes Sir

The Mighty Lord Gave us Life, Love and Languid Afternoon hours with tea and a cool breeze

So bless his mighty name and keep him off the books

No Taxes For God
No Death For God

Amen, Aum, Ohm and Ampere

Bring the voltage
Bless, Jesus Bless

Mary keep an eye out on your son, he's a wild one!

Wolves and the Meat of John -
Next time friends,
Join your heart in congregation to meet
The Lord
and have him Bless the tree of Life.

Re: Bless God

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:46 am
by Dan~
No Taxes For God
No Death For God


I think we need to be served by a godhead moreso than we need to serve and worship a godhead.

If God is at the top of the game, he doesn't have needs. He is beyond rich. So why should the poor give him money?

Re: Bless God

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:47 am
by James S Saint
Does that have a tune to go along with it? 8-[

Re: Bless God

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:26 am
by Fixed Cross
James S Saint wrote:Does that have a tune to go along with it? 8-[

Yes, thank you.
I realized after posting that that might not be obvious.

Re: Bless God

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:58 am
by Antithesis
And let's not forget that puff King David, bless his ass.

Re: Bless God

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 3:17 pm
by Ierrellus
At first, I wondered if the Op was pure sarcasm. Maybe not. Forgive me, but I'm slow. I think best of religious leaders, East and West, have concluded that God is a way, not a person.

Re: Bless God

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 3:21 pm
by turtle
Ierrellus wrote:At first, I wondered if the Op was pure sarcasm. Maybe not. Forgive me, but I'm slow. I think best of religious leaders, East and West, have concluded that God is a way, not a person.


ier---can you explain more about ---god is the way...what way

Re: Bless God

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 3:39 pm
by Ierrellus
turtle wrote:
Ierrellus wrote:At first, I wondered if the Op was pure sarcasm. Maybe not. Forgive me, but I'm slow. I think best of religious leaders, East and West, have concluded that God is a way, not a person.


ier---can you explain more about ---god is the way...what way

Jesus, the Tao, etc. etc.

Re: Bless God

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 3:49 pm
by turtle
Ierrellus wrote:
turtle wrote:
Ierrellus wrote:At first, I wondered if the Op was pure sarcasm. Maybe not. Forgive me, but I'm slow. I think best of religious leaders, East and West, have concluded that God is a way, not a person.


ier---can you explain more about ---god is the way...what way

Jesus, the Tao, etc. etc.


are you referring to the human jesus or the divine Christ...

Re: Bless God

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 3:55 pm
by Ierrellus
Both are one thing. But I'd say the same about Lao Tse , Buddha, and Confucius (SIC).

Re: Bless God

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 3:58 pm
by turtle
Ierrellus wrote:Both are one thing. But I'd say the same about Lao Tse , Buddha, and Confucius (SIC).

not really....if you believe in jesus as god ..you behave much differently than if you believe jesus was a guy...the bible says two ways...and the bible was written by guys

Re: Bless God

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 4:28 pm
by Ierrellus
turtle wrote:
Ierrellus wrote:Both are one thing. But I'd say the same about Lao Tse , Buddha, and Confucius (SIC).

not really....if you believe in jesus as god ..you behave much differently than if you believe jesus was a guy...the bible says two ways...and the bible was written by guys

Not really. It was Jesus the man God who came up with the Sermon on the Mount. It was Confucious who came up with, among others, the Golden Rule. These are not the average philosphies of the man on the street.

Re: Bless God

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:25 pm
by turtle
Ierrellus wrote:
turtle wrote:
Ierrellus wrote:Both are one thing. But I'd say the same about Lao Tse , Buddha, and Confucius (SIC).

not really....if you believe in jesus as god ..you behave much differently than if you believe jesus was a guy...the bible says two ways...and the bible was written by guys

Not really. It was Jesus the man God who came up with the Sermon on the Mount. It was Confucious who came up with, among others, the Golden Rule. These are not the average philosphies of the man on the street.

ier--it involves choice...which jesus do you follow

Re: Bless God

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:08 pm
by Arcturus Descending
turtle wrote:
Ierrellus wrote:Both are one thing. But I'd say the same about Lao Tse , Buddha, and Confucius (SIC).

not really....if you believe in jesus as god ..you behave much differently than if you believe jesus was a guy...the bible says two ways...and the bible was written by guys


Well, maybe you can separate the two, but if you hold them both as one, as both human and divine, I would say that that would be a mighty beacon to be guided by. Here you have your god and here you have a human, who was just as human as you. The human part one can identify with more being that you are human more so than the divine part.

