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Re: If You're Listening To Music Right Now III

Postby promethean75 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:36 pm

European culture is a hell of a lot more than academia and the bourgeoise, it's the culture of the rural and working classes, and the interaction between them. Without them, academia and the bourgeoise would've had nothing to stand on, and ceased to be.


yeah i thought that went without saying, but a suggestion like that is dangerously marxist and in the wrong company here at 'i love philostophy'.

For me, ethnocentricity has intrinsic value.
I like my people and my culture, I don't like other people as much, I don't want to be surrounded by them.


for me, i'm less interested in what people are, and more interested in what they do, and why they do it. but this might sound alarming to anyone who still believes culture is bound by, and a product of, genetics. that theory has been thoroughly refuted, and i don't waste my time with refuted theories.
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Re: If You're Listening To Music Right Now III

Postby WendyDarling » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:43 pm

prom wrote
for me, i'm less interested in what people are, and more interested in what they do, and why they do it. but this might sound alarming to anyone who still believes culture is bound by, and a product of, genetics. that theory has been thoroughly refuted, and i don't waste my time with refuted theories.

They do it because of genetics which is obvious if you look at cultures made up of races that consistently thrive no matter where they are placed around the world. Don't need no stinking theory to recognize the obvious.

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For me, ethnocentricity has intrinsic value.
I like my people and my culture, I don't like other people as much, I don't want to be surrounded by them.

I agree wholeheartedly.
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Re: If You're Listening To Music Right Now III

Postby promethean75 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:39 pm

They do it because of genetics which is obvious if you look at cultures made up of races that consistently thrive no matter where they are placed around the world. Don't need no stinking theory to recognize the obvious.


i'm not sure what that means, but i gotta multiple choice question for ya. it's very easy so you'll do fine.

there is nothing unique in the genetic make-up of a tanisha jackson and a wang xiu ying that would exclude each from being active participants in each other's culture because:

a) acquired traits are not transmittable self-assembly codes like inherited traits.

b) acquired traits are lost at the death of the generation that had them, while inherited traits are encoded in genes and transmitted to offspring.

c) the horizontal transmission of ideas is algorithmically dissimilar to vertical transmission (reproduction) in genetic evolution.

d) what biologists call 'acquired change' is ubiquitous in culture due to the reconstructive manner in which ideas are encoded and interpreted in terms of existing conceptual structure, creatively adapting their bearers to their environments prior to cultural transmission and despite their genetic make-up.

e) all of the above
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Re: If You're Listening To Music Right Now III

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Re: If You're Listening To Music Right Now III

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Re: If You're Listening To Music Right Now III

Postby Gloominary » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:40 am

promethean75 wrote:alright man. i just checked out this 'dragon force' and i just can't do it. machine gun power chords in 4/4 fired off at blistering speeds is what i wanted when i was seventeen, but i can't tolerate it anymore. i respect the genre and the discipline it takes to master that style of music, but the content is too standard and predictable for my tastes.

i would however object to your claim that this stuff 'requires much more skill to play' than what animals as leaders writes. i think you are assuming that because dragon force is playing at incredible speeds, the music is therefore more difficult. tempo is much less of a difficulty than meter and time signature. it's the latter that challenges concentration and focus more than anything else. most of these head banging metal bands would be lost in a matter of seconds if they had to play a layered polyrhythm. some of the stuff meshuggah writes, for instance, would short-circuit these guy's brains. although meshuggah's singer is also a growler, i'm loath to admit.

Bands like Dalriada and Dragonforce may be cheesy, but at least they're catchy and got hART, soul and testicles, whereas bands like Animals As Leaders and Meshuggah are meandering and bloodless.
I'm all for experimentation, whether it's blending different instruments and (sub)genres together, or time signatures, etcetera, but not while forgetting everything else that makes music great in the process.
Aimlessly wandering and schizotypal Animals, droning Meshuggah and 97% of prog and especially math metal out there sound like they were produced by an artificial intelligence or soulless alien attempting to mimic and improve upon what we humans refer to as music and hopelessly failing miserably.
Too much math, not enough meaning.
They sound just like what the dehumanized, totalitarian monstrosity the NWO is trying to socially construct would sound like if it could be put to music.
Of the two tho I have to say, I like Animals better, because at least there's lots of stuff happening, even if that stuff has ADD and note salad; not bad, but Meshuggah has got to be one of my all time least favorite metal bands; total shit; horrendously overrated.

