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Re: Who here is an alpha male?

Postby Jakob » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:25 pm

fuse wrote:So if Silhouette is off base with his idea of an alpha male, can we get some alternate conceptions?

Physically strong and fit, creatively expansionistic on the behalf of the group and therefore rewarded with the attentions of the highest ranked women.
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Re: Who here is an alpha male?

Postby Silhouette » Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:28 pm

Amazing. Thanks for resurrecting this old fossil.

It's hard to think that I made this topic as anything more than a troll to the KT trolls at the time, but no doubt I thought there was truth enough to it as to make something of it. People still respect me as a leading figure now though never in the name of something that I am passionate about, and I've completely fallen out of the sexual market place since I made the thread...

I've since heard that the whole notion of alpha male was abandoned by the very man who came up with the term - turns out the alpha was just the father or something - yet it still means something to people, or at least resonates with their imaginations...

What then does it mean to people and/or how do they imagine the "alpha" to be? Strong, fit, creatively expansionistic on behalf of the group? Sure. Maybe I would reduce strength to "fitness" in the more broad sense, and "creatively expansionistic" - I would say that both of these are a necessity for more than just "the alpha" for society. It would seem that we accept that there are plural alphas within society, which somewhat diminishes the term, but doesn't invalidate it I guess. Leaders? "The more attractive"? I think there are better terms than alpha. I probably dismissed those who echoed such sentiments at the time, ha.
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Re: Who here is an alpha male?

Postby surreptitious75 » Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:58 am

fuse wrote:
So if Silhouette is off base with his idea of an alpha male can we get some alternate conceptions

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Re: Who here is an alpha male?

Postby Silhouette » Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:10 am

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fuse wrote:
So if Silhouette is off base with his idea of an alpha male can we get some alternate conceptions

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Re: Who here is an alpha male?

Postby MagsJ » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:16 am

surreptitious75 wrote:
fuse wrote:
So if Silhouette is off base with his idea of an alpha male can we get some alternate conceptions

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..the modern definition of an alpha male? and there was I, only always ever citing looks height and intelligence in my fantasy partner wish-list.
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Re: Who here is an alpha male?

Postby Silhouette » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:10 am

MagsJ wrote:
surreptitious75 wrote:
fuse wrote:
So if Silhouette is off base with his idea of an alpha male can we get some alternate conceptions

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..the modern definition of an alpha male? and there was I, only always ever citing looks height and intelligence in my fantasy partner wish-list.

In terms of what women seem to want, you seem to value height above all else - willing to compromise on looks and intelligence to a significant degree when it comes to reality and not just a wish-list. Don't believe me?

Pick A, B or C:
a) 5'10, nice looks, 140 IQ
b) 5'10, hot as fuck, 100 IQ
c) 6'6, nice looks, 100 IQ

If you say A you're lying for public show or you're settling for what you can get/don't know what you're getting into, you know you wouldn't have anything more than a fling with B unless you're equally shallow, but C at worst is rejected because there's too much competition between you and other females....

surreptitious has listed what guys tend to want in themselves to feel like a man, but it's amusing how little of his list is actually required to be attractive to a female. Yeah you can be tall and goofy, and get nothing. Yeah not only tall guys get all the female attention, but I know enough guys who're short who have to seriously make up for that to even get a look-in.

Pseudo-seriously taking this thread again: alpha? Be tall with little more than averageness in other respects.
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Re: Who here is an alpha male?

Postby A Shieldmaiden » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:46 am

Having fun Satyr with the "herd"?

https://youtu.be/3M68wcB6L0s

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Re: Who here is an alpha male?

Postby MagsJ » Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:03 pm

Silhouette wrote:
MagsJ wrote:..the modern definition of an alpha male? and there was I, only always ever citing looks height and intelligence in my fantasy partner wish-list.

In terms of what women seem to want, you seem to value height above all else - willing to compromise on looks and intelligence to a significant degree when it comes to reality and not just a wish-list. Don't believe me?

