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Re: philosophy in song

Postby Ben JS » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:48 am

"To fear love is to fear life, and those who fear life are already three parts dead." - Your man, Russell.

What we're dealing with are Zombies. Men three parts dead.

"There is always some madness in love. But there is also always some reason in madness." - Nietzsche

Love can revive all.
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Re: philosophy in song

Postby iambiguous » Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:27 pm

Only_Humean wrote:iam - I like a lot of the songs you're sharing, but this is a discussion forum. If there's some philosophy in the lyrics that you want to discuss, please do so.

If you're just throwing it out there and leaving it to others, I'll move this to MB. Same for the Film thread.


Okay, by me.
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Re: philosophy in song

Postby iambiguous » Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:43 pm

d63 wrote:Sorry about taking over your string, Ambig.


Okay by me.

Well, not really. [-X
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Re: philosophy in song

Postby iambiguous » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:51 pm

DECADES
Joy Division

Here are the young men, the weight on their shoulders,
Here are the young men, well where have they been?
We knocked on the doors of hell's darker chamber,
Pushed to the limit, we dragged ourselves in,
Watched from the wings as the scenes were replaying,
We saw ourselves now as we never had seen.
Portrayal of the trauma and degeneration,
The sorrows we suffered and never were free.

Where have they been?
Where have they been?
Where have they been?
Where have they been?

Weary inside, now our heart's lost forever,
Can't replace the fear, or the thrill of the chase,
Each ritual showed up the door for our wanderings,
Open then shut, then slammed in our face.

Where have they been?
Where have they been?
Where have they been?
Where have they been?


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Re: philosophy in song

Postby Ben JS » Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:12 pm

BROTHER
Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros

Somewhere over the earth
A song, a song
Somewhere I have heard
My brother is gone
Away, under the moon
Brother, brother
Away, gone so soon
Please singin' his tune
Still singin' his tune

And away he gone day
And away he gone night
And away he gone dark
And away he gone light
Up and away he gone away
But in a way he gonna stay
Oh brother of mine
We'll be singing some day
Oh we'll be singing someday
Eh, we'll be singing someday
Eh, we'll be singing someday
Undead audio, yes we'll be singing someday

Some say I am to blame
Brother, brother
Some days I feel the same
And feelin' that shame
Away under the moon
Brother, brother
Away gone so soon
Please singing this tune
Still singing this tune

And away he gone dark
And away he gone light
And away he gone day
And away he gone night
Up and away he gone away
But in a way he gonna stay
Oh brother of mine
We'll be singing someday
Eh, we'll be singing someday
Eh, we'll be singing someday
Oh brother of mine
We'll singing someday
Undead audio, yes we'll be singing today
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Re: philosophy in song

Postby Ben JS » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:27 pm

Music...

A true reflection of the heart. There is deep comfort in listening to the heart. Deep inspiration. Deep solace. Deep love. Deep pain.

One can live through music. But, there is more to life than just listening to the heart. There is action in accordance with the heart.

Let me repeat an insightful post I just read.

Moreno wrote:The search, at least for some, is not to find an it, but to change one's relation to 'things', generally all of them. It's not like looking for a key that may or may not exist in the bushes outside the house. Even like looking for an invisible key. The 'search' involves a human changing, the changing is the search. And the 'it' is not primarily information, but changed relations, so that things are better and feel better. Humans, many of them, tend to believe in things and only things - rather than, say, processes - so they reify everything. So, in your formulation, they want 'reach the truth' as if the truth was a thing. YOu could transfer your argument to psychology/psychotherapy, and while some people certainly blab for years to a paid listener, seeking 'the truth' about themselves, some people engage at a deeper level then information seeking, using insight about processes/relations and direct confrontation/collaboration with another human to explore other processes/relation types and this actually leads to what they themselves experience as a better existence. Sure, there are moments of insight - which could be called reaching little truths or big ones - but it is the process of change that is the success. I think there is a good chance everyone here knows someone who can say what their emotional and mental problems are, but somehow this knowledge, even if correct, hasn't stopped them from projecting their fathers onto bosses or falling in love with scumbags or whatever. These kinds of seeking processes, when they work and are engaged in, function at a different and deeper level. And they are not, as you yourself pointed out, so mental. They are not irrational, but key parts are non-rational.
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Re: philosophy in song

Postby iambiguous » Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:03 pm

MEAT IS MURDER
The Smiths

Heifer whines could be human cries
Closer comes the screaming knife
This beautiful creature must die
This beautiful creature must die
A death for no reason
And death for no reason is MURDER

And the flesh you so fancifully fry
Is not succulent, tasty or kind
It's death for no reason
And death for no reason is MURDER

And the calf that you carve with a smile
It is MURDER
And the turkey you festively slice
It is MURDER
Do you know how animals die?