As for musical virtuosity, from what I've heard and to my admittedly untrained ear, while Animals may have more variation in time signatures, etcetera, note for note Dragonforce seems to have more variation in the notes they play and the speed at which they play them.
That being said, Animals couldn't write a catchy tune to save their lives.
I don't think playing your instruments in unusual time signatures and so on prevents you from writing a catchy tune, it's just they haven't figured out how to do it.
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Re: If You're Listening To Music Right Now III

Postby Gloominary » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:40 am

Shouldn't be hard, different genes produce different traits, and different traits make it easier/harder to absorb different memes.
If you have say, more naturally competitive individuals within a race for instance, it's going to be harder for a culture that values (competitive) collaboration to socialize them into being collaborative.
And if you have more naturally competitive individuals within a race, they're less likely to produce a culture that values collaboration, altho they may still produce one, if it's in the interests of their survival or another one of their values to, and they have enough intellect to see that and enough freewill/willpower to overcome their biological hardwiring, but it's going to be more of an uphill battle than it otherwise would be, if they were less naturally competitive.

Of course the races differ in how many competitive (or insert any trait here) individuals they have, the only question is by how many.
And of course competitive is relative, if a race is more competitive than another, it may be because a few individuals are a lot more comparatively competitive, or it may be because almost all individuals are a little or a lot more comparatively competitive.

Now we may find some outliers, some collaborative individuals in a competitive race, but that doesn't mean those individuals are just like our race, because we're dealing with thousands-millions of traits here.
While there may be a few exceptions, whites share more neuropsychological traits with each other than with other races.
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Re: If You're Listening To Music Right Now III

Postby Mr Reasonable » Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:12 am

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Re: If You're Listening To Music Right Now III

Postby promethean75 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:45 pm

:music-rockout:

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Re: If You're Listening To Music Right Now III

Postby promethean75 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:24 pm

... but as the immigrant european imperialist aggression wiped out the native americans and laid claim to a land these new tyrannical hypocrites would ruthlessly defend centuries later from all other immigrants (who aren't carrying muskets and come in peace) attempting to come to uhmerica, they had their own tyrants to contend with, first...

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Re: If You're Listening To Music Right Now III

Postby Gloominary » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:14 am

That was 100s of years ago.

Quit living in the past, man, stay progressive.

We shouldn't let what happened in the past limit what we can do to improve our country today.

Are you a pragmatic consequentialist or hopeless sentimentalist?
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Re: If You're Listening To Music Right Now III

Postby promethean75 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:41 am

I'm nothing if not an ironist, first. There's just too much irony in the world to not do anything with it.
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Re: If You're Listening To Music Right Now III

Postby Exuberant Teleportation » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:23 am

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Re: If You're Listening To Music Right Now III

Postby MagsJ » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:08 am

Urwrongx1000 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JwoLrNPMnQ

Cool tune..

The intro.. like the track finding its beat/its self, coming to life.. in musical terms.
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Re: If You're Listening To Music Right Now III

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Re: If You're Listening To Music Right Now III

Postby Exuberant Teleportation » Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:44 am

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Re: If You're Listening To Music Right Now III

Postby Arcturus Descending » Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:56 pm

The Lion King 2 He Lives in You (Instrumental)

https://youtu.be/DKg08_5VoQI

No words needed. The music is awesome. This music compels me to want to run out into the rain and dance. lol Gorgeous.
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Re: If You're Listening To Music Right Now III

Postby Arcturus Descending » Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:56 pm

The Lion King 2 He Lives in You (Instrumental)

https://youtu.be/DKg08_5VoQI

No words needed. The music is awesome. This music compels me to want to run out into the rain and dance. lol Gorgeous.
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“Whereas the beautiful is limited, the sublime is limitless, so that the mind in the presence of the sublime, attempting to imagine what it cannot, has pain in the failure but pleasure in contemplating the immensity of the attempt.”

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