For those who do believe.

Re: Bless God

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:22 pm
by turtle
Arcturus Descending wrote:
turtle wrote:
Ierrellus wrote:Both are one thing. But I'd say the same about Lao Tse , Buddha, and Confucius (SIC).

not really....if you believe in jesus as god ..you behave much differently than if you believe jesus was a guy...the bible says two ways...and the bible was written by guys


Well, maybe you can separate the two, but if you hold them both as one, as both human and divine, I would say that that would be a mighty beacon to be guided by. Here you have your god and here you have a human, who was just as human as you. The human part one can identify with more being that you are human more so than the divine part.

For those who do believe.


I didn't separate the two...they did that at the council of nicea in 325 ad...the split is still in the church...I see it in my church with my own little turtle eyes...

Re: Bless God

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:52 pm
by Arcturus Descending
Mary keep an eye out on your son, he's a wild one!


:lol: That was my favorite part of all.

Re: Bless God

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:49 pm
by Dan~
Ierrellus wrote:At first, I wondered if the Op was pure sarcasm. Maybe not. Forgive me, but I'm slow. I think best of religious leaders, East and West, have concluded that God is a way, not a person.

The way of all nature, perhaps.

Re: Bless God

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:29 pm
by Ierrellus
Jesus never said, "worship me"; he said "follow me."
"God became as we are so that we could become as God is."

Re: Bless God

PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:54 pm
by Fixed Cross
Ierrellus wrote:At first, I wondered if the Op was pure sarcasm. Maybe not. Forgive me, but I'm slow. I think best of religious leaders, East and West, have concluded that God is a way, not a person.

And what is a person if not a way?

Re: Bless God

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:17 am
by turtle
we don't know anything about gods...it is all belief

Re: Bless God

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:30 am
by James S Saint
Reality definitely has a personality.
To tell ancient people and their offspring to not refer to it as a "person" is pushing one's authority.

Re: Bless God

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:07 pm
by zinnat
turtle wrote:we don't know anything about gods...it is all belief


That is only partially true.
There were and are also some indivisuals, to whom it was/is not a matter of mere belief, but hard personal evidence.
This minority was considerd as an authority in the past. That is from where other gather their belief.
Having said that, still there is a possibility of the presence of some cons there in that elite group.

It is up to an individual to discern and choose.

with love,
sanjay

Re: Bless God

PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:50 pm
by turtle
zinnat13 wrote:
turtle wrote:we don't know anything about gods...it is all belief


That is only partially true.
There were and are also some indivisuals, to whom it was/is not a matter of mere belief, but hard personal evidence.
This minority was considerd as an authority in the past. That is from where other gather their belief.
Having said that, still there is a possibility of the presence of some cons there in that elite group.

It is up to an individual to discern and choose.

with love,
sanjay


sanjay---can you say more about the "hard personal evidence".....are you talking about facts or science or what....thanks from harry

Re: Bless God

PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:04 pm
by iambiguous
turtle wrote:sanjay---can you say more about the "hard personal evidence".....are you talking about facts or science or what...


One suspects s/he is talking about personal anecdotes. The kind where someone is convinced they had a particular experience but does not have the "hard evidence" to convince everyone else.

Re: Bless God

PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:38 pm
by zinnat
turtle wrote:
zinnat13 wrote:
turtle wrote:we don't know anything about gods...it is all belief


That is only partially true.
There were and are also some indivisuals, to whom it was/is not a matter of mere belief, but hard personal evidence.
This minority was considerd as an authority in the past. That is from where other gather their belief.
Having said that, still there is a possibility of the presence of some cons there in that elite group.

It is up to an individual to discern and choose.

with love,
sanjay


sanjay---can you say more about the "hard personal evidence".....are you talking about facts or science or what....thanks from harry


Turtle,

The assumption of lambiguopus is more or less right, except of the term anecdotes.
Those may be stories to else, but not for me. at least.

It is a long post so i am providing a link below-
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=181854#p2376825

Go through it. Now, suppose just for the sake of an argument that i am not lying, what should i believe; what others say or what i personally experienced?

with love,
sanjay