Kitchen aromas aren't very homely
It's not "comforting", cheery or kind
It's sizzling blood and the unholy stench
Of MURDER

It's not "natural", "normal" or kind
The flesh you so fancifully fry
The meat in your mouth
As you savour the flavour
Of MURDER

NO, NO, NO, IT'S MURDER
NO, NO, NO, IT'S MURDER
Oh ... and who cares about an animals life?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xacRTqk5QFM
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Re: philosophy in song

Postby iambiguous » Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:08 pm

ZOMBIE
The Cranberries

Another head hangs lowly,
Child is slowly taken.
And the violence caused such silence,
Who are we mistaken?

But you see, it's not me, it's not my family.
In your head, in your head they are fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are crying...

In your head, in your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie,
Hey, hey, hey. What's in your head,
In your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie?
Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, dou, dou, dou, dou, dou...

Another mother's breakin',
Heart is taking over.
When the vi'lence causes silence,
We must be mistaken.

It's the same old theme since nineteen-sixteen.
In your head, in your head they're still fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are dying...

In your head, in your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie,
Hey, hey, hey. What's in your head,
In your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie?
Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, oh, oh,
Oh, oh, oh, oh, hey, oh, ya, ya-a...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcwsfns7KPQ&t=5s
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Re: philosophy in song

Postby Ben JS » Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:37 am

Haha. Very apt songs, considering the content of the thread hijacking. Both equally heart wrenching.

To laugh or cry? That is the question.
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Re: philosophy in song

Postby iambiguous » Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:36 pm

HYPNOTIZED
Fleetwood Mac

It's the same kind of story
That seems to come down from long ago
Two friends having coffee together
When something flies by their window
It might be out on that lawn
Which is wide, at least half of a playing field
Because there's no explaining what your imagination
Can make you see and feel

Seems like a dream
(They) got me hypnotized

Now it's not a meaningless question
To ask if they've been and gone
I remember a talk about North
Carolina and a strange, strange pond
You see the sides were like glass
In the thick of a forest without a road
And if any man's hand ever made that land
Then I think it would've showed

Seems like a dream
(They) got me hypnotized

They say there's a place down in Mexico
Where a man can fly over mountains and hills
And he don't need an airplane or some kind of engine
And he never will
Now you know it's a meaningless question
To ask if those stories are right
'Cause what matters most is the feeling
You get when you're hypnotized

Seems like a dream
(They) got me hypnotized


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZeTlMpnfHk
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Re: philosophy in song

Postby iambiguous » Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:07 am

MEET ON THE LEDGE
Fairport Convention

We used to say
That come the day
We'd all be making songs
Or finding better words
These ideas never lasted long

The way is up
Along the road
The air is growing thin
Too many friends who tried
Were blown off this mountain with the wind

Meet on the ledge
We're gonna meet on the ledge
When my time is up I'm gonna see all my friends
Meet on the ledge
We're gonna meet on the ledge
If you really mean it, it all comes round again

Yet now I see
I'm all alone
But that's the only way to be
You'll have your chance again
Then you can do the work for me

Meet on the ledge
We're gonna meet on the ledge
When my time is up I'm gonna see all my friends
Meet on the ledge
We're gonna meet on the ledge
If you really mean it, it all comes round again

Meet on the ledge
We're gonna meet on the ledge
When my time is up I'm gonna see all my friends
Meet on the ledge
We're gonna meet on the ledge
If you really mean it, it all comes round again


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avX5VlU7MXM
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Re: philosophy in song

Postby iambiguous » Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:15 am

After "Meet On the Ledge" I always listen to this:

DUST
Fleetwood Mac

When the white flame in us is gone
And we that lost the world's delight
Stiffen in darkness.
Left alone
To crumble in our separate night
When your swift hair is quiet in death
And through the lips corruption thrust to still the labor of my breath

When we are dust, when we are dust
When we are dust, when we are dust

When your swift hair is quiet in death
And through the lips corruption thrust to still the labor of my breath

When we are dust, when we are dust
When we are dust, when we are dust

When the white flame in us is gone
And we that lost the world's delight
Stiffen in darkness
Left alone
To crumble in our separate night
When your swift hair is quiet in death
And through the lips corruption thrust to still the labor of my breath

When we are dust, when we are dust
When we are dust, when we are dust


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2ncrkgeM0g
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Re: philosophy in song

Postby iambiguous » Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:13 pm

And, for some reason, this song brings out the same sort of reaction to death:

BREAK
Aphrodites Child

Bye bye, my friend, goodbye.
With a lie
you forget and break it.

You make it
you make it
you make it
you make it.

Cry in my empty room,
and we try
to forget and break it.

Fly
high
and then
you make it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WTNFuF6qiA
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Re: philosophy in song

Postby iambiguous » Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:35 am

BEAUTIFUL CHILD
Fleetwood Mac

Beautiful child
Beautiful child
You are a beautiful child
And I am a fool once more

You fell in love when I was only ten
The years disappeared
Much has gone by since then
I bite my lip, can you send me away
You touch
I have no choice
I have to stay
I had to stay

Sleepless child
There is so little time
Your eyes say yes
But you don't say yes
I wish that you were mine

You say it will be harder in the morning
I wait for you to say, just go
Your hands, held mine so few hours
And I'm not a child anymore

I'm not a child anymore
I'm tall enough
To reach for the stars
I'm old enough
To love you from afar
Too trusting... yes?
But then women usually are

I'm not a child anymore
No, I'm not a child, oh no
Tall enough to reach for the stars
I will do
As I'm told
Even if I never hold you again
I never hold you again


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDTTI2UVcMQ
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Re: philosophy in song

Postby iambiguous » Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:43 am

I'M SO AFRAID
Fleetwood Mac

I been alone
All the years
So many ways to count the tears
I never change
I never will
I'm so afraid the way I feel

Days when the rain and the sun are gone
Black as night
Agony's torn at my heart too long
So afraid
Slip and I fall and I die

I been alone
Always down
No one cared to stay around
I never change
I never will
I'm so afraid the way I feel

Days when the rain and the sun are gone
Black as night
Agony's torn at my heart too long
So afraid
Slip and I fall and I die


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OrtLxsqSic
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Re: philosophy in song

Postby iambiguous » Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:39 pm

This song always evokes a sense of resignation: no more going over the edge in a relationship.

I WON'T HURT YOU
The West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band

I've lost all my pride
I've been to paradise
And out the other side
With no one to guide me
Torn apart by a fiery will inside

I won't hurt you
I won't hurt you
I won't hurt you
I won't hurt you

I'm an untouched diamond
That's golden and brilliant without illumination
Your mouth's a constellation
Stars are in your eyes
I'll take a spaceship
And try and go and find you

I won't hurt you
I won't hurt you
I won't hurt you
I won't hurt you

My pale blue star
My rainbow, how good it is
to know you're like me
Strike me with your lightening
Bring me down and bury me with ashes

I won't hurt you
I won't hurt you
I won't hurt you
I won't hurt you


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qju3FEcKTrw
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Re: philosophy in song

Postby iambiguous » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:07 pm

This song always evokes in me some semblance of understanding that "religious sensibility" I once had.

AEGEAN SEA
Aphrodites Child

I saw the souls
I saw the martyrs
I heard them crying
I heard them shouting
They were dressed in white
they've been told to wait

The sun was black
the moon was red
the stars were falling
the earth has trembling
And then a crowd impossible to number
Dressed in white
carrying palms shouted amid
the hotless sun
the lightless moon
the windless earth
the colourless sky ...