Pick A, B or C:
a) 5'10, nice looks, 140 IQ
b) 5'10, hot as fuck, 100 IQ
c) 6'6, nice looks, 100 IQ

If you say A you're lying for public show or you're settling for what you can get/don't know what you're getting into, you know you wouldn't have anything more than a fling with B unless you're equally shallow, but C at worst is rejected because there's too much competition between you and other females....

I would not choose, nor would I have a fling with, any of the above males.. better to be content alone, than to make an attempt at it that is doomed to fail.. my years of single status is testament to that.

surreptitious has listed what guys tend to want in themselves to feel like a man, but it's amusing how little of his list is actually required to be attractive to a female. Yeah you can be tall and goofy, and get nothing. Yeah not only tall guys get all the female attention, but I know enough guys who're short who have to seriously make up for that to even get a look-in.

Pseudo-seriously taking this thread again: alpha? Be tall with little more than averageness in other respects.

My thinking was that the height looks and intelligence combination.. taken as a bare minimum, would be infilled with qualities acquired throughout their life (such as those shared, in surreptitious' list) up until the point of meeting.
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Re: Who here is an alpha male?

Postby Ecmandu » Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:20 pm

MagsJ would be called a "shoulder girl", women who look for men who they're shoulder height to.

The broad picture is that this is a zero sum reality, non consensual at that... this reality itself is evil by nature.

Women objectify more than men do. What's funny is that 2% of men get almost ALL the female partners in terms of diversity, and then, having sown their wild oats, settle for someone. It's not that men are hornier than women, it's that women are more satiated than most men.

What's funny about women criticizing men who objectify them, is that they cause the problem by only fucking rich dudes who are tall with big dicks.

Rich means the most

Women also only have sex with the three abuses of the species:

1.) proclivity to marry (slave/master mentality)
2.) sexual jealousy (if a woman has sex with another man, she will leave you if you either don't beat the shit out of her or the man she slept with)
3.) approach escalation: women have said no to all escalations - so any escalation is a no means yes scenario...

This is why men are destroying the ecosystem ... because that's all women consent to sexually
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Re: Who here is an alpha male?

Postby Arcturus Descending » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:03 pm

When it comes right down to it, the true Alpha to me is the one portrayed in the move, Alpha. Keda is his name.

He was awesome - he grew into such an awesome ALPHA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_(film)

Is Alpha really about looks and size?
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Re: Who here is an alpha male?

Postby MagsJ » Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:42 pm

Ecmandu wrote:MagsJ would be called a "shoulder girl", women who look for men who they're shoulder height to.

You have assumed that it is I who look for them...

Arcturus Descending wrote:Is Alpha really about looks and size?

Perhaps Alpha is different things to different women.. trait adjustments made, for individual needs.. males, having to be able to keep other males at bay, even after pairing.

Metropolises know no loyalty.. unlike smaller societies, and even then...
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Re: Who here is an alpha male?

Postby Silhouette » Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:25 pm

There's a difference between "alpha male" in the dreams of females (ought) and alpha males in reality (is).

There's also a difference between what females have come to learn is within their ability to attract. If they can't attract the most attractive, they adjust their expectations and preferences to avoid cognitive dissonance. If they didn't, they would all be after a much smaller number of males, with less male attention to their individual offspring than would be possible if females would "settle", which they do because that works so much better.

There's what females say they want, and what gets wanted in reality - and I trust the latter and not the former one bit, sorry.
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Re: Who here is an alpha male?

Postby MagsJ » Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:18 am

Silhouette wrote:
There's what females say they want, and what gets wanted in reality - and I trust the latter and not the former one bit, sorry.

No need to apologise..
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Re: Who here is an alpha male?

Postby lordoflight » Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:28 pm

Ecmandu wrote:MagsJ would be called a "shoulder girl", women who look for men who they're shoulder height to.

The broad picture is that this is a zero sum reality, non consensual at that... this reality itself is evil by nature.

Women objectify more than men do. What's funny is that 2% of men get almost ALL the female partners in terms of diversity, and then, having sown their wild oats, settle for someone. It's not that men are hornier than women, it's that women are more satiated than most men.

What's funny about women criticizing men who objectify them, is that they cause the problem by only fucking rich dudes who are tall with big dicks.

