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Gun freedom trumps religious freedom

Postby felix dakat » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:15 am

Gun freedom trumped religious freedom in Milwaukee when a man armed with a semi-automatic handgun opened fire on worshipers inside a Sikh temple in suburban Wisconsin on Sunday morning, killing six and critically wounding at least three. How would you feel if those murdered were members of your religious community?
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Re: Gun freedom trumps religious freedom

Postby PavlovianModel146 » Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:34 am

I'd wonder why Athiests are gathered together in a Temple like that.

In all seriousness, though, that News has affected me more profoundly than anything else I have heard this year. It's nothing short of a tragedy. Whether or not you agree with them, they are fantastic people. Do you know it is mandated by their Religion that the Churches provide food for all-comers once a week after service? This is the case in some of the churches, at least, perhaps not all.

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Re: Gun freedom trumps religious freedom

Postby tentative » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:19 am

PavlovianModel146 wrote:I'd wonder why Athiests are gathered together in a Temple like that.

In all seriousness, though, that News has affected me more profoundly than anything else I have heard this year. It's nothing short of a tragedy. Whether or not you agree with them, they are fantastic people. Do you know it is mandated by their Religion that the Churches provide food for all-comers once a week after service? This is the case in some of the churches, at least, perhaps not all.

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It amazes me seeing the disconnect in the rhetoric of fundamentalist "christians" who vociferously proclaim their nearness to God while at the same time, rattle on ominously about 'second amendment solutions', don't retreat, reload, pictures of scope sights superimposed over political opponents (Giffords), and all the other allusions to 'violence is the solution' OT references. I've been a gun user my whole life, and I'd hate to give up my weapons - but not because I fear government. If there is any shooting justified, it would be "aimed at" all these religious lunatics who would use guns to enforce their version of religion.
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Re: Gun freedom trumps religious freedom

Postby Smears » Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:01 pm

I'm with ya tent. I live in Alabama dude. There's like 8 guns for every resident of this state or something. It's insane. We also have some kind of thing going where once you get outside a major city in this state, almost everyone is a radical religious fundamentalist. Blows my mind.
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Re: Gun freedom trumps religious freedom

Postby von Rivers » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:28 pm

PavlovianModel146 wrote:Whether or not you agree with them, they are fantastic people. Do you know it is mandated by their Religion that the Churches provide food for all-comers once a week after service? This is the case in some of the churches, at least, perhaps not all.

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Christ Pav, they don't even feed you at church? At my old sinagogue we used to eat like wild boars. I swear, sometimes the service was even shortened for a feast.
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Re: Gun freedom trumps religious freedom

Postby PavlovianModel146 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:55 am

Mo_ wrote:
Christ Pav, they don't even feed you at church? At my old sinagogue we used to eat like wild boars. I swear, sometimes the service was even shortened for a feast.


I wouldn't know, I've only been inside of any Church four times in fifteen years and three of them were funerals. The other time was for this Christmas dinner thing at my Great-Grandma's Church, she begged me to go.

I do know that there were never any such things at any of the Churches I attended with frequency as a kid.
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Re: Gun freedom trumps religious freedom

Postby tentative » Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:46 am

Any organization that invites voluntary participation (churches) has to offer some immediate gratification schtick. Maybe it's a certificate of attendence, a special "badge" (sunday school pin), a flower, or... anything. But if you want people to show up for your party, FEED 'EM. :lol:
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Re: Gun freedom trumps religious freedom

Postby Moreno » Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:42 pm

felix dakat wrote:Gun freedom trumped religious freedom in Milwaukee
Sort of and only in the specific case. Gun ownership and a willingness to break the law and be killed trumped religious freedom for those people who were there that day. IOW it sounded like you were saying that gun freedom is more respected than religious freedom, given the laws. But the laws mete out the harshest penalties possible for that that gunman did.
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Re: Gun freedom trumps religious freedom

Postby James S Saint » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:57 pm

felix dakat wrote:Gun freedom trumped religious freedom in Milwaukee when a man armed with a semi-automatic handgun opened fire on worshipers inside a Sikh temple in suburban Wisconsin on Sunday morning, killing six and critically wounding at least three. How would you feel if those murdered were members of your religious community?

Actually it was a team of men sent out to cause a yet another false flag scene so that people could once again encourage others to make themselves defenseless against the new emperor.

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