They'll no more suffer from hunger
they'll no more suffer from thirst

They'll no more suffer from hunger
they'll no more suffer from thirst

They'll no more suffer from hunger
they'll no more suffer from thirst


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFChrJpCYrA
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Re: philosophy in song

Postby iambiguous » Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:53 pm

HOTEL HELL
Eric Burden and the Animals

The neon sign flashes,
Leaves its mark against the wall
The TV is silent
And will stay that way until dawn
The sheets are so cold,
The telephone is dumb
And I'm so very far from my home

In the dark I hear a siren
It screams across the night
Someone else is in trouble
I am not the only one
The cigarette glows,
I'm all alone
And I'm so very far from my home

I would leave here tomorrow
But I know I've got to stay
If only you were here with me
I'm holding on to every memory, memory
Memory, memory, memory, memory…

It is four o'clock in the morning,
The sun begins to rise
Another day I have to face,
Baby, I'm so dissatisfied
Breakfast is served
The morning news is heard
And I'm so very far from my home
Yes, I'm so very far from my home
Yes, I'm so very far from my home
So very…
Well, I'm so very far, far away from home
So very…


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2RmuW2LmHU
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Re: philosophy in song

Postby iambiguous » Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:15 pm

Here, I suspect, everyone wants to be Mary.

DEAR MARY
Steve Miller Band

Dear mary
Thank you for the day
We shared together

Had there been another day
Another way to tell you I need you, I need you
Had there been another day

Dear mary
Thank you for the day
We shared together

Deep in my heart I am waiting
I’m waiting for you
Deep in my heart I am waiting
What else can I do
Waiting, waiting for you


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEPy_fe91yw
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Re: philosophy in song

Postby cuntagious » Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:38 pm

"Too Much of Nothing" - Bob Dylan

Too much of nothing Can make a man ill at ease
One man's temper might rise While another man's temper might freeze
In the day of confession We cannot mock a soul
Oh, when there's too much of nothing No one has control

Say hello to Valerie
Say hello to Vivian
Give them all my salary
On the waters of oblivion

When there's too much of nothing It can cause a man to weep
He can walk the streets and boast like
Of what he'd like to keep
But it's all been done before It's all been written in the book
And where there's too much of nothing
Nobody should look

Say hello to Valerie Say hello to Vivian
Give them all my salary
On the waters of oblivion
And too much of nothing can make a man a liar
It can cause one man to sleep on nails
It can cause others to eat fire
Everybody's doin' somethin' I heard it in a dream
But when there's too much of nothing It just makes a fella mean

Say hello to Valerie
Say hello to Vivian
Give them all my salary
On the waters of oblivion
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Re: philosophy in song

Postby iambiguous » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:47 am

This song almost always works as an antidote for the blues...

ONE SUMMER DREAM [less the intro]
ELO

Deep waters flow, out to the sea,
They never needed you or me.
One Summer Dream, One Summer dream.

Blue Mountains high and valley low,
I don't know which way I should go,
One Summer Dream, One Summer dream.

Warm summer breeze blows endlessly,
Touching the hearts of those who feel,
One Summer Dream, One Summer dream.

Bird on wing goes floating by,
But there's a teardrop in his eye,
One Summer Dream, One Summer dream.
One Summer Dream, One Summer dream.

Deep waters flow out to the sea
One summer breeze blows endlessly
One summer dream One summer dream
One summer dream One summer dream


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbWBKcrMXL4&t=1m
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Re: philosophy in song

Postby iambiguous » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:55 am

cuntagious wrote:"Too Much of Nothing" - Bob Dylan

Too much of nothing Can make a man ill at ease
One man's temper might rise While another man's temper might freeze
In the day of confession We cannot mock a soul
Oh, when there's too much of nothing No one has control

Say hello to Valerie
Say hello to Vivian
Give them all my salary
On the waters of oblivion

When there's too much of nothing It can cause a man to weep
He can walk the streets and boast like
Of what he'd like to keep
But it's all been done before It's all been written in the book
And where there's too much of nothing
Nobody should look

Say hello to Valerie Say hello to Vivian
Give them all my salary
On the waters of oblivion
And too much of nothing can make a man a liar
It can cause one man to sleep on nails
It can cause others to eat fire
Everybody's doin' somethin' I heard it in a dream
But when there's too much of nothing It just makes a fella mean

Say hello to Valerie
Say hello to Vivian
Give them all my salary
On the waters of oblivion


I've always particularly liked PPM's [truncated?] rendition:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AQckXCVlbY
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=176529
Then here: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=185296
And here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=194382
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Re: philosophy in song

Postby d63 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:41 am

Joe Schmoe wrote:"To fear love is to fear life, and those who fear life are already three parts dead." - Your man, Russell.