Rich means the most

Women also only have sex with the three abuses of the species:

1.) proclivity to marry (slave/master mentality)
2.) sexual jealousy (if a woman has sex with another man, she will leave you if you either don't beat the shit out of her or the man she slept with)
3.) approach escalation: women have said no to all escalations - so any escalation is a no means yes scenario...

This is why men are destroying the ecosystem ... because that's all women consent to sexually


While what you said is mostly correct, that isn't exactly why men destroy the ecosystem.

Men destroy the ozone mainly because they all know that if they don't work really hard to impress a woman, they will have a tougher time getting a girl. So they use gasoline instead of wind turbines because, 2 reasons. Wind turbines are weak, and makes them seem soft and caring. And there are women who say they want brutish men who don't care about the environment. And the women who say they want a man who cares about the environment, they really do care about the environment, but won't date a man unless he has money. So they use gas to make more money. Then there's the occasional guy who invents a technology that women date him for his money, and say "Oh he's such a great guy who cares about the environment." Meanwhile, someone born later, who didn't invent the technology, and who cares about the environment, is bullied at school and called gay, women try to ban the bullying and give sympathy, and some women are even willing to put out in highschool when he is young and virile, but once that person becomes an adult, and loses their neoteny, they can't get laid. And women could care less what's in that man's heart. Gravitating to the money. If you can't follow the cause of something, follow the money. Anyway that kid will grow up to a villain who could care less about the environment, and probably litters for fun just to get back at what is often a zero-sum world.
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Re: Who here is an alpha male?

Postby lordoflight » Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:32 pm

Silhouette wrote:surreptitious has listed what guys tend to want in themselves to feel like a man, but it's amusing how little of his list is actually required to be attractive to a female. Yeah you can be tall and goofy, and get nothing. Yeah not only tall guys get all the female attention, but I know enough guys who're short who have to seriously make up for that to even get a look-in.

Pseudo-seriously taking this thread again: alpha? Be tall with little more than averageness in other respects.


Agreed. Tallness is not the deciding factor, but rather, the ability to be douchey, and to fit in with a crowd. That, and money.

Again, modern civilization sees another inversion of reality: In nature it is males who stand out who get noticed. But nowadays, its about blending in, following the latest trends, not being too aggressive, and regurgitation. Mainly its about looks, men who look like models get full inboxes. But if they can't get the looks, then most women will settle for someone they will use for money. And by looks, I mean its kind of like a binary system. Men who look like 10s will get everything, 9 and 8s will get hardly anything, anything below a 7 will get nothing unless they have a big dick or money. And again, its another inversion of reality, feminists claim its men who care about looks the most, but everybody knows horny men will fuck anything, even a tree, as long as it doesn't look totally ugly. In nature its females who care about looks, and colourful glamourous males get the chicks, but again another inversion of nature colourful glamourous drag queens do it to get the dudes. During the 80's there was a brief moment where nature wasn't inverted but that time has long since passed.
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Re: Who here is an alpha male?

Postby Arcturus Descending » Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:37 pm

Arcturus Descending wrote:
Is Alpha really about looks and size?

MagsJ wrote:
Perhaps Alpha is different things to different women.. trait adjustments made, for individual needs.. males, having to be able to keep other males at bay, even after pairing.


I am not so sure about the individual needs perspective but it can be a personal perspective.

Alpha male traits to me, besides an all-around practical and great intelligence which is actually used in an intelligent way, would be ~

Bravery, like courage under fire, physical and spiritual (not religious) endurance and strength, the ability to think, strategize and act/follow through to gain powerful results, the capacity for great empathy and compassion, thorough knowledge of what his purpose and place in the world is...

I may be back with more. lol
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Sit in a cage and sing?”
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Thy summers play,
My thoughtless hand
Has brush'd away.

Am not I
A fly like thee?
Or art not thou
A man like me?

For I dance
And drink & sing:
Till some blind hand
Shall brush my wing.

If thought is life
And strength & breath:
And the want
Of thought is death;

Then am I
A happy fly,
If I live,
Or if I die”
― William Blake, Songs of Innocence and of Experience


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