What we're dealing with are Zombies. Men three parts dead.

"There is always some madness in love. But there is also always some reason in madness." - Nietzsche

Love can revive all.


To quote Deluez from an interview:

Friendship is a matter of knowing the other's madness. Unless you know their madness, they cannot be your friend.

I see that even in my real world friendships. This is especially clear to me from the one friend I tend to actually hang out with on a regular monthly basis. Unlike me, he's an ex-catholic with a bachelors degree with the very temperance you would expect you'd expect from such a person. But I've seen his madness. Hell, I think the reason he sticks by me is that I tend to draw it out of him. And I'm quite certain he has seen mine.
Humble yourself or the world will do it for you -it was either Russell or Whitehead. I can't remember which.

When I was young, I use to think the world was a messed up place so i was pissed off a lot. But now that I'm older, I know it is. So I just don't worry about it. -John Lydon (AKA Johnny Rotten).

Anarchy through Capitalism -on a flyer thrown out during a Kottonmouth Kings concert.

First we read, then we write. -Emerson.

All poets are damned. But they are not blind. They see with the eyes of angels. -William Carlos Williams: in the introduction to Ginsberg's Howl.

You gotta love that moment when the work is done and all that is left to do is drink your beer and sip your jager and enjoy what you've done. It's why I do and love it.

I refuse to be taken seriously.

Once again: take care of your process and others will take care of theirs. No one needs a guru. Just someone to jam with.

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Re: philosophy in song

Postby d63 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:50 am

I think one of the most philosophical songs lately has been Crystal Method's "The American Way" in which they play this hard-core, primal electronica while repeating:

Is the American Way

It seems to me to represent the Neitzscheian/Shopenhauerian Will to Power that tends to dominate american culture and it's phallic obsession with expressions of power rooted in its fixation on producer/consumer Capitalism.

There's an irony in it in that it seems to be celebrating this tendency while holding a critical distance to it.

Fatboy Slim does something similar in "The Weekend Starts Here".
Humble yourself or the world will do it for you -it was either Russell or Whitehead. I can't remember which.

When I was young, I use to think the world was a messed up place so i was pissed off a lot. But now that I'm older, I know it is. So I just don't worry about it. -John Lydon (AKA Johnny Rotten).

Anarchy through Capitalism -on a flyer thrown out during a Kottonmouth Kings concert.

First we read, then we write. -Emerson.

All poets are damned. But they are not blind. They see with the eyes of angels. -William Carlos Williams: in the introduction to Ginsberg's Howl.

You gotta love that moment when the work is done and all that is left to do is drink your beer and sip your jager and enjoy what you've done. It's why I do and love it.

I refuse to be taken seriously.

Once again: take care of your process and others will take care of theirs. No one needs a guru. Just someone to jam with.

:me
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Re: philosophy in song

Postby d63 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:55 am

But then this irony has been inherent to electronica from the start in that it must embrace technology and economic system that created it while being equally critical of that system.

As either Robert Plant or Bono pointed out, it is, ultimately, conflict that produces great music. Punk attempted to outrun this conflict only, in the long run, to find itself succumbing to same thing.
Humble yourself or the world will do it for you -it was either Russell or Whitehead. I can't remember which.

When I was young, I use to think the world was a messed up place so i was pissed off a lot. But now that I'm older, I know it is. So I just don't worry about it. -John Lydon (AKA Johnny Rotten).

Anarchy through Capitalism -on a flyer thrown out during a Kottonmouth Kings concert.

First we read, then we write. -Emerson.

All poets are damned. But they are not blind. They see with the eyes of angels. -William Carlos Williams: in the introduction to Ginsberg's Howl.

You gotta love that moment when the work is done and all that is left to do is drink your beer and sip your jager and enjoy what you've done. It's why I do and love it.

I refuse to be taken seriously.

Once again: take care of your process and others will take care of theirs. No one needs a guru. Just someone to jam with.

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